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skycaptain_1
12-16-2005, 03:47 AM
~S~ All

I am thinking of getting those CH rudder pedals, but I am wondering are they going to improve my game-play? Or are they just an expensive way to get shot down more often! At the moment I have a twist stick which I have got used to and fly well with.

I like the idea of using pedals but I have to make some personal sacrifice to get them so they can't be relegated to the shelf!!

Thanks

WOLFMondo
12-16-2005, 04:04 AM
Only practice can improve your piloting but they will help allot, especially in precise manouvers and formation flying.

I'll never go back to a twist stick put it that way. Get them if you have the spare cash.

Tully__
12-16-2005, 04:34 AM
You'll either love them or put them in the closet to gather dust. I estimate about 90-95% love them.

JG52_Cyanide
12-16-2005, 04:34 AM
I had the same dilemma some time ago (although I could spare the cash) and decided to buy the same CH pedals.
Took a little while to get used to, but I'll NEVER go back to anything else. Your flying WILL improve over time and your gunnery long range gunnery will see some improvement as well. (very easy to make very small corrections with pedals and the right settings).

Wilburnator
12-16-2005, 05:00 AM
I love 'em.

JG52Uther
12-16-2005, 05:13 AM
Ditto

T_O_A_D
12-16-2005, 05:16 AM
Love them http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

p-11.cAce
12-16-2005, 06:19 AM
Could'nt fly without em http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Bearcat99
12-16-2005, 06:26 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Hawgdog
12-16-2005, 07:15 AM
A must have.
And for you CH owners, go to the website and DL the latest drivers, they have a fix for the toe brake- ITS PROGRESSIVE!!
I can stop in half the time, rarely flip over anymore.

1.JaVA_Hornet
12-16-2005, 07:52 AM
Originally posted by Hawgdog:
A must have.
And for you CH owners, go to the website and DL the latest drivers, they have a fix for the toe brake- ITS PROGRESSIVE!!
I can stop in half the time, rarely flip over anymore.

You are kidding??????????

Otherwise give a link because its impossible
to find it.

shotdownski
12-16-2005, 08:25 AM
I think rudder pedals are indispensable, especially for taking off. They also add to the whole immersion thing.

I built a decent set of rudder pedals from aluminum bar stock, square tubing, plywood, a potentiometer, telephone wire, and assorted nuts and bolts...everything available at a Lowes or Home Depot type store and Radio Shack. I wired (hacked) the pot into my X-45 rocker switch and they work great (there's a web site somewhere that gives a step-by-step on this joystick hack).

The pedals look good, are sturdy, and cost less than $30(US). Someone (baldie?) once posted a method for programing the X-45 rudder axis so differential "toe" braking can be simulated and this also works great. I can actually taxi around with some control now.

Hawgdog
12-16-2005, 08:46 AM
Originally posted by Hawgdog:
A must have.
And for you CH owners, go to the website and DL the latest drivers, they have a fix for the toe brake- ITS PROGRESSIVE!!
I can stop in half the time, rarely flip over anymore.

http://www.chproducts.com/retail/tech_control_manager.html


Throttle Quadrant Axes

As mentioned above, there are 6 axes referenced in the GUI as X, Y, Z, R, U, and V. They are all basically identical. There is a physical detent position slightly ahead of the fully-back position. This is usually used as the actual minimum position, the area behind the detent used to control some other related function such as thrust-reversers or brakes. Due to the presence of the detent and the expected usage of the throttle axes, the settings available and the axis dialogs used for the Throttle Quadrant are different from those for the axes on other CH USB devices. This section talks about the different dialogs the functions that they perform.

skycaptain_1
12-16-2005, 08:47 AM
I guess they're good then! Not one negative reply!

I dont fancy building my own, not unless I go down the whole cockpit thing because once I start building pedals the next thing would be a throttle quadrant and so on.....and so on.

I like the look of the CH ones they look quality and weighty like they would stay where you put them.

I have seen some other makes but they start at 200!!

Beuf_Ninja
12-16-2005, 09:32 AM
Pedals rock, I couldn't imagine how difficult IL2 would be with twist or rocker.

arjisme
12-16-2005, 09:34 AM
The ONLY negative I can say about the CH Pedals is that they are really too narrow. I would much prefer they be wider. However, you get used to it and I wouldn't want to fly w/o rudder pedals!

Regarding toe breaking and the new drivers: I'm confused on this point. What do you mean by progressive? When I toe brake with my pedals, I am pretty sure that I get differing amounts of breaking depending on the pedal position. And I am sure I don't have recent drivers from CH. Have folks not been able to use the toe brakes?

han freak solo
12-16-2005, 11:46 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif

I let my feet overhang the sides to make up for the narrow width.

MLudner
12-16-2005, 12:25 PM
Originally posted by skycaptain_1:
~S~ All

I am thinking of getting those CH rudder pedals, but I am wondering are they going to improve my game-play? Or are they just an expensive way to get shot down more often! At the moment I have a twist stick which I have got used to and fly well with.

I like the idea of using pedals but I have to make some personal sacrifice to get them so they can't be relegated to the shelf!!

Thanks

They helped me immensely. Using twist I keep getting my hand movements confused when trying to use rudder, aileron and elevators at once and without them I am finding hammerhead stalls almost impossible (My old set have broken after 3 years, I will soon replace them). They are well worth getting.

Bearcat99
12-16-2005, 01:22 PM
Try here (http://www.provantage.com/buy-110CHPU-ch-shopping.htm). Best prices I have seen. Very good service.

1.JaVA_Hornet
12-16-2005, 03:14 PM
Originally posted by Hawgdog:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Hawgdog:
A must have.
And for you CH owners, go to the website and DL the latest drivers, they have a fix for the toe brake- ITS PROGRESSIVE!!
I can stop in half the time, rarely flip over anymore.

Thanks Hawgdog!
So just installing the new version and
you feel the difference with braking?

Stigler_9_JG52
12-16-2005, 03:21 PM
IMO, they are indispensible. I just don't understand how people get along without them, or worse, rely on those twisty-toy joysticks to try to get the same response.

If you're serious about flight simming at all, they're must-haves.

Hawgdog
12-16-2005, 03:21 PM
Originally posted by 1.JaVA_Hornet:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hawgdog:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Hawgdog:
A must have.
And for you CH owners, go to the website and DL the latest drivers, they have a fix for the toe brake- ITS PROGRESSIVE!!
I can stop in half the time, rarely flip over anymore.

Thanks Hawgdog!
So just installing the new version and
you feel the difference with braking? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

For me it did. You get in there and calibrate the toe brake sort of

Slechtvalk
12-16-2005, 04:53 PM
Can anyone post their rudder pedals config settings? Still using the default ones but I am sure there is a better setting.

Thanks...

Freelancer-1
12-17-2005, 03:59 AM
1X1=0 65 72 79 86 93 100 100 100 100 100 0...............Roll
1Y1=0 65 72 79 86 93 100 100 100 100 100 0...............Pitch
1Z1=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0..........Throttle
1Z=0 72 78 83 87 93 96 99 100 100 100 0..................Rudder
1RY1=0 1 4 7 13 20 29 40 52 66 81 0......................Trim (roll)
1U1=0 1 2 4 10 14 21 29 37 47 53 10......................Trim (pitch)
1RX1=0 1 4 6 11 16 23 32 42 53 66 0......................Trim (yaw)
1Y=5 0 16 31 49 65 81 94 100 100 100 0...................Brakes

X-52

CH Pedals

skycaptain_1
12-17-2005, 10:22 AM
Thanks for all your reply's, I am a bit more convinced that they will be worth it!

Cheers!

Tallyho1961
12-17-2005, 03:35 PM
Be extremely convinced.