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ElAurens
01-31-2005, 05:17 AM
Over the weekend I flew in the Zeke vs. Wildcat server on HL. Whilst flying cover over the Imperial Fleet a hapless SBD was hit and ditched near the fleet. All pretty normal stuff, until I saw a torpedo in the water!

One of the escorting destroyers must have launched a torpedo at the floating SBD!!!! There is no other explanation for it. No torpedo capable aircraft were available in the server. I watched the torp track straight from a Japanese DD towards the ditched Dauntless, but, the pilot hit "refly" before the torp could do it's worst.

Now I have to find out if Japanese (or other) destroyers will launch torpedos at shipping. What a great scenario for a co-op. A Japanese destroyer floatilla making a torpedo attack on an Allied convoy at high speed, while USAAF A20s and RAAF Beaufighters defend.

SaQSoN
01-31-2005, 05:23 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Now I have to find out if Japanese (or other) destroyers will launch torpedos at shipping. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

They will, be sure. However, the distance, from which they will do so may be not quite historical.

Tooz_69GIAP
01-31-2005, 05:29 AM
I've seen torps being launched from both US and IJN vessels from up to 15km away in a coop!!!

ImpStarDuece
01-31-2005, 05:40 AM
the Japanese had some of the worlds best torpedoes in the world at the outbreak of the war.

Oxygen powered, 55+ knots capable, 30 000 yards range. The name was something like "Long Lance" which was VERY well deserved. They out paced and out ranged most other torpedoes by 50% and gave the JApanese DDs an incredibly effective role early in the war.

Other strange things with torpedoes. There are several reported cases of Japanese pilots spotting wakes from torps heading for their carriers and crashing their fighter, bomber, scout plane or whatever directly into the path of the torpedo with predictibaly fatal results. Amazing stuff! Most of these occured before Kamikaze had become a recognised tactic for the IJN and IJA

Hoatee
01-31-2005, 05:41 AM
Torpedos definitely launch from ships against other ships - been a part of IL2 so I should imagine USA/Japanese vessels are capable of same.

An easier way to test this is to use the Full Mission Editor. The victim vessel needs to be set up as target for the vessel that is to fire the torpedo.

Blackdog5555
01-31-2005, 09:53 AM
Yes, ive read that US planes would circle ships looking for torpedo wakes to shoot the torpedos before they struck, (of course before). would be a fun mission.

Yimmy
01-31-2005, 11:02 AM
So, if you place two enemy ships close enough, will they engage wach other with their guns?

icrash
01-31-2005, 11:10 AM
@ Yimmy: Yes they will. Depending on numbers & types, you may have to start near them to watch the show unless you use static cameras stationed around the fight. I tried this out, but by the time I took off & got to the ships, it was all over. On a mission, I've been shot at by the ships while they were just tiny dots in that couldn't be seen unless zoomeed all the way in. They start with the biggest guns and work down as you get closer.

unseen84
01-31-2005, 12:49 PM
I remember one time when I flew an FMB mission that I did where Vals attack an American carrier. Towards the end, one of the CV's escorts, the CA Indianapolis, started firing its main armament at a ditched Val from a pretty long range. It didn't score any hits, but it was quite strange to see all these huge shell splashes all around the ditched plane.

dcunning30
01-31-2005, 01:02 PM
firing main batteries at a ditched plane is some odd ai. however, an interesting footnote in history is the yamato and musashi's main batteries of 18" guns had some special shells designed to be fired against attacking aircraft. however, using these shells too much ruined the barrels of the 18" guns. these were used to no effect by the musashi at the battle of sibuyan sea and by yamato during it's fatal one-way sortie against the americans at okanawa.

EnGaurde
01-31-2005, 01:52 PM
18 inch shells at aircraft?

if it did hit or detonate anywhere near, it would put a serious smack dab on any aircrafts a$$ unlucky enough to be near.

tight formation?

bye now...

Yimmy
01-31-2005, 01:55 PM
I think the most common practice for using the main armament against aircraft was to fire the shells into the water in the aircrafts path, to throw up spray to do in torpedo aircraft.

MPD496
01-31-2005, 03:19 PM
they should of made a big a$$ shotgun shell to put in the 18" guns. It would be like bird hunting!!!!!!!

EmbarkChief
01-31-2005, 03:31 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MPD496:
they should of made a big a$$ shotgun shell to put in the 18" guns. It would be like bird hunting!!!!!!! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

My thoughts exactly.

CRSutton
01-31-2005, 04:04 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MPD496:
they should of made a big a$$ shotgun shell to put in the 18" guns. It would be like bird hunting!!!!!!! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That is pretty much what the shells were. They were a desperation measure and were designed to be used only in extreme momements as they would ruin the barrel linings after a few shots. I believed they acutally were used but with no results to show for the effort.