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TheGozr
12-26-2007, 12:18 AM
Well I have been testing those two cards and really the 7950 GX2 kill the 8800 on il2 and FSX at 1600x1200.
the Gx2 must only have the 92.91 version driver with a touchup profile and the 8800 with the latest driver.. Gx2 must be on force split image.

stansdds
12-26-2007, 04:13 AM
The better results with the 7950GX2 is likely due to your high screen resolution. Drop it down to 1024x768 and the 8800GT may take the top honors.

Manos1
12-26-2007, 04:59 AM
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Thanks for posting this GOZR
(actually, I have not heard anything from you for a long time... Merry Christmas and all the best for 2008!) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

As stansdds mentions, the higher the resolution, the better the GX2 is.

I still have one PC with the 7950GX2 and upgraded the other straight to two 8800GTX since this is the card which can handle very high resolutions (3072x768).

You need to PM me your IL2FB profile and nhancer profile one day...

I run NGO9792 drivers on both machines. Very good quality but heavy fps impact.

Which one are you using for the 8800? And how is the quality? Flying full real flashing textures are a bad thing...

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~S~

Chivas
12-26-2007, 10:57 AM
I've wanted to upgrade my 7900GTX to a DX10 card for awhile but the 8800GTX doesn't have a significant enough advantage. I'll wait for the next generation of video cards.

Kauzio
12-26-2007, 11:21 AM
Originally posted by Chivas:
I've wanted to upgrade my 7900GTX to a DX10 card for awhile but the 8800GTX doesn't have a significant enough advantage. I'll wait for the next generation of video cards.

Hmm, it's probably about 30% faster than your card, based on some quick research. Which makes a difference on the latest games only really, or at high resolutions.

The original poster's card is a 7950 GX2 which AFAIK is a dual gpu card, which probably explains his findings - it'll be able to handle high resolutions better than the 8800 GT as it can render half the number of pixels on each gpu(although I'm not sure I believe that it 'kills' the 8800GT but I may be wrong:P)

It's probably closer between the 8800 GTX because that's pretty damn fast at high resolutions.

Also of note is the fact the GX2 is pretty expensive and unavailable (couldn't find it on the major websites)

Chivas
12-26-2007, 05:46 PM
There is practically no difference in frame rates at the 1024x768 resolution I run on-line in IL-2.
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/nvidia_geforce_8800...ng/images/pf1280.gif (http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/nvidia_geforce_8800_gtx_gts_overclocking/images/pf1280.gif)

TheGozr
12-26-2007, 05:53 PM
Sry but 1024x768 wont do for me.. And Chivas think about what make the difference and why..

The GTX and Ultra are the good choices the price too ... Arg!!.

Since now on do not believe completely what some sites tests results, marketing have a great influences.
8800's will run great new games like COD4 or Crysis.

I believe in my tests for what I use the most.

Kauzio
12-26-2007, 06:15 PM
I'd say the 8800 GT is a good choice for the price.

That link was actually 1280x1024 rather than 1024x768.

1280x is pretty much my minimum gaming resolution, I agree with you Gozr having 1600x1200 or 1680x1050 is so much nicer.

1280x looks decent with high antialiasing though.

^on a 22" widescreen

TheGozr
12-26-2007, 06:23 PM
22" same here CRT.

Choctaw111
12-26-2007, 09:04 PM
I have run many tests on my 8800GTX SLI both in SLI and non SLI. Running in SLI yields remarkable performance, even at 1920x1200 4xAA, 16xAF, perfect settings, water=3 etc. Gozr and I have exchanged info in many other threads regarding our findings in this matter. Does the 7950GX2 really outperform the 8800GTX in SLI for Il2 or is it just ONE 8800 card? Running the BlackDeath and Kamikaze I get about 80 FPS for average. I cannot remember the exact numbers. I will have to find them.

Chivas
12-26-2007, 09:05 PM
I have a MultiSync FP2141sb that I can run at very high resolutions, but my point is on-line I have to fly at lower resolutions to see the dots. There is no point in my getting a 8800GTX to fly at 1024X768 for no frame increase.

Kauzio...Its obvious the link was at 1280x1024 so there would be even less of a frame rate difference at 1024x768 8xAA 16xAF.

Intel 6850@ 3.8gigs
4gigs of Corsair DDR2-1066 PC8500 5-5-5-15
Nvidia 7900GTX ....waiting for next generation
MultiSync FP2141sb
MSFF2
Cougar Throttle
Saitek Pro Rudders
Voice Activation Control

TheGozr
12-26-2007, 09:22 PM
No If you go at a lower rez the 7950 GX2 wont best perform. lower you go better for single card is also more CPU work and less GPU you need to find a good balance for the GPU&CPU. I don't know much about the GTX but to me even been an just a bit older card it should be the best of the bunch due to it's 768 MB as well the ULTRA but those are double in prices.

You can see this typical example on FSX which requier lots of CPU power but also video ram to load all those textures. The GX2 just completely obliterate the 8800 GT, GTS at 1600x1200 or even at one notch lower res 1280x1024. Now a 8800GT 92 SLI would be an other matter.
I can go much higher FPS with the GX2 on il2 if you have the CPU do back it up.
I just did the comparo under Lockon and I have the same result.. with the 92.91 and 7950 gx2 Crysis wont even run and COD4 run great .
It's a matter of choice.
Since I fly Lockon, FSX maybe COD4 if time can be managed but wont play Crysis ( no interest ) so to me i'm going back to GX2 and see what i can do with the 8800 GT 92 card.

BTW Chivas try to run at list il2 under 1152x864 res that will give you a minimum loss for dots but a huge gain in beauty..

Chivas
12-26-2007, 09:51 PM
I understand that Gozr...I fly at 2048X1536x32@85hz off-line. I fly mostly at 800X600 8XAA 16XAF online to pick up the dots sooner. Lose sight lose the fight.

I get great frames at 2048X1536 in IL-2 and BOB WOV. I was thinking of picking up a DX10 to see if FSX has improved any, but its not worth it for me at this time. Maybe the next generaion card will be the ticket, even for SOW if I pump up my processor to 4 gigs.

Intel 6850 @3.8gig
4gigs of Corsair DDR2-1066 PC 8500
Nvidia 7900GTX
Multisync FP2141SB
MSFF2
Cougar Throttle
Saitek Pro Rudder pedals
Voice Activation Controls

TheGozr
12-26-2007, 11:01 PM
Chivas try 4 x aa and 4x or even 8x aniso and 1152x864 ... Ovoid too much aa it will make dot and angle fussy.

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stansdds
12-27-2007, 03:50 AM
The 7950 GX2 will soon lose it's spot as a single slot SLI solution. Nvidia has announced a 9800 GX2! It will be out in 2008.

TgD Thunderbolt56
12-27-2007, 07:04 AM
Well, as great as my 7950GX2 has been, I'd strongly consider a 9800 version of the same.

I've been eyeballing the current generation of G92's (primarily the 8800GTS 512) for upgrade purposes, but just can't yet justify it even though the prices are very tempting. I'm still gonna wait until late January or even February to see what transpires as I'll still be in IL2 then and my current system runs it great.