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Jabberwocky_
01-21-2005, 09:10 AM
With the imminent release of a several aircraft to the series, there are a few notable plane sets that are a little more desirable than most. Or, ''How I drove myself crazy in anticipation of the coolest birds Maddox is withholding from us.'' Yeah, it's driving us all NUTS and it's becoming tiresome but let's consider this: sure, well probably get the Betty and the Ki-100 in the next add-on, as promised, along with a few other Pacifying Consolation Prizes such as the Claude and what not. But the GRAVY, the Cr√¬®me de la cr√¬®me, the Cherry on the Sundae, the Pamela Andersons of aircraft will be conveniently reserved for a Pay add-on, released sometime in spring, I speculate. Why? Simple really. We've been drooling over and sending more posts for these aircraft than aby other. Maddox and company know this. Which is why they know that we are willing to pay for them. And why not? They are stunningly modelled (if you've checked the work over at netwings.org). Hell, I'm willing to pay for them right now, and I'm sure as Al B. Sure that you are too!

In conclusion, I think that there should be fewer questions about when these plane sets will arrive. I'll bet my mother in law that they are all coming, along with countless other beaties in a pay add-on in spring/summer 2005. No doubt a Pacific Fighters variant of AEP.

Cheers

Jabberwocky

Capt._Tenneal
01-21-2005, 09:26 AM
My saliva factor is reserved for any new ships. We still need a lot, specially PF : Yamato-class, the REAL Pearl Harbor battleships (not the placeholders like the King George V), Heavy and Light cruisers, IJN escort carriers, etc.

New planes need new targets, right ? heh heh... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Oh and you forgot to add the Il-10 to your list. That's been written about and requested for a while too. Gotta be even handed here now, not Western-biased.

jagdmailer
01-21-2005, 09:27 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jabberwocky_:
With the imminent release of a several aircraft to the series, there are a few notable plane sets that are a little more desirable than most. Or, ''How I drove myself crazy in anticipation of the coolest birds Maddox is withholding from us.'' Yeah, it's driving us all NUTS and it's becoming tiresome but let's consider this: sure, well probably get the Betty and the Ki-100 in the next add-on, as promised, along with a few other Pacifying Consolation Prizes such as the Claude and what not. But the GRAVY, the Cr√¬®me de la cr√¬®me, the Cherry on the Sundae, the Pamela Andersons of aircraft will be conveniently reserved for a Pay add-on, released sometime in spring, I speculate. Why? Simple really. We've been drooling over and sending more posts for these aircraft than aby other. Maddox and company know this. Which is why they know that we are willing to pay for them. And why not? They are stunningly modelled (if you've checked the work over at netwings.org). Hell, I'm willing to pay for them right now, and I'm sure as Al B. Sure that you are too!

In conclusion, I think that there should be fewer questions about when these plane sets will arrive. I'll bet my mother in law that they are all coming, along with countless other beaties in a pay add-on in spring/summer 2005. No doubt a Pacific Fighters variant of AEP.

Cheers

Jabberwocky <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well,

I am not one to complain about paying usually but I will be pi$$ed if we have to pay for those ones - those were going to be a patch for FB/AEP until Luthier came about and split the modelling comunity with PF and delayed the implementation of the Ju 88 and others - while stealing the Beau, A20G for PF and including some other projects that crashed and burned.

Now, take a look at PF, it's about a 50% done product right now as far as I am concerned and we had to pay for this 2 months ago and still have a 50% done product. Therefore, the sensible thing to do here is finish PF as it should have been in the box, then give us the Ju 88 and others as it should have been to thank the customers for their loyalty and patience in the debacle that PF has been overall so far.

Oleg could always pay himself from Luthier's portion of the PF proceeds to compensate 1C for the cluster $#@% that Luthier created with his management of PF.

That is my honest 2 cents.

Jagd

JG52Russkly
01-21-2005, 09:31 AM
You are probably right.

One question, though: why the Do335? Why another weirdo for the oddball plane set, that already includes the Mistel, the Bf109Z, plus that TB3 with I-16s hanging from its wings like ripe fruit?

Only 38 D0335s were delivered to the LW!

Okay, okay, interesting for the 'what if' merchants, as are the jets, but we all know that these weapons would not have altered the course of the war at all. Germany did not have a shortage of aircraft, rather a shortage, and a pretty terminal one too, of adequately-trained pilots.

Ooops, bit of a rant there, but I never did understand all the oddball aircraft that AEP introduced. I see almost none of them online, and I truly wonder how many people fly them offline.

On the other hand, I cannot wait for the long-awaited 'staples' of the major airforces such as the Tempest, Mosquito, and Ju-88. Plus Pe2, Hs129, Me410, etc., etc., etc. And I'm prepared to pay for 'em too. And maps.

So there.

jagdmailer
01-21-2005, 09:46 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JG52Russkly:
You are probably right.

One question, though: why the Do335? Why another weirdo for the oddball plane set, that already includes the Mistel, the Bf109Z, plus that TB3 with I-16s hanging from its wings like ripe fruit?

Only 38 D0335s were delivered to the LW!

Okay, okay, interesting for the 'what if' merchants, as are the jets, but we all know that these weapons would not have altered the course of the war at all. Germany did not have a shortage of aircraft, rather a shortage, and a pretty terminal one too, of adequately-trained pilots.

Ooops, bit of a rant there, but I never did understand all the oddball aircraft that AEP introduced. I see almost none of them online, and I truly wonder how many people fly them offline.

On the other hand, I cannot wait for the long-awaited 'staples' of the major airforces such as the Tempest, Mosquito, and Ju-88. Plus Pe2, Hs129, Me410, etc., etc., etc. And I'm prepared to pay for 'em too. And maps.

So there. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hs 129 & Me 210/Me 410 won't make it. Same for the Do 17Z-2, Do 217 series (5 variants) and he 177A-5. Ta 152C-1 & C-3 probably won't make it either. The Ju 188 (AI) was not going to make it either, unless it's been taken back up.

So in the end, it would be Ju 88 several variants, Pe-2, perhaps Tempest & Mosquito one or 2 Italian planes, a few ground objects, a map and that is about it.

Jagd

Po-cat
01-21-2005, 09:46 AM
Russkly

Well ranted, Sir! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

I'm wholehartedly in agreement with your statement: The oddballs should be the ones reserved for when all the mainstream stuff has been done - accurately http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif. I guess we don't see more Luft '46 scenarios online because we all have a feel for the realism, not the fantasy.
I have to take you to task on one thing, though: you never mentioned the Typhoon http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Jabberwocky_
01-21-2005, 09:51 AM
Quote:
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Well,

I am not one to complain about paying usually but I will be pi$$ed if we have to pay for those ones - those were going to be a patch for FB/AEP until Luthier came about and split the modelling comunity with PF and delayed the implementation of the Ju 88 and others - while stealing the Beau, A20G for PF and including some other projects that crashed and burned.

Now, take a look at PF, it's about a 50% done product right now as far as I am concerned and we had to pay for this 2 months ago and still have a 50% done product. Therefore, the sensible thing to do here is finish PF as it should have been in the box, then give us the Ju 88 and others as it should have been to thank the customers for their loyalty and patience in the debacle that PF has been overall so far.

Oleg could always pay himself from Luthier's portion of the PF proceeds to compensate 1C for the cluster $#@% that Luthier created with his management of PF.

That is my honest 2 cents.

Jagd
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Good point Jagd.
I agree 99% with you. However, I also find myself in a state of perpetual part frustration and part anger towards what I feel is also an unfinished product with several problems (unsatisfactory campaigns, missing planes etc) but it comes down to this: who else is gonna build it? Which other company has even come close to building something even CLOSE to the IL2 franchise? Zip, squat, bubkys. That being said, 1C have been bathing in an ocean of glory because of this, and quite frankly, they are doing things, ahem... ''their way''. Sure, we could get more of this, we could get more of that, but honestly, at the end of the day, we're ok. And besides, what options do we really have. I certainly WISH we could get the **** birds for free, but I just know it ain`t gonna happen.

And why the Do-335, by the way, (in answer to the above post)? Because someone built it that's why. The model has been completed and in the hands of 1C. And it doesn't matter that it did basically nothing to impact the war. It was there, it participated, and it's dead-cool! Push-pull combo... come on man! How can you resist?

Cheers,

Jabberwocky

jagdmailer
01-21-2005, 10:09 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jagdmailer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jabberwocky_:
With the imminent release of a several aircraft to the series, there are a few notable plane sets that are a little more desirable than most. Or, ''How I drove myself crazy in anticipation of the coolest birds Maddox is withholding from us.'' Yeah, it's driving us all NUTS and it's becoming tiresome but let's consider this: sure, well probably get the Betty and the Ki-100 in the next add-on, as promised, along with a few other Pacifying Consolation Prizes such as the Claude and what not. But the GRAVY, the Cr√¬®me de la cr√¬®me, the Cherry on the Sundae, the Pamela Andersons of aircraft will be conveniently reserved for a Pay add-on, released sometime in spring, I speculate. Why? Simple really. We've been drooling over and sending more posts for these aircraft than aby other. Maddox and company know this. Which is why they know that we are willing to pay for them. And why not? They are stunningly modelled (if you've checked the work over at netwings.org). Hell, I'm willing to pay for them right now, and I'm sure as Al B. Sure that you are too!

In conclusion, I think that there should be fewer questions about when these plane sets will arrive. I'll bet my mother in law that they are all coming, along with countless other beaties in a pay add-on in spring/summer 2005. No doubt a Pacific Fighters variant of AEP.

Cheers

Jabberwocky <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well,

I am not one to complain about paying usually but I will be pi$$ed if we have to pay for those ones - those were going to be a patch for FB/AEP until Luthier came about and split the modelling comunity with PF and delayed the implementation of the Ju 88 and others - while stealing the Beau, A20G for PF and including some other projects that crashed and burned.

Now, take a look at PF, it's about a 50% done product right now as far as I am concerned and we had to pay for this 2 months ago and still have a 50% done product. Therefore, the sensible thing to do here is finish PF as it should have been in the box, then give us the Ju 88 and others as it should have been to thank the customers for their loyalty and patience in the debacle that PF has been overall so far.

Oleg could always pay himself from Luthier's portion of the PF proceeds to compensate 1C for the cluster $#@% that Luthier created with his management of PF.

That is my honest 2 cents.

Jagd <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Gents, I apologize for the grammatical error in this sentence:

Oleg could................to compensate 1C for the cluster $#@% that Luthier created with his mismanagement of PF.

Now, that is better.

Jagd

ReligiousZealot
01-21-2005, 10:59 AM
I've been with IL2 since the demo was released (upgraded my system just to play it), but over time lost interest in IL2, I got sucked into the whole Battlefield thing, traded in IL2...when I heard the first announcements of Pacific Fighters, I jumped at the chance to play in the Pacific theater, I for one, am a big fan of the old DOS games, 1942 and Aces Over the Pacific, so I preordered my copy through EB Games as soon as it was available. After a hassle of it finally getting delivered, I slapped it into my drive, installed and began to play. Now, to my point. I was greatly disappointed with the inability to fly torpedo bombers and the complete lack there of several aircraft that I had thoroughly enjoyed piloting in the two aforementioned Pacific sims. I was even more angered by the fact it was about 2 week late on delivery compliments of the GTA San Andreas release which had more priority over me who had ordered priority shipping. Now do I really feel ripped off with a 50% finished product? No, I don't, I am quite happy with Pacific Fighters as it is now. As human being's nature, I still want more. I want what the box said was supposed to be in game, I want the actually ability to use carrier based torpedo bombers. I for one, was not willing to pay for the airplanes I thought I was going to get. BUT, after hearing of all this **** about licensing issues has made me reconsider my intial thoughts. I decided I am willing to pay for an expansion pack, with all the content that is desired. Why? Because, to resolve the conflict with licensing issues and to give the community what it wants, the only logical choice would be for 1C Maddox to release an expansion pack to gain the money to pay for the licensing fees. I know I've run on a bit, but I hope I've been able to illustrate my point, I will pay for an expansion pack because I believe that the new content would be well worth another 30 bucks.

m.manson2004
01-21-2005, 11:15 AM
fine but are we going to see the flyable torp bombers in that pack in June,why dont they make some anouncement to cool us down?
manson

IL2-chuter
01-21-2005, 12:38 PM
I'm all for the "staples" as well, HOWEVER, the flight models for the . . . http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif lesser flown aircraft tend to be http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif . . . less contentious. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif Will we have the high speed porpoise in the 335? (Do we have the high speed snaking of the 262?) Having no idea where I'm heading with this http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif I will stop.

Franzonto
01-21-2005, 12:56 PM
You guys need to begin to understand that a game with this good of a flight modelling can't just stay with relatively similarily-behaving prop planes that actually saw a lot of service. To the true pilot, vastly different flight behaviors are a challenge that causes the curiosity that the majority of the Il-2 gamers feel.

The historical correctness is one part, but it can always be realized with a few limitations in the mission design. Completely different planes however need to built and implemented to satisfy this urge of the community.

I for one want the Do335 because a) it looks cool b) it has a size/maneuverability/speed ratio that no other plane comes even close to.

The greatness of the historical feeling is something that you mostly create in your mind, for you have to imagine a lot to feel as if you were actually there, but a different plane is a different plane, this goes for the jets, the wing-only planes, the rocket planes and the dual motor planes.
If it is that you fear the Do335 in the skies as an unbeatable enemy say so! Just, accept that it flew, and that it's tempting in many aspects.

goshikisen
01-21-2005, 01:21 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Capt._Tenneal:
My saliva factor is reserved for any new ships. We still need a lot, specially PF : _Yamato_-class, the REAL Pearl Harbor battleships (not the placeholders like the _King George V_), Heavy and Light cruisers, IJN escort carriers, etc.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Agree whole-heartedly. A Pacific Theatre sim needs a reasonable complement of Pacific Theatre targets. When people think about WW2 in the Pacific most would immediately envision battleships, carriers, and cruisers... PF really needs to add some meat to the bone of the USN, IJN, RN fleets.

Regards, Goshikisen.

JG51Beolke
01-21-2005, 01:26 PM
I missed this whole Luthier thing. Can someone explain what exactly happened?

jagdmailer
01-21-2005, 01:28 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by goshikisen:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Capt._Tenneal:
My saliva factor is reserved for any new ships. We still need a lot, specially PF : _Yamato_-class, the REAL Pearl Harbor battleships (not the placeholders like the _King George V_), Heavy and Light cruisers, IJN escort carriers, etc.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Agree whole-heartedly. A Pacific Theatre sim needs a reasonable complement of Pacific Theatre targets. When people think about WW2 in the Pacific most would immediately envision battleships, carriers, and cruisers... PF really needs to add some meat to the bone of the USN, IJN, RN fleets.

Regards, Goshikisen. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Exactly.

Luthier was mouthing off a year ago about his "next" project while referring to PF, saying that it would have dozens of classes of ships. Take a look at the Pearl Harbor scenario and gasp... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/354.gif

Then, no Enterprise, Hornet & Yorktown.....what the $#@& ?

Show me the goods.

Jagd

J_Weaver
01-21-2005, 08:31 PM
I imagine that if Oleg had been given the time he needed to properly finish PF then we would either just now be getting it or maybe still waiting.

jagdmailer
01-21-2005, 08:37 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by J_Weaver:
I imagine that if Oleg had been given the time he needed to properly finish PF then we would either just now be getting it or maybe still waiting. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You probably were not privy to the conversations on Netwings.org .....

Jagd

LEXX_Luthor
01-21-2005, 09:34 PM
Don't Panic simmers/simmerettes, the sim has about 15-20 "real" planes for every one "fantasy" plane, depending on how you define "real" and "fantasy."

Thread title shows this...

Mosquito (2 variants...pingu?)
Do-335 (1 variant)
Tempest (1 variant)
Ju88 (4-8 variants)

We started lumping all variants into one "real" or "fantasy" aircraft Type, but we got stuck when we tried this on the MiG~3 variants.

Right on Franzo, Do~335 can make great contribution to Dynamic Campaign that could alter the war, but its sad its so hard for 3rd Parties to make Dynamic Campaigns for FB. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

J_Weaver:: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I imagine that if Oleg had been given the time he needed to properly finish PF then we would either just now be getting it or maybe still waiting. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I was thinking the same. Until we see a link showing this webboard otherwise, I will probably continue to think the same.


Still amazes me to see the insults and Hatred against real life (not gamer) Luftwaffe and postwar Allied pilots who jumped at the chance to fly real life Do~335. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

heywooood
01-21-2005, 09:37 PM
I can still Pfiel their scorn.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

VW-IceFire
01-21-2005, 09:46 PM
You know which one I'm salivating over? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I've got a bucket here for two years awaiting the release of a certain British single engine fighter with semi-eliptical wings and a chin radiator. I wonder what plane that is? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

DeerHunterUK
01-22-2005, 04:45 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
You know which one I'm salivating over? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I've got a bucket here for two years awaiting the release of a certain British single engine fighter with semi-eliptical wings and a chin radiator. I wonder what plane that is? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Umm the Typhoon? No, silly me it is of course the P-40F Kittyhawk. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

ElAurens
01-22-2005, 09:19 AM
Well, since you mentiond the Kittyhawk...

We really do need the P40N and K to flesh out the USAAF So Pac planeset. The USAAF flew the P40 well into 1944 as a front line fighter in the Pacific. The P40 was responsible for just under 50% of Japanese losses in New Guinea, whcih was the area where the IJAAF was truely beaten.

But I am digressing.

I am seeing a lot of very speculative time lines for the addon bandied about here. This speculation does nothing but add to the general confusion of those who are already hot under the collar about PF. So, can we just leave the speculation about release dates alone, and go on with our speculation about content instead?

Things are bad enough around here...

AlmightyTallest
01-22-2005, 01:38 PM
ReligiousZealot said it best, I'd be willing to pay for a Pacific Fighters addon, that would help to pay for these licensing fees or to help recoup any losses Oleg and team had with the release of PF.

I think a lot of us just want to be reassured that PF is going to still be supported in the future.

I'd pay $40 or more just for an addon that had accurate F4U-4 to fly in the late war campaigns in PF, and to compete against the D0-335 for those wanting to fly late war aircraft online. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I know, it's not going to happen, but I still wish it could happen http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

p1ngu666
01-23-2005, 06:04 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LEXX_Luthor:
Don't Panic simmers/simmerettes, the sim has about 15-20 "real" planes for every one "fantasy" plane, depending on how you define "real" and "fantasy."

Thread title shows this...

Mosquito (2 variants...pingu?)
Do-335 (1 variant)
Tempest (1 variant)
Ju88 (4-8 variants)

We started lumping all variants into one "real" or "fantasy" aircraft Type, but we got stuck when we tried this on the MiG~3 variants.

Right on Franzo, Do~335 can make great contribution to Dynamic Campaign that could alter the war, but its sad its so hard for 3rd Parties to make Dynamic Campaigns for FB. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

J_Weaver:: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I imagine that if Oleg had been given the time he needed to properly finish PF then we would either just now be getting it or maybe still waiting. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I was thinking the same. Until we see a link showing this webboard otherwise, I will probably continue to think the same.


Still amazes me to see the insults and Hatred against real life (not gamer) Luftwaffe and postwar Allied pilots who jumped at the chance to fly real life Do~335. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

flyable mark VI fighter bomber, ai IV bomber. i would actully really like a flyable glass nose bomber, with the bulged doors possibly http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
shoehorn in a 4,000lb cookie http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

think mark 6 will have 4 500lb bombs internaly,, and or 2 500lb'ers and 8 rockets on the wings

4 20mm hispano in the floor, with 283 rounds. each. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

28 seconds of fire time http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif. think 1000rounds for each 303 in the nose, theres 4 of them.

itll be like the beufighter, but much much more http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

ju88 will probably take the best meduim bomber prize, do335 will be interesting too http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

luthor, check ur pm mate http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Sturm_Williger
01-23-2005, 07:11 AM
You guys ! <adopts Yoda voice> "Always with you the glass is half empty !"

Such pessimism ! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Ivan hinted that the addon would contain things we're not expecting. It'll come when it comes and there'll be something new to moan about.

Just enjoy what you've got ( which is a lot, I feel )

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

DuxCorvan
01-23-2005, 07:11 AM
Don't build too many castles in the air. No official word about many of these projects.

The only ones we officially know about are:
1) Flyable Betty (the only one promised, but no pics yet)
2) Flyable Ki-100
3) Flyable CW-21 (WIP)
4) Flyable J3M (WIP)
5) Posible AI Devastator, Claude, Jill and Tempest
6) A 3rd party "VVS 1946" paid add-on only for Russian market

Things I know that are finished with Oleg but no word about release:
1) Flyable/AI Mosquito
2) Flyable Ju 88s
3) Flyable Pe-2 (maybe for the Russian market?)
3) Re.2001 cockpit (working on externals)
4) Re.2000 externals (working on cockpit)
5) Avia B.534 externals (working on cockpit)
6) Other variants of Beaufighter

Things that are WIP and have chances to be:
1) Flyable PBY Catalina
2) Flyable Tempest and B.534
3) Other variants of Ki-43 Oscar
4) Maybe? Two main variants of N1K George
5) Flyable C.200, C.202, C.205, Re.2000, R.2001, G.55...
6) Do 335 cockpit (faulty externals, being redone)
7) Late Spitfires

Things that are WIP and have little chance unless they're rushed:
1) Flyable Hawk 75/P-36
2) Flyable Hs 129
3) AI Swordfish

Things that I'm sure won't make it:
1) AI He 177, Do 17, Ju 188 (never finished)
2) Flyable Fw 200 (rejected)
3) Ta 152C (unknown status, but really dubious)
4) P-47N, P-38H, F4U-4 (affected by trademark issues)
5) Projects galore (He 115, P-61, He 219, A-36...) that simply never had a chance
6) Flyable B-29 (the developer worked a lot on it just to be ignored, so he stopped)

Simple rumors:
1) Other flyable variants of B-25
2) Il-10 (again, maybe only for Russian eyes?)
3) This and that...

No words, not even rumors, just universal whining:
1) Flyable carrier-borne torpedo bombers.

Besides: Murmansk map (?), new VVS campaigns (?), new weather effects, and some new objects (?).

Just what you can expect, or not. I surely miss something, but this is the bulk thing.

Time will say. We won't. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif