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Merlini.a.f.
12-27-2003, 04:01 PM
i wanted to ask you flyers what would you prefer. an air cooled or a watercooled engine and why? i personally can`t make up my mind.
i think the aircooled engine is less aerodynamic then the watercooled one but generates more power wich makes up for that. it could take more damage. i saw on the discovery chanel how a p47 pilot got 2 pistons literaly "taken out" by a 20mm F.L.A.K. bullet.
and he still got home with the oil-gauge on 0.
but! the watercooled engine is able to store (in it`s coolant) heat so in chase you need to chase an enemy, it can close it`s radiator and be more aerodynamicaly more efficient, therfore achieving a higher top speed. but one bullet in the radiator or the coolant pipes and in a matter of minutes it`s out of the sky with the engine glowing red. so i wanted your oppinion about this issue and feel free to correct me on this....thanks a milion....



Out of sight........P47 B&Z......

Merlini.a.f.
12-27-2003, 04:01 PM
i wanted to ask you flyers what would you prefer. an air cooled or a watercooled engine and why? i personally can`t make up my mind.
i think the aircooled engine is less aerodynamic then the watercooled one but generates more power wich makes up for that. it could take more damage. i saw on the discovery chanel how a p47 pilot got 2 pistons literaly "taken out" by a 20mm F.L.A.K. bullet.
and he still got home with the oil-gauge on 0.
but! the watercooled engine is able to store (in it`s coolant) heat so in chase you need to chase an enemy, it can close it`s radiator and be more aerodynamicaly more efficient, therfore achieving a higher top speed. but one bullet in the radiator or the coolant pipes and in a matter of minutes it`s out of the sky with the engine glowing red. so i wanted your oppinion about this issue and feel free to correct me on this....thanks a milion....



Out of sight........P47 B&Z......

p1ngu666
12-27-2003, 04:15 PM
hmm, i dunno
but merlin/griffon and the p47's engine
great sound, and overboosting hax http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Korolov
12-27-2003, 04:23 PM
Dual liquid cooled engines. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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ohadbx
12-27-2003, 04:46 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>. i saw on the discovery chanel how a p47 pilot got 2 pistons literaly "taken out" by a 20mm F.L.A.K. bullet.
and he still got home with the oil-gauge on 0.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
i thought the jug was water-cooled... ???

Merlini.a.f.
12-27-2003, 04:53 PM
nope thrust me the thunderbolt is aircooled http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

DONB3397
12-27-2003, 07:15 PM
Good question. Pilots in the 56th FG flew jugs (radial), then transitioned to P-51s. If you took the question of range out of the discussion, many of them preferred the radial for toughness, reliability...especially for ground attacks. The allies lost too many pilots when the P-51 got low enough to take small caliber hits.

In FB, these characteristics seem to be modeled reasonably well. I like the jug (or the 190) for low level action, but in-line fighters for escort, intercept, etc. As Yeager said,"I want the one that kills best with the least risk to me."

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SkyChimp
12-27-2003, 07:31 PM
The 56th FG kept their Jugs throughout WWII. They transitioned to the high-speed P-47M late in the war, and did not got to the P-51H until after the close of WWII (then quickly to the P-80).

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necrobaron
12-27-2003, 07:39 PM
I prefer air-cooled. Tougher and more reliable...

DONB3397
12-27-2003, 08:13 PM
Chimp, you're right. Meant to say 356th FG, not the 56th. See url below. Thanks for the correction.

http://www.littlefriends.co.uk/356thfg.jsp?offset=500

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TgD Thunderbolt56
12-27-2003, 09:50 PM
I like the toughness...and the sound of the big radials.



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Rajvosa
12-29-2003, 12:47 AM
Rolls-Royce Griffon + Spitfire = Spit Mk XIVE

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Platypus_1.JaVA
12-29-2003, 02:24 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ohadbx:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>. i saw on the discovery chanel how a p47 pilot got 2 pistons literaly "taken out" by a 20mm F.L.A.K. bullet.
and he still got home with the oil-gauge on 0.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
i thought the jug was water-cooled... ???<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

When you push the throttle above 99% in the FB P-47, a few drops of water is injected into the cillinders. This is for cooling and to add a bit more power, since water has a greater mass then fuel. The Harrier Jump-jet has also an option for injecting water.

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DaBallz
12-29-2003, 04:13 AM
"A water cooled aircraft makes as much sense an an air cooled submarine."

Sorry, I forget whom to credit the quote to.

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CARBONFREEZE
12-29-2003, 04:57 AM
Give me a Pratt & Whitney R-xxxx or a BMW 801 =)

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VW-IceFire
12-29-2003, 09:10 AM
Merlin/Griffon any day http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I'll take the vulnerability and enjoy the sound and power http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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