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Banger2004
09-20-2005, 06:29 AM
Hi everyone, just back from my bi-annular visit to Chichester UK. Visited a little something called Goodwood Circuit Revival Meeting.

To those of you thinking '?', this is a very popular vintage car race meeting held over 3 days, with cars ranging from early 1910s up to about 1966.

Perhaps more interestingly for you all is the fact that this meeting is held on an old WW2 RAF Airfield, which is largely unaltered (grass strips etc). The owner, The Earl of March thought it would be a good idea to re-instate the motor racing that took place there after the end of WW2, AND TO HAVE VINTAGE AIRCRAFT (particularly WW2 aircraft) FLY FROM THE BASE AND DISPLAY at regular intervals throughout the weekend.

Anyhow, here is the link to some of my photo's taken over the last few days, and I make no apology for the preponderance of Spitfire pictures (it being the aircraft I like to fly online). I do however, apologise for the standard of some of the pics, did'nt realise the camera was set up 'wrong' and got some quite grainy images.......http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

http://photobucket.com/albums/b144/Banger2004/
http://photobucket.com/albums/b144/Banger2004/


Aircraft present included:

Spitfire Mk9
Spitfire Mk8
Curtiss Hawk
Mustang P51C
Mustang P51D
P47
Bearcat
2 Harvards
2 De Havilland Rapide
B17 'Sally B' flypast once a day
Avro Lancaster (+ Spit and Hurricane, BoB Memorial Flight) flypast on Saturday
Vickers Vimy

Not a bad selection for such a small 'satelite' airfield. The displays were brilliant (unfortunately my photography was'nt!!), and the racing superb.

It was my first ever sight of a real B17, and I could not believe how quite she was! Big and very beautiful though!

The Jug was awesome, I will never forget the wonderful sound of it coming in to land over my head and throttling back.

The Hawk was delightful, the pilot displaying with the Mustangs and Spits wonderfully even though he had much less power available.

As for the Merlin Powered aircraft, the sound of those engines (particularly the 6 when BoB MF went over) was pure music.

Not all aircraft were flying, the 2 Harvards and the Bearcat were static until the end, when they flew back to Duxford or where ever home was. The 2 Rapides were doing pleasure flights, and the Vimy was airborne at various times of each day, wowing everyone with its short take off capabilities! With wings that large, I'm surprised it does'nt take off in a strong breeze!<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre"> </pre><pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre"> </pre><pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre"> </pre>

Banger2004
09-20-2005, 06:29 AM
Hi everyone, just back from my bi-annular visit to Chichester UK. Visited a little something called Goodwood Circuit Revival Meeting.

To those of you thinking '?', this is a very popular vintage car race meeting held over 3 days, with cars ranging from early 1910s up to about 1966.

Perhaps more interestingly for you all is the fact that this meeting is held on an old WW2 RAF Airfield, which is largely unaltered (grass strips etc). The owner, The Earl of March thought it would be a good idea to re-instate the motor racing that took place there after the end of WW2, AND TO HAVE VINTAGE AIRCRAFT (particularly WW2 aircraft) FLY FROM THE BASE AND DISPLAY at regular intervals throughout the weekend.

Anyhow, here is the link to some of my photo's taken over the last few days, and I make no apology for the preponderance of Spitfire pictures (it being the aircraft I like to fly online). I do however, apologise for the standard of some of the pics, did'nt realise the camera was set up 'wrong' and got some quite grainy images.......http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

http://photobucket.com/albums/b144/Banger2004/
http://photobucket.com/albums/b144/Banger2004/


Aircraft present included:

Spitfire Mk9
Spitfire Mk8
Curtiss Hawk
Mustang P51C
Mustang P51D
P47
Bearcat
2 Harvards
2 De Havilland Rapide
B17 'Sally B' flypast once a day
Avro Lancaster (+ Spit and Hurricane, BoB Memorial Flight) flypast on Saturday
Vickers Vimy

Not a bad selection for such a small 'satelite' airfield. The displays were brilliant (unfortunately my photography was'nt!!), and the racing superb.

It was my first ever sight of a real B17, and I could not believe how quite she was! Big and very beautiful though!

The Jug was awesome, I will never forget the wonderful sound of it coming in to land over my head and throttling back.

The Hawk was delightful, the pilot displaying with the Mustangs and Spits wonderfully even though he had much less power available.

As for the Merlin Powered aircraft, the sound of those engines (particularly the 6 when BoB MF went over) was pure music.

Not all aircraft were flying, the 2 Harvards and the Bearcat were static until the end, when they flew back to Duxford or where ever home was. The 2 Rapides were doing pleasure flights, and the Vimy was airborne at various times of each day, wowing everyone with its short take off capabilities! With wings that large, I'm surprised it does'nt take off in a strong breeze!<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre"> </pre><pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre"> </pre><pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre"> </pre>

Kuna15
09-20-2005, 06:55 AM
Awesome pictures thanks.

p1ngu666
09-20-2005, 07:31 AM
the goodwood meetings are always great http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
ive been to the other one, years ago, but never the circuit one http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

T_O_A_D
09-20-2005, 08:01 AM
Nice bunch of Pics TY http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

russ.nl
09-20-2005, 09:15 AM
Nice pics m8, thanks for sharing them with us. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Banger2004
09-20-2005, 11:05 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by p1ngu666:
the goodwood meetings are always great http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
ive been to the other one, years ago, but never the circuit one http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

p1ngu666, if you like racing machines (and I suppose you do if you've been to the Festival of Speed)you have got to go. It is one hell of an experience....http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

madsarmy
09-20-2005, 11:13 AM
Thanks for posting http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Low_Flyer_MkII
09-20-2005, 05:42 PM
Thank you very much. Had planned to go, but the friend who was looking forward to it as much as me was suddenly hospitalised. Making plans for next year, inspired by your report.

p1ngu666
09-20-2005, 05:56 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Banger2004:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by p1ngu666:
the goodwood meetings are always great http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
ive been to the other one, years ago, but never the circuit one http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

p1ngu666, if you like racing machines (and I suppose you do if you've been to the Festival of Speed)you have got to go. It is one hell of an experience....http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

purely a matter of money really http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

but old racings cars http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif and prop planes is a intoxicating combo
eye and ear candy http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

when i went they had allen mcnish's porshche, straight from le mans, still dirty http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

wayno7777
09-20-2005, 10:26 PM
Sweet!!!...

ploughman
09-21-2005, 01:47 AM
Nice, thanks very much. Liked the Vimy.

Enforcer572005
09-21-2005, 03:09 AM
Im a photographer by trade, and those are magnificent photos....very well done.

Do you know what the story is on that replica spit mk1 with the 2 bladed prop? Its got the guns in the wrong position......pretty common mistake on such and models. the only actual spit that early still surviving is the prototype. Love the flat canopy.

You guys take note of the VERY small ammo drum on the 20mm. thats why you gotta fire short bursts wiht those things.

Ive never seen that P51C, didnt know one existed outside the two (formerly 3) flying in the US.i can only assume its out of duxford as well.

That Hawk 75 is a recent restoration that is inthe markings it served in during the battle of France....actually saw of combat.im 99% sure it also served in the Vichy AF in Tunisia against the torch landings. Its the only one flying....only about 3 still in existance i believe. Great airborne shots of that.

Stuff like htat is alot less restricted than herein the states. You could never get that close to a landing P51 here. ive done many airshows over the yrs, and i know how tough it is to get such shots. thanks for this.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

HotelBushranger
09-21-2005, 07:05 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif that Hawk 75! Wish it was in Finnish colours though, the pattern looks a lot better http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Banger2004
09-21-2005, 12:35 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Enforcer572005:
Im a photographer by trade, and those are magnificent photos....very well done.

Do you know what the story is on that replica spit mk1 with the 2 bladed prop? Its got the guns in the wrong position......pretty common mistake on such and models. the only actual spit that early still surviving is the prototype. Love the flat canopy.

You guys take note of the VERY small ammo drum on the 20mm. thats why you gotta fire short bursts wiht those things.

Ive never seen that P51C, didnt know one existed outside the two (formerly 3) flying in the US.i can only assume its out of duxford as well.

That Hawk 75 is a recent restoration that is inthe markings it served in during the battle of France....actually saw of combat.im 99% sure it also served in the Vichy AF in Tunisia against the torch landings. Its the only one flying....only about 3 still in existance i believe. Great airborne shots of that.

Stuff like htat is alot less restricted than herein the states. You could never get that close to a landing P51 here. ive done many airshows over the yrs, and i know how tough it is to get such shots. thanks for this.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks for the kind words Enforcer57, my biggest regret was I had my Olympus Digi set on Auto ISO, I almost always use ISO100......http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif, hence very grainy images at times.

Fascinating info about the replica Spit, I did'nt realise about the gun ports, however, I visited the Tangmere Aviation Museum (a few miles up the road from Westhampnett), and they have the pale blue Prototype with flush exhaust ports rather than the stubs we are familiar with. I will try to post the picture, although this is again, a replica.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/Banger2004/Prototype.jpg

Spot on with the Hawk also, the program says:
"The Hawk 'Number 82, which makes it's public debut, was built in Buffalo, New York in December 1938. Part of an order of 100 Hawks for the French Armee de l'air. The aircraft went into service in the summer of 1939 and was the personal fighter of Commandant Murtin with l'ere Escadrille of GC11/5 Lafayette at Toul-Crois-de-Metz.Fought against the Germans in May 1940, but when France capitulated in June, Number 82 and the remains of the original 5 Hawk groups headed to North Africa. Following the Allied victory in North Africa, the Hawks operated under Free French control until the end of the war. Number 82 returned to France as a trainer until being put into long term storage.".

Funny you should say about the landing shots, recently the Civil Aviation Authority have made the Goodwood circuit put in 'no go' areas, over which the aircraft must confine the displays. I appreciate this is for crowd safety, but as you can see in the P51D landing photo, we are allowed to stand on a large bank, probably 20 ft high, and just 250 yds or so from the runway threshold! I swear that Mustang was only about 20-25ft above us. Pretty dangerous when I think about it now, indeed, a few years ago a private Spitfire crashed whilst landing (after clipping the bank we are standing on I believe, although I am not certain).

danjama
09-21-2005, 02:20 PM
That P51C is Princess ELIZABETH, flown by Lt Bill Whisner and finally Lt Robert K Butler in 44, when it was lost on D-Day to flak and he parachuted succesfully and made it to friendly territory before the krauts caught him. It was rebuilt by North American Aviation and now operates from Duxford i believe. The restoration job was second to none, including work on the beautifully done Razor back on this type. It is now owned by The Fighter Collection (TFC). Just thought you'd like to know. I saw it in July at Legends at duxford and its an amazing plane.

*Edit* Thanks for Pics. Nice!

Enforcer572005
09-21-2005, 09:49 PM
wow, great info. I didnt know it existed danjama. Whisner died a few yrs ago from, of all things, a bee sting.

That photo of the spit prototype is great. Thats a replica? man, thats well done. The original prototype is supposed to be ....somewhere, i just dont know where.

The closest i came to being that close to the planes was at the confederate air force shows in Harlengin Tx in 89 and 90....on thurs and fri, the FAA wasnt very prevalant, and photographers and fanatics like me could get riht up to the taxiways, wihch were very close to the runways. i got shots from just a few metres away of everything from B-17s to F-4Ds, F-18s,16s, and F-111s. evrybody was makeing low fast passes as they came into the field, especially the military. was great to see a pair of 51s wiht a P38 and P47 beating thte place up between F16s and 18s doing it. man, its a rush to get that close to these thigns while they are running.

mothyp
09-22-2005, 01:36 AM
Goodwood was called RAF West Hampnett during the war and was a sattelite of RAF Tangmere

here is a aerial photo taken of Goodwood whilst over Tangmere, the museum is small but a great afternoon out
and quite often Nevil Duke is there as hes the patron
http://www.tangmerepilots.co.uk/media/gallery/pictures/Sep14_20.JPG

Mothyp (A Tangmere Pilot)

mothyp
09-22-2005, 01:39 AM
oh and this is a pic of Tangmere airfield

the three white hangars aer original and you can see the museum as a white building on the far left centre of the photo, you can also see the original tower to the right of the three hangars
http://www.tangmerepilots.co.uk/media/gallery/pictures/Sep14_17.JPG

Banger2004
09-22-2005, 03:39 AM
Great info Danjama thanks.

Also nice pictures of the airfields mothyp, aerial photos fascinate me, particularly when you can see what has changed over the years. Shame so much of Tangmere has gone.

For the pictures of aircraft landing I stood at the bottom corner of the circuit (the lowest point of the picture, near to the rectangular gravel trap), named Madgwick Corner. Only the circuit (old perimeter track), a bit of grass and the bank we stood on seperated us from the runway threshold.

leadbaloon
09-22-2005, 04:29 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Enforcer572005:


Do you know what the story is on that replica spit mk1 with the 2 bladed prop? Its got the guns in the wrong position......pretty common mistake on such and models. the only actual spit that early still surviving is the prototype. Love the flat canopy.

You guys take note of the VERY small ammo drum on the 20mm. thats why you gotta fire short bursts wiht those things.

Ive never seen that P51C, didnt know one existed outside the two (formerly 3) flying in the US.i can only assume its out of duxford as well.

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Enforcer - The full story on the Spit prototype is here http://www.supermarine-spitfire.co.uk/k5054.html

I saw the razorback P51 at Flying legends in 2004, it was a work in progress then and was still a really beautiful thing, would love to see it fly.

Thanks for the pictures Banger, really enjoyed looking through them.

leadbaloon
09-22-2005, 04:39 AM
Enforcer - Just realised that your initial comment regarding the Spitfire prototype was about the one in Bangers Goodwood pictures.

If it's the same one, which I'm assuming it is, I saw that at Duxford 2004 too and was told that it was built privately by an enthusiast some years ago (took a few years too). He used to fly it, but a couple of years or so ago when it was having its annual flight worthiness test (don't know the real name for it) the inspector broke its back on landing and the owner simply didn't have the heart or the inclination to go through all it would take to repair it back to an airworthy condition. It's now owned by The History Channel and used to tour airshows.

leadbaloon
09-22-2005, 04:53 AM
Hmmmm. I've just looked through some of my pictures from Duxford 2004 and am not sure whether or not it's even the same replica prototype. The one I saw had different exhaust ports and only two guns in each wing.

I'll just crawl back into my hole and shut my mouth.

Banger2004
09-22-2005, 11:52 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by leadbaloon:
Hmmmm. I've just looked through some of my pictures from Duxford 2004 and am not sure whether or not it's even the same replica prototype. The one I saw had different exhaust ports and only two guns in each wing.

I'll just crawl back into my hole and shut my mouth. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think you have the right one, leadbaloon, the picture was taken at 'The History Channel' display. Thanks for the info.

PBNA-Boosher
09-22-2005, 10:00 PM
OMG OMG OMG! A flying H-75/P-36! God of Aviation we are saved!

SlickStick
09-26-2005, 09:04 PM
Very cool, Banger. Thanks for posting these. Nice large pics and I'm sure I'm going to find a few nice desktops amongst that bunch. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif