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Chrystine
11-17-2005, 09:31 AM
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Hi Doug, (&nd all & any others who may have any interest to see these €˜few€ shots) €¦

Sorry it took me so long to make-good on my promise to share some of these.
None of them are what I€d call €˜great shots€ in the sense I usually mean that €" and any €˜greatness€ they have owes entirely to the pictorial documentation of the experience: my one and only Passenger Liner engagement to-date.

She took a long time to kill, as you€ll see through the chronological unfolding of the shots shown here.
Well worth the patient waiting for the break in the weather that allowed turning the .88 on her to finish the job.

For any who may be interested, the shots also include Date/Time stamps and grid location marker for where the engagement(s) took place.

Sorry there are so many here, too €¦ I finally just €˜collapsed€ under the strain of trying to select specific examples, and just excluded some from the collection to at-least pear-it-down to these 48€¦ http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

As said previously too €" none of these are, in my opinion, nearly equal to yours which I still admire above & beyond my own.
Even so €" here are the collected €˜proofs€ that on the 2nd and 3rd of May, 1940, U-132 did engage, stop and ultimately destroy the RMS Boundless Joy €¦

Hope you€ll enjoy seeing at-least some of these€¦ http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/U-132_PaxLiner_1a.jpg
http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/U-132_PaxLiner_1b.jpg
http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/U-132_PaxLiner_4a.jpg
http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/U-132_PaxLiner_4b.jpg
http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/U-132_PaxLiner_4c.jpg
http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/U-132_PaxLiner_4d.jpg
http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/U-132_PaxLiner_4e.jpg
http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/U-132_PaxLiner_4f.jpg
http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/U-132_PaxLiner_4g.jpg
http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/U-132_PaxLiner_4h.jpg
http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/U-132_PaxLiner_6a.jpg
http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/U-132_PaxLiner_8a.jpg
http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/U-132_PaxLiner_8b.jpg
http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/U-132_PaxLiner_9a.jpg
http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/U-132_PaxLiner_10a.jpg
http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/U-132_PaxLiner_11a.jpg
http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/U-132_PaxLiner_11b.jpg
http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/U-132_PaxLiner_12a.jpg
http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/U-132_PaxLiner_12b.jpg
http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/U-132_PaxLiner_12c.jpg
http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/U-132_PaxLiner_13a.jpg
http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/U-132_PaxLiner_14a.jpg
http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/U-132_PaxLiner_15e.jpg
http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/U-132_PaxLiner_16a.jpg
http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/U-132_PaxLiner_16b.jpg
http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/U-132_PaxLiner_16c.jpg
http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/U-132_PaxLiner_17a.jpg
http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/U-132_PaxLiner_17b.jpg
http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/U-132_PaxLiner_17c.jpg
http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/U-132_PaxLiner_17d.jpg
http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/U-132_PaxLiner_17e.jpg
http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/U-132_PaxLiner_17f.jpg
http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/U-132_PaxLiner_17g.jpg
http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/U-132_PaxLiner_17h.jpg
http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/U-132_PaxLiner_18a.jpg
http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/U-132_PaxLiner_18b.jpg
http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/U-132_PaxLiner_18c.jpg
http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/U-132_PaxLiner_18d.jpg
http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/U-132_PaxLiner_18e.jpg
http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/U-132_PaxLiner_19a.jpg
http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/U-132_PaxLiner_20a.jpg
http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/U-132_PaxLiner_20b.jpg
http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/U-132_PaxLiner_21a.jpg
http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/U-132_PaxLiner_22b.jpg
http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/U-132_PaxLiner_23d-2.jpg
http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/U-132_PaxLiner_24c.jpg
http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/U-132_PaxLiner_24e.jpg
http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/U-132_PaxLiner_24h-2.jpg


Best, & good hunting!
Tia

~ C.

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The_Silent_O
11-17-2005, 09:58 AM
I betcha' you went into a tizzy when one of the two torpedoes in the initial salvo prematurely detonated...

Didn't you learn your lesson last time you went down to do a victim verification...almost got blown up!

How long did you chase it...before you could sink it with your gun...any air attacks during that time?

all in all a cool sequence...still looking for my first liner kill!

The_Silent_O
11-17-2005, 09:59 AM
Oh, and love your "Times Square" active banner with tonnage and patrol data!

Chrystine
11-17-2005, 10:30 AM
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Hi Otto! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

€œI betcha' you went into a tizzy when one of the two torpedoes in the initial salvo prematurely detonated...€

I was plenty not-pleased€¦
It was a spread of two, one set magnetic one impact €" I knew the magnetic was a big risk given the sea-state, but took it anyway hoping for the best as the range was quite short. No such luck tho€.

€œDidn't you learn your lesson last time you went down to do a victim verification...almost got blown up!€

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I did indeed. Learned a valuable lesson. That lesson is one learned by Bruna von Bülow €" Kara & U-132 never had such an experience.
Too, U-50 was much closer to that €˜dead€ Trawler than U-132 ever came to the sunken liner.
( These Liner shots are pretty €˜dated€ now €" it€s taken me forever and a day to keep my promise made to Doug way-back-when€¦. ).

How long did you chase it...before you could sink it with your gun...any air attacks during that time?€

I actually €˜chased€ her only the one time €" to fire the last remaining torpedo, which proved the one which finally succeeded in stopping her engines. That chase was actually more of a flanking maneuver as we were passing her off her port beam even while submerged €" she was already in a world of hurt by then.
After that final torpedo struck she was just dead in the water, her fate sealed. Either the Atlantic swells would drag her down (not likely, she didn€t appear to be listing or taking in any more water than the crew could deal with efficiently), or the weather would eventually break and U-132 would be there with the .88

No, surprisingly enough, the RAF never showed up €" not for the entire 20+ hours from start to close.
Neither did any warship appear answering any distress call she may have sent.
We simply circled her twice in a ring of about 12 kms. making an average of 2 kts. to conserve battery charge and reduce time we€d need be on the surface.

€œ..all in all a cool sequence...still looking for my first liner kill!€

Much-thanks Otto!
It€s quite a rush €" even if one botch the torpedo attack(s) as I did€¦
Hope you€ll find yours soon & in the most favorable of circumstances.

€œ Oh, and love your €˜Times Square€ active banner with tonnage and patrol data!€

Many thanks for that also€¦ Much appreciated. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Best, as ever & good hunting!
~ C.

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Ratek
11-17-2005, 10:45 AM
One waits and waits... And simply can't forget that neutral liner... GAH!!!

doug.d
11-17-2005, 01:56 PM
Yikes Tia, my 56k modem just threw a wobbly! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif Someone once said "Be caeful what you ask for, you might get it." http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Just kidding. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif I'm sure the pics are gr8, but I'll reserve my comments 'til I actually see them. (Tomorrow, on my 100MB/s line at work.) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Bubblehead1948
11-17-2005, 07:31 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif If I remember correctly, Chrystine, one or more folks on here really gave you the needle once for expressing a reluctance to nail troopships and the like. And my recollection is that the dialogue got a little over the top.

Judging by these shots, I'd say the matter has been put to rest. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

ILikePortillos
11-17-2005, 07:54 PM
Wow! Nice shots Chrystine! Such a proud liner; Almost a shame to see it go down.

I said almost. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

And way to stick with it overnight! Gave them time to lower the boats and get the (surviving) passengers off. Really is quite a surprise as you mentioned that no one came to her aid. All that time under attack and no help. Maybe because it's so early in the war and the Admiralty is still scrambling to cope with the U-Boat threat.

Should make a good episode of Deep Sea Detectives (http://www.deepseadetectives.com/)! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Chrystine
11-17-2005, 09:20 PM
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Hi guys,

Ratek,

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif ..True enough.
I admit I was pleased when I saw the British colors flying over this one.
Nothing neutral about it.

It is the third liner I€ve ever seen over 4 Careers (including my present one), and the only one which wasn€t American €" and she came right to me, as if following a beacon.


Doug,

Oooops! Sorry for the €˜wobbly.€ The thread is bordering on €˜Titanic.€
Well. At-least it€s something else for your attention while at work, huh? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


Bubblehead,

Sure-enough, that too€¦
I reckon I did push that dialogue a bit over the top, as you say €¦ http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif
..Sometimes I€m just a real be-otch I guess €¦ (It was never meant to be such tho€, of course€¦). http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

I€ve never had any trouble yielding to persuasive reasoning €" (well, rarely) €" and I think there was good reasoning from all sides of that discussion.
Strange in the way it worked that these shots even got posted €" and that they have been so to fulfill a promise made to Doug.
When I sank her, and she hit the bottom and I was making my inspection dive, one of the first things I thought was €" €œWell, I€ll process some of these shots and make a Post for Dom. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif €œ
I still think of his very good argument regarding just the sheer, brute size and capacity of these things €" and what the opportunity means to be able to intercept and €˜kill it.€
Atop all that & all else €" war just hardens all things . . .


ILPortillos,

Many thanks! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
I sure appreciate those kind words.

It is a shame really, I think €¦ I even think it€s a shame when a Cargo ship is sunk in the name of attrition and blockade.
.. But €¦ http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

It€s a job€¦

€œAnd way to stick with it overnight! Gave them time to lower the boats and get the (surviving) passengers off. Really is quite a surprise as you mentioned that no one came to her aid. All that time under attack and no help. Maybe because it's so early in the war and the Admiralty is still scrambling to cope with the U-Boat threat.€

Thanks for that as well€¦ http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
I had occasion even then to think about that a good bit, too €" more than a little €˜surprised€ in all that time, nothing showed up. Nothing. Not even a €˜Keep-the-Faith Tugboat.€

I imagined this scenario (which is rather sad really).
She was hit, several times by torpedo and ultimately stopped dead in her course, unable to move another half-an inch.
She saw us plain as day, as we surfaced directly off her port beam as we began making the large circle around her €" recharging the batteries before diving and she lost us from her view once & forever-more.
She reported her plight €" perhaps repeatedly; explaining what had happened and what they€d seen.
An answer eventually came: €œHold-fast, U-boat departed most-likely to depletion of torpedoes and ammunition, relief ships are en route to transfer all passengers and crew. Expect arrival of the first thirty hours from receipt of this communication.€

So they did nothing. Lowered no boats, and made no preparations for another attack. They just sat €" waiting, oblivious €" doomed.

The €˜error€ being two-fold thus: that they assumed we had left the area, and that they believed they could, and set to provide for, the transfer of all passengers and crew which required mustering numerous large enough boats and ships for a €˜rescue convoy€ that simply cost too much time€¦
Time she didn€t have.

..But where was the RAF?
(Not that I€m complaining €¦. But where were they?).
Assumptions are dreadfully dangerous . . .
I can only think they sent no air-cover for her in waiting, as we were presumed to €œhave left the area.€

Would like to see that one on Deep Sea Detectives, tho€! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
I love that program€¦ Always fascinating.

Thanks again to everyone €¦
Best, & good hunting €"

~ C.

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doug.d
11-17-2005, 11:14 PM
No, no, no Tia, we're spoiled now, please frame your pics in the manner to which we have become accustomed and repost them!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Congrats, gr8 pics telling a gr8 story of a gr8 and tenacious victory. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

The change of weather was lucky, never happens to me. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

HoldSteady641
11-18-2005, 05:47 AM
Yes, pity to see it happen to this ship. I feel bad myself, I shelled an English Fishing boat last night. My only excuses was that I was shelling a C2 when the fishermen came across, passing us in a few hundred meters. I just could't resist it. Perhaps they were 'ramptoeristen'. That's Dutch for describing people who come and stand and look and photograph disasters, for the fun of it.

Chrystine
11-18-2005, 02:39 PM
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Hi Doug,

Thanks! Very-much, indeed€¦ http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

€œNo, no, no Tia, we're spoiled now, please frame your pics in the manner to which we have become accustomed and repost them!!€

Uhg! ..That€d take a while€¦ http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

The break in the weather really was fortunate €" although I was prepared to wait it out as long as fuel held out. I was braced for the typical week long wait, and was rather surprised when it broke late the following night.
€œLucky€ for sure€¦ http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

HoldSteady,

€œI feel bad myself, I shelled an English Fishing boat last night. My only excuses was that I was shelling a C2 when the fishermen came across, passing us in a few hundred meters. I just could't resist it.€

I know the feeling €¦
&nd I still continue to do the same.

The way I look at it now tho€ is €" the enemy is whatever is under the enemy€s flag.

Best, as always €"
Tia

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bitterblueben
11-22-2005, 06:37 AM
Hi there,

Excellent shots of Liner deathhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

What screen resolution were you using at the time the shots were taken?

Thanks,

Ben.

RedTerex
11-22-2005, 07:04 AM
Thanks for sharing your adventures in "Liner Killing" with the rest of the Community.

Did you go back and use the deck gun on her or did she just erupt after hours of being ablaze ?

As it happens I have yet to encounter such a prize.

Anyway, good work !

Chrystine
11-22-2005, 11:33 AM
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Hi Ben!

Thanks much indeed, I sure appreciate that. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

€œWhat screen resolution were you using at the time the shots were taken?€

It€s just the default SH III Screen Resolution / 1024 x 768 pxls.
Thanks again for the kind comment & compliment.


Hi RedTerex!

It is good to see you back, sharing & posting again€¦

Thanks to you, as well for that€¦
It€s my pleasure €" I have much enjoyed being able to share with the community here, those things mine, and those shared by others.

€œDid you go back and use the deck gun on her or did she just erupt after hours of being ablaze ?€

Right you are!
I had no choice but wait for a break in the weather in order to bring the .88 on her. When that break came late the following night, we surfaced just aft her port beam and finished her with the deck gun.
It didn€t take too long once the rounds started landing. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

€œAs it happens I have yet to encounter such a prize.€

They are out there, for sure€¦ (as Doug, for one, has been ably demonstrating).
I was & am sorry to hear of the loss of your HD and all that entailed, but the good news is you€re now back and able to resume the hunt!
In that, I wish you a warm return welcome and the best-fortune of good hunting!

Best regards,
~ C.

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The_Silent_O
11-22-2005, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by Chrystine:
Right you are!
I had no choice but wait for a break in the weather in order to bring the <span class="ev_code_RED">.88</span> on her. When that break came late the following night, we surfaced just aft her port beam and finished her with the deck gun.
It didn€t take too long once the rounds started landing. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
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http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Chrystine's 0.88mm naval gun! (how many crew does it take to reload that gun!)
http://www.p4a.com/item_images/medium/04/07/01-01.jpg


T, At least you know I'm reading all of your words! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

M!

Chrystine
11-22-2005, 12:03 PM
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€œT, At least you know I'm reading all of your words!€

&nd kindly checking my math! Thanks€¦ http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
..D€oh! .. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif

€œChrystine's 0.88mm naval gun! (how many crew does it take to reload that gun!)€

I routinely keep two on hand for reloading, one for powder and ball, one to ram €˜er home! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I just still can€t understand why Bdu insists we have to remove this €¦

http://www.p4a.com/item_images/medium/04/07/01-01.jpg

..in order to be fitted with a snorkel€¦

Thanks for the correction, M.
Duly noted €" it may even sink in this time€¦
(The visual helps! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif )

Best, as ever €"
T.

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macker33
11-22-2005, 04:22 PM
Nice scalp,how many torps did you hit it with and how many shots from the deck gun did it take?

Kaleun1961
11-22-2005, 04:27 PM
Sorry I've come late to this thread. Nice pics. I have to say that I most admire the shots where you've parked your sub next to the sunken ship. It sort of reminds me of those pictures of hunters who pose with their fallen trophy.

Chrystine
11-22-2005, 05:34 PM
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Hi Macker,

Thanks much€¦ http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I fired a total of (my last) Four torps at her. The first, shown in the Fourth shot down from the top (magnetic pistol) €" detonated prematurely. The other three all (impact pistols) hit her.

I didn€t count the rounds fired before the last explosion at her stern finally opened the floodgates €" but as best memory serves now, I€d guess it was about 10 to 15 shots.
She was in a pretty bad way from the three torps already it seemed.

Hi Kaleun,

It is good to see you back €˜in action€ again.
My thanks to you as well €" thanks much€¦

It€s all but impossible it seems, short of a sort of €˜slide show by captured frames€ €" to convey by still images that in those €˜posing shots€ we€re almost always actually moving past the victim €" albeit very slowly €" usually at 1 or 2 kts.

After our €˜incident€ with the sunken Armed Trawler, we don€t make such inspection dives anymore.
That was a rather rude awakening to the risks of doing so.

Best, & thanks again €¦
Good hunting, always -
~ C.

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Kaleun1961
11-22-2005, 08:10 PM
I must have missed something. What happened with the sunken armed trawler?

Chrystine
11-22-2005, 10:15 PM
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Hi Kaleun,

I started typing out the account here again, then remembered where I€d already posted about the incident.
As I doubt I could tell it better again, I€ll just share the link to that thread, which is here €"

<span class="ev_code_pink">Weird Things</span> (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/857101043/m/5451040773).

It was quite €˜weird,€ I can say €¦
Lesson learned tho€ €¦ http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Best,
~ C.

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macker33
11-23-2005, 06:26 PM
I guess a liner would be worth 4 torps alright,funny how a big prize like that didnt have a half dozen escorts.

I reckons its time for me to start hanging out around gibralter.

Chrystine
11-23-2005, 08:12 PM
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Hi Macker,

Sure enough. I did try at-least €" first-fire was a spread of two €" with one hit. After that I fired a single €" hit, still moving, tho€ speed dropped to 5 knots.
Fired the last single that got her stopped at-least.

Operating down by Gibraltar is a lot of fun, isn€t it?
The biggest Task Force Group (struck me as more of a small Battle Fleet really) I€ve ever seen, I intercepted in the middle of the Straight. I managed to hit two Nelsons almost-simultaneously €" and neither of them sank. Then the air cover showed up €" and with the 14 Destroyers on hand, pursuit was out of the question. I had to just watch it vanish into the haze of the distant horizon. Battleships, Fleet Carrier, Cruisers and the legion of Destroyer escorts €¦

Some really great hunting just outside the straight tho€.
Dangerous AO. as well €" so always plenty exciting.

Be careful if you head down that way - & good hunting!

Best,
~ C.

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macker33
11-23-2005, 08:57 PM
I dunoh,i havent been to gibralter yet,its definately getting a visit next time i play because i'm sick of having to travel miles to intercept contacts.

How shallow is the water,i remember when i first got the game sneaking into alexandria harbour(i went down to inspect the suez canal) and finding out too late that the water was really really shallow,I've been freaked out about going into shallow water ever since.

The english channel seems to be a dead loss,nothing but armed trawlers.
Where do you reckon the best bounty spot is?

Chrystine
11-23-2005, 10:15 PM
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€œHow shallow is the water[?]€

It€s deep. Very deep.
You will see the relative depth changes on the nav. map €" it€s shallower of course the nearer to shore on either coastline €" but the mid-straight passage is deep.
Just beware, it is very well screened with Destroyers and Air cover.

€œWhere do you reckon the best bounty spot is?€

€˜Best€ €" single & superlative?
Best-guess, in every ambitious Kapitan€s imagination and dreams. In reality? I really don€t know€¦
Perhaps somewhere such as the tri-Grid AO. of AM51, 52 & 54.
Sometimes the waiting is a little longer than others €" sometimes, there€s barely time to €˜rest€ at-all; but it is a target-rich environment for sure.
TFG€s I know have been spotted with some frequency West of Ireland and to the North and North-east of same.
Outside, in the Atlantic entrance to the Straight of Gibraltar is also target rich €" but the air menace seems more pervasive to me and there€s need for constant watch for the ever-present DD€s.

In the end I think, tho€ €" the €˜many miles of searching€ is just part of the job€¦

Best, & good hunting!
~ C.

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