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raaaid
02-12-2006, 08:09 AM
if so where?

or are they just too political incorrect(just like me) to be included?

id just wish i could sink those lagger ships by crashing on them

Ritter_Cuda
02-12-2006, 08:40 AM
bombs become useless when you die. i have skiped bombed a ship drop the bomb then get blowen up by the ships AAA and the bomb just hit the ship and did not detanate. so i think diveing into a ship with a full payload will not work. but you could make a missin and try
Cuda

Zeus-cat
02-12-2006, 09:21 AM
It is not politically incorrect, its just the game doesn't really support it. The Pacific planes were added a long time after the game was released and kamikaze missions were never meant to be in the game.

Anything that happens after you die is supposed to be ignored for scoring purposes. However, I have seen myself get credit for sinking a ship that I have intentionally crashed into.

Philipscdrw
02-12-2006, 10:08 AM
I think it's possible to give aircraft kamikaze missions in the Full Mission Builder. And if kamikaze isn't possible, why did 1C include the Okha kamikaze rocket bomb/plane?

james_ander
02-12-2006, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by Philipscdrw:
I think it's possible to give aircraft kamikaze missions in the Full Mission Builder. And if kamikaze isn't possible, why did 1C include the Okha kamikaze rocket bomb/plane?

Where do you find that plane? How do you use it?

Thanks

AFSG_Bulldog
02-12-2006, 11:45 AM
We have built Kamikaze co-op missions. They have, on a number of occassions, sunk our carrier. The Kamikaze planes were all AI. Maybe that is the secret to crash damage counting to damage in the game.

NonWonderDog
02-12-2006, 11:50 AM
Isn't there a kamikaze mission included in the game? For one of the zero models... maybe it came with UQMG.

You definitely get credit for anything you destroy by crashing into it... offline. Anything that happens after you die -- including any damage done by your plane -- doesn't count online. AI kamikazes work regardless.

There's a particular method for creating kamikaze attacks in the FMB, but I don't remember what it is. It's something to do with assigning fighters a seaborne attack target with no return waypoint.

Saunders1953
02-12-2006, 12:26 PM
I've built a slew of kamikzae missions for a potential missions pack to release. You can of course always crash a plane you are flying into anything you want to. I don't fly online, so I don't know whether you get points or not.

The Okha is the M7X whatever plane in the plane list. You can't fly it, but you can use the Russian BI-1 as a substitute. HH_Beebop just made me a bunch of Okha skins for it. I think he uploaded them at Flying Legends.

slo_one23
02-12-2006, 03:01 PM
now a kamikazze campaign ... i think i could actually finish that one i think it would be pretty short

Hoatee
02-12-2006, 03:44 PM
raaid - just don't do it in WWIIonline - you get banned for it. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

vocatx
02-12-2006, 05:32 PM
I'm thinking of making a campaign based on a Texas A&M University grad who got conscripted into the kamikaze corp. Should be about 40 missions long...

Saunders1953
02-12-2006, 05:45 PM
slo_one23, the way you do it is making up a bunch of different types of missions, different planes, targets, etc. And see how successful you can be dodging CAP, Flak, etc. and actually hitting anything. Some planes handle worse/less maneuverable than others, some take more damage, etc. You might be surpised how hard it is to do.

slo_one23
02-12-2006, 05:48 PM
done it before and you get knocked out a lot long b4 u get to the ship

SeaFireLIV
02-12-2006, 06:18 PM
PF has missions where you fly Kamikaze escort. I suppose if you really need to, you could join in on the fly. I don`t see much point unless after you hit the ship you get an ending movie showing you enter paradise or... er not, as the case may be....

Wild.Bill.Kelso
02-12-2006, 06:21 PM
Originally posted by slo_one23:
done it before and you get knocked out a lot long b4 u get to the ship I think in reality very few made it to the ship.

Also, there is a kamakazi track in my tracks folder. I'm not sure if I downloaded it, or it was from PF.

Saunders1953
02-12-2006, 08:15 PM
Therein lies the challenge, Wild Bill.

SnailRunner
02-12-2006, 11:01 PM
yup...kammies can be set up in FMB, and you can set all planes to do it...here is a ingame shot of a KI-100 just about to hit a carrier...

http://www.virtual-air.dk/NEWS.htm

Scroll down and you will se the pic

stevedeth2004
02-13-2006, 07:29 AM
I always thought Kamakaze would be a great career choice,

1. Limited Training
2. Great party before first day of work
3. Only have to go to work once

Sluggo

JG53Frankyboy
02-13-2006, 07:32 AM
as already said, AI controlled planes are able to fly Kamikaze attacks, the ships will be hurt/sink.

Human cant do this, if you die your bomb doesnt "count". and a , at least human flown plane , do no damage to ships .

bogusheadbox
02-13-2006, 08:18 AM
I think you will find that on Dog fight servers,...... Kamakaze tactics can and will sink ships.

As proven by last instalment of SNTF (Saturday Night at The Fights.

Hoatee
02-13-2006, 04:39 PM
Probably obvious but decreasing the target's rate of fire might help some. And smaller targets with fewer guns (a destroyer would be easier to hit than a battleship, for example).

Saunders1953
02-13-2006, 09:57 PM
Do you mean online, JG53Frankyboy? Offline you can damage ships. This 1944 Russian destroyer masqueradiing as a Destroyer Escort was sunk with 250kg bomb (and me and the plane). Like most of the other ships it was a veteran with default ROF settings. There were several Flechter Class destroyers in the defense ring, with the CV Essex adding her weight. It gets tricky--you can't just fly straight in, and of course a lot of luck. This one took me 4 tries and there are about 6 or so other Kamikazes diving just before or during my run in for distraction.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v734/Ceasar1/KK4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v734/Ceasar1/KK5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v734/Ceasar1/KK6.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v734/Ceasar1/KK7.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v734/Ceasar1/KK8.jpg

nicolas10
02-14-2006, 03:28 AM
I'm halfway through my kamizaze campaign...

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ie, chosing the plane http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

raaaid
02-14-2006, 05:33 AM
did you know that verner von brow had designed a kamikaze mission to nuke new york with a nuclear ballistic piloted rocket?

seems that axis believed in karma and reincarnation which justified the suicidal misions

imho their mistake was forgetting compasion they would say that a suffering person deserved no compasion because they had deserve that suffering

in my opinion not only a suffering person deserves compassion but also an evil one because he is gonna suffer because of this in the future

Hoatee
02-15-2006, 06:28 AM
Whatever next? A new cast for the hollow?

Rammjaeger
03-03-2006, 08:29 AM
There are AI kamikaze missions in the game, their effect seems to be limited though.

Screenshots from RN campaign, last mission (kamikaze attacking the USS Indianapolis):

http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/4301/kamikaze5kg.th.jpg (http://img489.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kamikaze5kg.jpg)

http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/9342/kamikaze31an.th.jpg (http://img489.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kamikaze31an.jpg)

http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/8912/kamikaze51jg.th.jpg (http://img489.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kamikaze51jg.jpg)

The ship didnt suffer serious damage.

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/6940/ussindianapolis37tu.th.jpg (http://img129.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ussindianapolis37tu.jpg)

Hoatee
03-03-2006, 02:22 PM
Seriously though,

On the Discovery Channel there was a documentary on the Kamikaze (as part of the Gladiators series) in which the comment was made that the attacks would have been more effective if conducted in a similar fashion to the German Stuka raids. The Japanese apparently attacked in one direction only which allowed Allied flak to concentrate their fire.

Nimits
03-03-2006, 02:52 PM
Kamikazes are in the DGen campaign, as stated above.

And, quite frankly, any anti-shipping mission can be a kamikaze missions if you want it to be . . .

Rammjaeger
03-03-2006, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by Hoatee:
Seriously though,

On the Discover Channel there was a documentary on the Kamikaze (as part of the Gladiators series) in which the comment was made that the attacks would have been more effective if conducted in a similar fashion to the German Stuka raids. The Japanese apparently attacked in one direction only which allowed Allied flak to concentrate their fire.

It takes a considerable amount of pilot skill to carry out dive bombing. And most kamikaze pilots did not have that kind of skill (experienced pilots were not allowed to volunteer for kamikaze attacks for obvious reasons - as a result most kamikaze pilots were noobs).