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XyZspineZyX
09-07-2003, 02:07 PM
Just curious. Any chance of seeing a AMD 64 optimized FB version in the near future?

Mark

XyZspineZyX
09-07-2003, 02:07 PM
Just curious. Any chance of seeing a AMD 64 optimized FB version in the near future?

Mark

XyZspineZyX
09-07-2003, 02:21 PM
Highly doubtfull, but the Athlon 64 should run FB better than a 32bit Athlon by quite a bit. The game won't run in true 64bit but the system's internal bus is 32bits wider now which means alot.

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Message Edited on 09/07/0308:22AM by Cragger

XyZspineZyX
09-07-2003, 02:35 PM
It looks like it's a very fast cpu. Just read the 'Anandtech' item and it outperforms a dual Xeon at 3 Ghz, but that's still at 32 bits. I'm just curious if Maddox is thinking about going to 64 because XP64 and AMD 64 are on the horizon. I've got the feeling that FB is 'maxed out' and needs more head room for better AI and all the other improvements we like to see.

Anyway, it would be nice to have the so-called 'killer application' for AMD64; it would give me a real reason to buy that sucker immediately ;-)

Mark

XyZspineZyX
09-07-2003, 10:41 PM
64 is the future of computing. Intel will finally realise it needs to make a 64 cpu for desktop use when AMD64s start killing Intel in gaming benchmarks big time around spring next year.

XyZspineZyX
09-08-2003, 01:42 PM
BS.. Intel never dies.. i'm sure they beat AMD64 this time too /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif I bet AMD64 will be a huge disappoinment, since it's release has been delayed and delayed over and over again..

Anyway, it will take some time before we can actually buy one, since they will be very expensive for first months..at that time we are allready playing Forgotten Battles 2005 /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
09-08-2003, 02:01 PM
IA64 has been around for years now. It's on it's 2nd or 3rd generation even.

32bit programs actually run slower on 64bit processors because they have to be thunked. That takes cycles, and as a result, time.

Of course, if the 64bit processor was fast enough, it could overcome that inefficiency and still run it faster than the last 32bit processor you were using.

XyZspineZyX
09-08-2003, 02:56 PM
BlitzPig_DDT wrote:
- IA64 has been around for years now. It's on it's 2nd
- or 3rd generation even.
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- 32bit programs actually run slower on 64bit
- processors because they have to be thunked. That
- takes cycles, and as a result, time.
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There are ways around this built into the new AMD64 with their partnership with MS and also more importantly with the new 64 bit mainstay OS MS is hoping to field.

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XyZspineZyX
09-08-2003, 04:40 PM
Yeah I am bidding my time until the AMD64 comes out, I need an upgrade and may go with a 2500+ to just hold me off until the 64 is more affordable.
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XyZspineZyX
09-08-2003, 07:25 PM
Chipzilla won't die, but that's not what I would like to see. Competition is good and leads most of the time to better and cheaper products. I don't believe AMD 64 will be a huge dissapointment, because all the current 32 bits software runs fine (even faster) and Microsoft supports AMD's new chip with a new 64 bits version of XP.

You 've gotta admit, it's pretty impressive to see a chip with a 1 Ghz lower clock to outperfom a dual 3.06 Ghz Xeon with 1 MB cache. Xeon's are available now and most people can't buy them because they are too expensive. Pentium 4 is nearing it's end because they can't raise the clock any higher. Prescott is near but dissipates over 100 Watts and that's pretty rudiculous for a PC at home. Moreover, it's still 32 bits.

I think Intel will, contrary what ther're saying right now, lauch a 64 Bit chip next year (july/august) for the consumer market. Wanna bet?

Nevermind, I hope Oleg is of the same opinion and suprises us one more time ;-)