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zugfuhrer
05-07-2007, 12:37 PM
Aircrafts got many different solutions to technical challenges depending of their grade of technical advantage automatic supercharger, fuel-mix, pitch, flaps gears etc etc.

If this gadgets worked fine the pilot didnt have to think about it otherwhise it only stressed the pilot.

Other a/c perhaps got manual operated gadgets so the pilot made errors and forget to handle them in the heat of the battle.

I am not an expert on any a/c so I as those of you that are, Is the technical advantages accentuated enough in this game.
Pls give some examples of a/c that got highly automated flight controls

Kurfurst__
05-07-2007, 01:02 PM
Basically that's a great weakness of the flight engine.

IRL most aircraft required seperate handling of the mixture, RPM and MAP, and there was also a proper way and combination using these throttles. Ie. using too low RPM while using maximum MAP could damage the engine. Only a few aircraft had single lever, fully automatic controls (Bf 109 and FW 190 series for example), though many had seperate levers working semi-automatically.

In the sim however, the seperate, multi lever systems in which the pilot had to seperately set rpm, manifold pressure and fuel mixture, supercharger stage for the (multiple!) engine(s) is treated exactly the same as single lever automatic systems, therefore there's no historical advantage enjoyed by planes in which the pilot simply set the engine regime (ie. max power, continous power), and the automatics took care of the rest, isn't felt or displayed. IRL combat, this was distinctly felt when going from cruise settings to full power if jumped upon, as in one plane it was a somewhat complicated and lenghty process and on the other it was a simply a task of pushing the throttle fully forward. Neither it is possible to overboost or underboost the engine, again, no concern on fully automatic systems.

stalkervision
05-07-2007, 01:20 PM
Originally posted by Kurfurst__:
Basically that's a great weakness of the flight engine.

IRL most aircraft required seperate handling of the mixture, RPM and MAP, and there was also a proper way and combination using these throttles. Ie. using too low RPM while using maximum MAP could damage the engine. Only a few aircraft had single lever, fully automatic controls (Bf 109 and FW 190 series for example), though many had seperate levers working semi-automatically.

In the sim however, the seperate, multi lever systems in which the pilot had to seperately set rpm, manifold pressure and fuel mixture, supercharger stage for the (multiple!) engine(s) is treated exactly the same as single lever automatic systems, therefore there's no historical advantage enjoyed by planes in which the pilot simply set the engine regime (ie. max power, continous power), and the automatics took care of the rest, isn't felt or displayed. IRL combat, this was distinctly felt when going from cruise settings to full power if jumped upon, as in one plane it was a somewhat complicated and lenghty process and on the other it was a simply a task of pushing the throttle fully forward. Neither it is possible to overboost or underboost the engine, again, no concern on fully automatic systems.


I believe the only aircraft that could do this with a single lever in ww2 was the fw-190..

R_Target
05-07-2007, 02:24 PM
Hopefully BoB's CEM will be a little more involved, and things like the Kommando on the 190 will really shine.