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LeadSpitter_
11-19-2005, 02:10 AM
made you click now blues take this advice from a ace. Complain in forums not on TS.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/leadspitter/galland.gif

Von_Rat
11-19-2005, 02:37 AM
as soon as a ace comes in i'll pay attention.

god knows red never complains on ts.

bolillo_loco
11-19-2005, 03:27 AM
Are you sure about that statement Leadspitter? I think that in war clouds half of it is the plane, when I use blue planes I get a lot more kills than when I use red planes. I mean kills to, not matter how you slice or dice it, proper kills; this includes but is not limited to; kills per sortie, kills per hour, total kills, one shot wonder weapon kills, kill to death ratio.

WOLFMondo
11-19-2005, 03:56 AM
Originally posted by Von_Rat:
as soon as a ace comes in i'll pay attention.

god knows red never complains on ts.

haha! Christ, I've never heard complaining on the red channels. God forbid. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Bremspropeller
11-19-2005, 04:38 AM
Gee, I thought RBJ looked way different.

Badsight.
11-19-2005, 04:56 AM
Originally posted by Von_Rat:
god knows red never complains on ts. the difference is that leadspitter agrees with those ones

NorrisMcWhirter
11-19-2005, 05:56 AM
Hmm. That's ironc! I remember the first few times I went into WC and was amused to see the chat buffer filled with LS' continual whining.

An analogy to it would be to say that it was like having an Allegro gearbox, with no oil in it, strapped to the side of your head whilst been externally driven, in first gear, at 6000rpm.

I do a fair bit of whining myself from time to time (nah, really?) but at least I don't try to hide the fact that I do http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Ta,
Norris

Feathered_IV
11-19-2005, 06:07 AM
Hmm. That's ironc! I remember the first few times I went into WC and was amused to see the chat buffer filled with LS' continual whining.

Leadspitter flies? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

I've only ever seen him on HL chat, usually talking about cars. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Chuck_Older
11-19-2005, 06:45 AM
Galland's lip is kind of scary

BTW Lead, I don't play online, and even I knew there was nobody called 'fish'. Too obvious, you used to be subtle http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

LEBillfish
11-19-2005, 06:48 AM
Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
Galland's lip is kind of scary:

Would you rather be looking at the lips or the "Island Oleg Pecs?"

Von_Rat
11-19-2005, 06:52 AM
Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
Galland's lip is kind of scary

BTW Lead, I don't play online, and even I knew there was nobody called 'fish'. Too obvious, you used to be subtle http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

oh my god theres no pilot called fish, then all those reds on warclouds have been shot down by a figment of leadspitters imagination......

oh the humanity...

Chuck_Older
11-19-2005, 08:40 AM
Originally posted by LEBillfish:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
Galland's lip is kind of scary:

Would you rather be looking at the lips or the "Island Oleg Pecs?" </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Um...the second one... if it turns out Jenny's nickname is "Island Oleg Pecs"
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/Chuck_Older/connelly-jennifer-photo-jennifer-co.jpg

LEBillfish
11-19-2005, 09:19 AM
Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
Um...the second one... if it turns out Jenny's nickname is "Island Oleg Pecs"

You can call him Jenny but he would tell you "you is wrong"....Mr. Island Oleg to you! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v707/Kaytoo/IL2/Oleg.gif

hypnotizing aren't they.....*swoon*

p1ngu666
11-19-2005, 09:53 AM
Originally posted by LeadSpitter_:
made you click now blues take this advice from a ace. Complain in forums not on TS.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/leadspitter/galland.gif

i never thought that anything could best the mustache, but i was wrong http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

faustnik
11-19-2005, 10:24 AM
Originally posted by bolillo_loco:
Are you sure about that statement Leadspitter? I think that in war clouds half of it is the plane, when I use blue planes I get a lot more kills than when I use red planes. I mean kills to, not matter how you slice or dice it, proper kills; this includes but is not limited to; kills per sortie, kills per hour, total kills, one shot wonder weapon kills, kill to death ratio.

What blue planes are so much better than the red side aircraft? In the late war servers, red side has some great choices like the P-47 D (Late), Mustang III, P-38 L Late, P-63 and Spit IX.

Grey_Mouser67
11-19-2005, 11:42 AM
Originally posted by faustnik:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by bolillo_loco:
Are you sure about that statement Leadspitter? I think that in war clouds half of it is the plane, when I use blue planes I get a lot more kills than when I use red planes. I mean kills to, not matter how you slice or dice it, proper kills; this includes but is not limited to; kills per sortie, kills per hour, total kills, one shot wonder weapon kills, kill to death ratio.

What blue planes are so much better than the red side aircraft? In the late war servers, red side has some great choices like the P-47 D (Late), Mustang III, P-38 L Late, P-63 and Spit IX. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Given how planes are currently modelled, not real life, the Bf109K, G-10, Dora and A-9 are all better than the planes above....maybe the G6A/S too given the tactical situation.

In real life, there'd be Tempests, Spit Mk XIV's, and the US planes would be tougher, better fire power, more stable and handle better...there would also be a distinct advantage in visability which doesn't translate into this game.

All Oleg would have to do is toughen the DM of some planes, give the lightning it historic climb rates and elevator authority, DeSyncronize the HMG's, dampen the pitch/yaw and oscillations of Allied aircraft to create a more stable gun platform, tone down the stall's on the Stang, increase the Dive performance of heavy aircraft and take away some of the 109's dive performance...throw in some late war Allied aircraft and I think we'd hear a whole different song being sung on this forum.

None of the things I listed above, by themselves, create the outcome...but look at them all together and whew....no wonder there are gameplay issues.

BaldieJr
11-19-2005, 11:44 AM
Warclouds is so poor they don't have forums?

jds1978
11-19-2005, 12:50 PM
i wonder if A. Galland is chewing Juicy Fruit or Wrigley's Spearmint?

p1ngu666
11-19-2005, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by faustnik:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by bolillo_loco:
Are you sure about that statement Leadspitter? I think that in war clouds half of it is the plane, when I use blue planes I get a lot more kills than when I use red planes. I mean kills to, not matter how you slice or dice it, proper kills; this includes but is not limited to; kills per sortie, kills per hour, total kills, one shot wonder weapon kills, kill to death ratio.

What blue planes are so much better than the red side aircraft? In the late war servers, red side has some great choices like the P-47 D (Late), Mustang III, P-38 L Late, P-63 and Spit IX. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

stang can hit and run, p38 now handles well, p47 is decent, the IX has deffinatly lost its zing. p51 is like a murderous housewife...

its harder to fly red, if u avoid the few russian uber planes (la7 and 5?) and maybe yak3

danjama
11-19-2005, 02:39 PM
Fish exists, Be sure...

Leadspitter even flies! Regularly in fact. What a guy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

faustnik
11-19-2005, 02:52 PM
Originally posted by Grey_Mouser67:

All Oleg would have to do is toughen the DM of some planes, give the lightning it historic climb rates and elevator authority, DeSyncronize the HMG's, dampen the pitch/yaw and oscillations of Allied aircraft to create a more stable gun platform, tone down the stall's on the Stang, increase the Dive performance of heavy aircraft and take away some of the 109's dive performance...

One some of those I can agree, some I don't. LW a/c, like the Fw190As have many things people could complain about too. Even many Bf109 guys are complaining now too. I think it is always a case of "the other guy has the easy planes", it has been since IL-2 1.0.

faustnik
11-19-2005, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by p1ngu666:
the IX has deffinatly lost its zing.

I still don't see that P1ng. The Spit IX and VIII are great dogfighters.

Anyway, hopefully the RAF guys will have more options soon. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

p1ngu666
11-19-2005, 03:15 PM
seem sluggish, less climby and horribly unstable to me http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

btw, 109 drivers have always moaned? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif