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Kaleun1961
09-18-2005, 09:42 AM
Over the many careers I have played, I very seldom get killed. I usually live to retirement age, as I play with the realistic career length of SH3 Commander enabled. Once or twice, to my recollection it was while in a IIA, IID, or VIIB or C.

But, I seem to have some kind of curse or jinx whereby I have always been killed on my first voyage with a IXB. I don't know what it is, maybe I get "buck fever" with all those torpedoes, but I somehow always manage to get killed with this type of sub.

Being the intrepid Kaleun that I am, I refuse to give up, now on the maiden voyage of a IXB for about the 5th or 6th time. I hope this time to break the string of bad luck with this type of boat.

I'll let you all know how it ends... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

U107Wolff
09-18-2005, 09:51 AM
Hmmm, that is weird. For some reason I have the opposite: I keep staying alive in the IXB. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

panthercules
09-18-2005, 10:39 AM
Well, I share your pain - in my first career, after 14 highly successful patrols in my original Type VIIB, I upgraded to a IXB and sailed off for the US in January '42 for Operation Drumbeat. Sank a couple of ships on the way across the Atlantic (forgot to read the fine print in Doenitz' Drumbeat orders about not attacking anything until arriving on station off the US) and then found and sank 2 small freighters off Boston. Finding the pickings slim there, I then headed to NY hoping to find some convoys. Instead, I ran into some old 4-stacker destroyer left over from WWI that was apparently carrying some beta-test uber radar and she spotted me at dead slow on a moonless night at 6800m and she and her friends DC'd me to death http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

I'm only on my 5th patrol in my new career, having just moved up to a VIIB last patrol from my original Type IIA, and it's only early 1940 now, so it looks like it will be a while before I get a chance to test the curse of the IXB again.

Goose_Green
09-18-2005, 10:58 AM
I seem to have better luck with the type IX boats.

It's interesting to point out that Donitz never liked the type IX's as he had always he preferred the type VII's. Before the war started he had always pushed Adm Raeder for more VII boats to suit his U-boat plans.

The type IX was too big a target for Allied sonar operators, too slow to dive and not very manoverable whilst submerged. You may argue that the increased torpedo loadout would be plus point, but with having to surface and transfer the torpedoes in favourable weather conditions Donitz never felt it was worth the hassle!

Anton_Reinhold
09-18-2005, 11:34 AM
I have always found the Type VII to be the best submarine, tactically speaking, when playing ANY of the WWII German U-Boat simulation games of the present or the past. The Type IX is just too big a target and too clumsy IF you get into a tight situation.
In my opinion, I do not see the point in having long range submarines for WWII Germany when the war was centered around neighboring European countries, well within the operational reaches of the Type VII. I say:"What until they come closer to England and then sink them!" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Chrystine
09-18-2005, 11:38 AM
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Glück, herr Kaleun!

May your decks know only the green of Laurel!


Gruß!
~ C.

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WilhelmSchulz.-
09-18-2005, 11:48 AM
AHHHHGGG!!! I hate it when you people call it opreation drumbeat. Its Opreation Durmroll. God.

paulhager
09-18-2005, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by Kaleun1961:
Over the many careers I have played, I very seldom get killed. I usually live to retirement age, as I play with the realistic career length of SH3 Commander enabled. Once or twice, to my recollection it was while in a IIA, IID, or VIIB or C.

But, I seem to have some kind of curse or jinx whereby I have always been killed on my first voyage with a IXB. I don't know what it is, maybe I get "buck fever" with all those torpedoes, but I somehow always manage to get killed with this type of sub.

Being the intrepid Kaleun that I am, I refuse to give up, now on the maiden voyage of a IXB for about the 5th or 6th time. I hope this time to break the string of bad luck with this type of boat.

I'll let you all know how it ends... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I made it through to a Type XXI twice, and got killed twice in Type XXI. Third time, I had only one mission in a Type XXI which was successful (I wrote it up and posted on this forum) and then retired. I got killed a bunch of types in Type VII's and Type II's but that was early. I've done pretty well in Type IX's.

If I have a patrol that takes me into shallow water - particularly after 1941 - I may not follow orders. Shallow water is where you get killed.

froschman
09-18-2005, 01:00 PM
Hi WilhelmSchulz,

Operation Drumroll?? The original name was operation Paulenschlag!!

froschman
09-18-2005, 01:02 PM
Hi again,

Excuse my misspelling, it should be Paukenschlag.

Pratchbeer
09-18-2005, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by froschman:
Hi again,

Excuse my misspelling, it should be Paukenschlag.

and in good english this is Drumbeat...

But let's keep it in german. Sounds better

DiveDevil
09-18-2005, 04:03 PM
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Posted Sun September 18 2005 10:48
AHHHHGGG!!! I hate it when you people call it opreation drumbeat. Its Opreation Durmroll. God.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif
Operation Drumbeat dude not Drumroll trust me.
say it with me Drumbeat.

lecek
09-18-2005, 04:13 PM
I have a book called operation drumbeat. Good book about that operation.

I am curious where you got the idea it was drumroll?

WilhelmSchulz.-
09-18-2005, 05:27 PM
2 books I read. Torpedo Junction, witch is all about it. And Grey Wolf Grey Sea.

bunkerratt
09-18-2005, 07:37 PM
actulay it's not a fair compairison ..they are two differnt types of boats ..ocean going and sea going ..also if you read or watch interviews on film..most of the capt's for type 7's were younger while the type9's had older capt's..the 7 was intended for engageing british maritime trafic ...anyway ..good hunting

Kaleun1961
09-18-2005, 09:02 PM
The curse is broken! I had a very successful patrol, bagging ten ships and then made it back to port. I must say I do like all those torpeoes, but it's very nerve-wracking sitting up top with the hatches open while the lads get those externals down inside. The bigger gun is nice, but not as many rounds. I did enjoy using the 37mm flak to shoot up some merchants.

Quixotic_990
09-19-2005, 12:42 AM
I love the IXB but I'm a bit nonplussed how I acquired it. After installing RUB 1.43 and SH3 Commander (realistic career length enabled)..I opted for a career to start roughly April 1940. Second Flotilla-Lorient. I didn't think the IXB would be available in 1940 and thought I'd be in a VIIB (my main desire was to avoid those lousy II's with five crummy torpedoes). Anyway, I launched the game using SH3 Commander and voila.. it's October (not April) 1940 and I'm the new captain of a IXB. Not sure how this happened as the game manual says the boat wasn't available for Second Flotilla until '41 and I didn't even put in for it. I think RUB or SH3 Commander altered boat availability for some flotillas so this might be it. At any rate, am now on third patrol and tangling with a Flower Corvette guarding a large convoy around BE 36. Will U-65 survive... sure!