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Jasko76
07-04-2005, 04:14 PM
Another good site is gone http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Where is this going?

Atomic_Marten
07-04-2005, 04:22 PM
Yeah. It is gone for good, it appears.

Taylortony
07-04-2005, 04:46 PM
Nooo http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif I had asked for all my skins to be removed earlier after the things that have gone on of late and ceased skinning this afternoon over those issues, deleted several new templates like the Tempest and cancelled a lot of skins in hand i intended to complete before i stopped.. The abuse was getting to me for trying to protect my work.... I would suggest you read some of the posts of late over in the skinning forums they are not nice......... I16Fan has I believe has quit skinning too for similar reasons

BUT Please, Please, do not do this Serval.... don't do this too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Low_Flyer_MkII
07-04-2005, 04:50 PM
Just been there, seems o.k. to me.

LStarosta
07-04-2005, 04:56 PM
Maybe now people can learn to skin for themselves, eh?

Taylortony
07-04-2005, 06:30 PM
LStarosta

But by using templates and markings etc from the likes of SkinnersHeaven, this taught them how to go about skinning, far more than 20 pages of text ever would, it let you see how a skin is formatted quickly and simply allowing one the opportunity to see results in a short period of time whilst giving one satisafaction and enticing them into producing more of their own work..

Grisha7
07-04-2005, 06:35 PM
Just checked Skinners Heaven and all seems ok. Maybe it was just down temporarily...

hobnail
07-04-2005, 07:31 PM
Blank white page saying:

I am really sorry for all who hope to find something usefull here.
Due to the events I've been part of lately I came to the conclusion that this whole skinning thing got me into something I don't want to be part of. I decided to do something I hope to give me some more fun.

*sigh*

Grisha7
07-04-2005, 08:08 PM
Are we all talking about the same website??? Just checked again and it's still there. No blank white screens, all appears normal. This is getting wierd. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

goshikisen
07-04-2005, 08:20 PM
I don't know what's worse... the idiots who stole the work in the first place or the skinners who've gotten themselves whipped into a frenzy over principle.

Sometimes you can take a stand like this and end up punishing the wrong people. Dwell on the negative long enough and you end up blind to the vast majority who think your work is outstanding and appreciate your effort.

Please reconsider these rather drastic measures.

Regards, Goshikisen.

hairog36
07-04-2005, 08:42 PM
Just checked it out and it appears its gone. Too bad. I hope things cool down and people take a second look at what they did or didn't do.

Atomic_Marten
07-04-2005, 08:46 PM
Originally posted by goshikisen:
I don't know what's worse... the idiots who stole the work in the first place or the skinners who've gotten themselves whipped into a frenzy over principle.

Sometimes you can take a stand like this and end up punishing the wrong people. Dwell on the negative long enough and you end up blind to the vast majority who think your work is outstanding and appreciate your effort.

Please reconsider these rather drastic measures.

Regards, Goshikisen.

Hey Gosh, what is it all about? Is someone copied the skins and reworked it without giving the credit to the author, or what?

I'm really underinformed here. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

wayno7777
07-04-2005, 09:25 PM
Just got the white page. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

han freak solo
07-04-2005, 09:53 PM
That just flat sucks!! I'm a big fan!! Sorry to see it go.

I hope something gets worked out.

buglord
07-04-2005, 10:32 PM
well ive just been there ppl nothing wrong with it , its business as usual. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
http://server3.uploadit.org/files/mrbuglord-myheader1.jpg

WarWolfe_1
07-04-2005, 10:43 PM
Are you sure it was herehttp://www.skinnersheaven.com/?

-HH- Beebop
07-05-2005, 01:41 AM
Originally posted by Jasko76:
Another good site is gone http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Where is this going?
To quote Tom Wolfe...."...sliding down the behavioral sink."
This is REALLY sad. First il2skins, now SH.

and LStarosta;
"Maybe now people can learn to skin for themselves, eh?"

What TaylorTony said but I'd like to add, don't be so snide! Maybe when this game goes away you can code us a new one, EH? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

Dimensionaut_
07-05-2005, 02:10 AM
OK, A small explaination here:

The site was closed temporary some weeks ago. There were some problems back then. It appeared to be less serious than it looked, but never the less that case is running.

I've lost my fun in skinning and think it is better for me to turn toward other things I am working on that give me some more joy at the moment.

Beside that the matters around the site are now starting to cause tensions at home. I do not think it is worth all that.

hunhunter-texas
07-05-2005, 04:39 AM
Good luck with whatever you do Serval. Thanks for your efforts and keep in touch.
Cheers
HH

woofiedog
07-05-2005, 05:11 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif I'm Very Sadden that Skinners Heaven left!
I want to Thank Skinners Heaven for the the service it gave us while it was up and running...
And I Hope You the Best in what You do Next!
Thank's

F19_Olli72
07-05-2005, 06:31 AM
Sad to hear, but thanks for your efforts Serval! Im one of those who learned to make skins from your site http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

AH_Gonzo
07-05-2005, 06:42 AM
Sad to hear, but thanks for your efforts Serval! Im one of those who learned to make skins from your site

I have to agree. Working with the templates and articles on that site is how I learned how to skin. Thanks for the time and effort you put into Serval. Good luck to you in all that you do.

TgD Thunderbolt56
07-05-2005, 06:54 AM
I'm a skinning idiot. Luckily I have some very good friends who are real "aces" in the art. On a selfish note, I got to the point of DL'ing any skins I saw over the last 3-4 months and have a decent library now.

For the most part, they'll have to do me. Sorry to see these things happen, but I can certainly understand the mentality when it stops being fun or the home-front becomes a little hostile. Such is life. I hope most will see how this escalates and wish they appreciated it more while we still had it instead of after it's gone.


TB

Hawgdog
07-05-2005, 06:55 AM
Not sure what the hell happened, or why it was yanked, I'm guessing someone stole skins? Non-trademark protected virtual internet property or something else.
I didnt see any of the fantastic skinners from a couple of years ago, just new names.
Rare is the server that allows skin downloads, so its only natural it died off. Too bad. I think I had some P.11 skins there- like anyone flies that anymore.

han freak solo
07-05-2005, 06:59 AM
Originally posted by Serval_1JaVA:
Beside that the matters around the site are now starting to cause tensions at home. I do not think it is worth all that.

You gotta do what's important to your home life. Thanks for all the work!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

KarayaEine
07-05-2005, 07:23 AM
Boo Hoo! Another kiddie decided to take his toys and leave.

Sounds like one of my 7 year olds..........

Johann

han freak solo
07-05-2005, 07:40 AM
Originally posted by KarayaEine:
Boo Hoo! Another kiddie decided to take his toys and leave.

Sounds like one of my 7 year olds..........

Johann

Nice assumption. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif Did you not read his post?

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Serval_1JaVA - "OK, A small explaination here:

The site was closed temporary some weeks ago. There were some problems back then. It appeared to be less serious than it looked, but never the less that case is running.

I've lost my fun in skinning and think it is better for me to turn toward other things I am working on that give me some more joy at the moment.

Beside that the matters around the site are now starting to cause tensions at home. I do not think it is worth all that."

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Even if what you assume is the underlying "final straw", so what? Let him be.

Capt._Tenneal
07-05-2005, 08:11 AM
Well, I wish all these guys leaving the best of luck, but I will continue to support the guys who DO remain and let us see and use the product of their talent. There are still a lot of good ones out there, folks. Let's all give them our support. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Wallstein
07-05-2005, 08:43 AM
This is very sad. I also want to thank all the skinners who´s work I have so much enjoyed during the past several years. Hope to see you again sharing your splendid work with the rest of us.

LeOs.K_Wallstein

LStarosta
07-05-2005, 08:53 AM
Originally posted by Taylortony:
LStarosta

But by using templates and markings etc from the likes of SkinnersHeaven, this taught them how to go about skinning, far more than 20 pages of text ever would, it let you see how a skin is formatted quickly and simply allowing one the opportunity to see results in a short period of time whilst giving one satisafaction and enticing them into producing more of their own work..

I agree. I remember the first time I made a decent looking skin completely from a void. It was a nice accomplishment, thats for sure.

Dimensionaut_
07-05-2005, 09:35 AM
Originally posted by KarayaEine:
Boo Hoo! Another kiddie decided to take his toys and leave.

Sounds like one of my 7 year olds..........

Johann

YOU are one of these sick morons who spoils it for everyone!

buglord
07-05-2005, 11:32 AM
Its a sad day but thanks for all your time & efforts over the years all us skinners cant thank you enough ,good luck to whatever you do next S~ & THANKYOU java.
http://server3.uploadit.org/files/mrbuglord-myheader1.jpg

KarayaEine
07-05-2005, 11:57 AM
Originally posted by Serval_1JaVA:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KarayaEine:
Boo Hoo! Another kiddie decided to take his toys and leave.

Sounds like one of my 7 year olds..........

Johann

YOU are one of these sick morons who spoils it for everyone! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
So I'm a sick moron for pointing out the obvious? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

That's good. Considering I've never used your skins or could care less about them. If you want to skin or if you don't want to skin really doesn't matter. If you got a beef with those that rip off your work then take it up with them via PM or email. But the minute you put it in the public forum and open the topic up for discussion then be prepared for the consequenses.

Trying to rationalize anything with you is like trying to wrestle with a pig; no one wins, you both get dirty and the pig loves it.

Johann (sick moron extrodanaire!)

YAKMAN1968
07-05-2005, 11:59 AM
Tis a sad day indeed, Thank you for all your hard work over the years, I must of been to your site 2 times a day for 2 years looking @ stuff. You can be proud of the work you've done to help the skinning comunity over the years. As for the turds giving you a hard time.... tell em they can kiss my ***.

-HH- Beebop
07-05-2005, 12:10 PM
KarayaEine;

You just don't get it do you?
("Considering I've never used your skins or could care less about them.")
Why are you even posting here then? What's it to you?
Oh, wait, I get it! You're an A******.

Serval, thanks for the ride. It was sweet. Good luck in your future endeavors.

Dimensionaut_
07-05-2005, 12:14 PM
Originally posted by KarayaEine:

Trying to rationalize anything with you is like trying to wrestle with a pig; no one wins, you both get dirty and the pig loves it.

Johann (sick moron extrodanaire!)

I have read nothing rational from you inhere in the first place. So, who's the pig?

Well, overhere we say "you never get overrun by a coach, but allways by a car filled with ****".
That's what's going on overhere.

Taylortony
07-05-2005, 12:19 PM
Serval leave it, he is beneath your dignity.......

Grisha7
07-05-2005, 12:27 PM
Good luck Serval and thanks for providing the skinning community with such valuable help. You are entitled to take a breather and concentrate on other things in your life. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Huckebein_UK
07-05-2005, 12:53 PM
Good luck Serval, mate. I will sorely miss your site... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Keep in touch won't you, and I suggest you just ignore, completely, people who abuse you. I know I wouldn't give them the time of day. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

GerritJ9
07-05-2005, 02:12 PM
Serval, thank you for your efforts in creating the site and all the skins on it, plus hosting skins made by others. Sorry the site is gone now, but that's life. If it's any consolation, I have your KNIL Hurricane skins and love them http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Jasko76
07-05-2005, 02:13 PM
Originally posted by KarayaEine:
...But the minute you put it in the public forum and open the topic up for discussion then be prepared for the consequenses.

Johann (sick moron extrodanaire!)

Actually, I opened up this topic, to express my sadness over another fine site being closed. Then you come around and poop on it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Why?

hotspace
07-05-2005, 02:27 PM
I'm sorry to hear about the demise of Skinners Heaven m8 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif I alway's remember you 1st when you popped in every once in awhile at IL2Skins - Alway's willing to help http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

SH was alway's a great site and will be (as you will) be sorely missed m8.....

Hot Space

CapBackassward
07-05-2005, 02:41 PM
Major bummer. Although I can't find the time for skinning, I have enjoyed the fruits of your(SkinnersHeaven) labor. Salute... and may things turn-out OK for you.

Rick

-HH-Quazi
07-05-2005, 02:52 PM
Originally posted by KarayaEine:
Boo Hoo! Another kiddie decided to take his toys and leave.

Sounds like one of my 7 year olds..........

Johann

It's sentiments like this that is tearing the skinning community to pieces. The community appreciates your efforts to help the rest of the rogue thieves muck it up for they rest of us. This is sad times for those here that like to fly historical skins. And it's attitudes like yours that is fueling its' demise.