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XyZspineZyX
07-29-2003, 11:36 PM
Update to Post:

According to all posts below, this behavior is correct. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif



Original Post:

At a certain speed obtained in a nose-down attitude, the controls stop responding (compression), and some serious negative Gs start to occur.

Although you can't pull out, you can push out by applying full forward elevator and outside-loop to recover.

I'm sure this is incorrect.



Message Edited on 07/30/0308:49AM by tolwyn.com

XyZspineZyX
07-29-2003, 11:36 PM
Update to Post:

According to all posts below, this behavior is correct. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif



Original Post:

At a certain speed obtained in a nose-down attitude, the controls stop responding (compression), and some serious negative Gs start to occur.

Although you can't pull out, you can push out by applying full forward elevator and outside-loop to recover.

I'm sure this is incorrect.



Message Edited on 07/30/0308:49AM by tolwyn.com

XyZspineZyX
07-29-2003, 11:42 PM
Has always been the same tolwyn - since Bi-1 was introduced. IIRC at the time the dev team said it did this in real life?

No idea if it did or not myself /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 12:16 AM
tolwyn.com wrote:
- At a certain speed obtained in a nose-down attitude,
- the controls stop responding (compression), and some
- serious negative Gs start to occur.
-
- Although you can't pull out, you can push out by
- applying full forward elevator and outside-loop to
- recover.
-
- I'm sure this is incorrect.
-----------------------------------

It IS correct.

That's how Bi-1 test pilot G.Y.Bakhchivandzhi
lost his life (March 27 1943).

XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 12:42 AM
It is correct. This effect is called "aerodynamical shadow". When the horizontal stabilizer kind of getting in the "shadow" of airflow from wings, the plane looses control on pitch axis.. This happened not only with BI-1 but also with other early jet fighters.

XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 01:10 AM
my problem is with its durability. it seems no matter how fast you go, it won't be damaged at all. to me this does not seem realistic.

XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 01:37 AM
Timmothias wrote:
- my problem is with its durability. it seems no
- matter how fast you go, it won't be damaged at all.
- to me this does not seem realistic.
-
-

It was built to go fast. It has stubby wings, simple control surfaces. Add to that you can't hit extreme speeds at lower altitudes due to the "duck under".

I just slap my X-1 "Glamorous Glennis" skin on it and play out my Chuck Yaeger fantasies.

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XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 02:58 AM
hobnail wrote:
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- Timmothias wrote:
-- my problem is with its durability. it seems no
-- matter how fast you go, it won't be damaged at all.
-- to me this does not seem realistic.

That may be true, but nosing into the ground a 800kph seems like a pretty serious durability issue.

I think that is how one of the planes test pilots bought it during a high speed horizontal flight test.



Message Edited on 07/29/0308:21PM by Clay.Pigeon

XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 03:38 AM
That thing where is planes just goes out of control nose down is realistic, is a good feature that havent beeen implanted to all aircraft when they shuld, i hope they do in the patch

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XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 04:07 PM
hobnail wrote:
- I just slap my X-1 "Glamorous Glennis" skin on it
- and play out my Chuck Yaeger fantasies.

And no screenie or link to where we can borrow it from!

What a grand idea - Salute to you, sir!