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xTHRUDx
11-06-2009, 12:14 AM
wow, no one posted this news yet?

ok , guess i will

http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/n...C-Only-Wings-Of-Prey (http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/51231/IL-2-Sturmovik-Birds-Of-Prey-Dev-Announces-PC-Only-Wings-Of-Prey)



Those lamenting the lack of a PC port for Gaijin Entertainment's well-received IL-2 Sturmovik: Birds Of Prey need no longer be sad, for the developer has announced a PC-exclusive combat flight sim called Wings Of Prey, which sounds very much like an enhanced port, sans the IL-2 name, right down to Jeremy Soule's musical accompaniment:

"Wings of Prey" is based around the large-scale aerial combat and ground military operations of World War II. Players can participate in some of the war’s most famous battles piloting fighters, battle planes and bombers across a range of thrilling missions. There are six theatres of war to engage in – The Battle of Britain, Stalingrad, Ardennes, Berlin, Sicily and Korsun' representing the main airborne battles of World War II in Europe.
“Wings of Prey” also boasts an all new damage effects engine as well as advanced environmental visuals enriching the game play. “Wings of Prey” features hundreds of airplanes taking part in air battles. The unique environmental engine also produces highly detailed, realistic landscapes that allow players to see breathtaking ground support actions.

Game Features:


Authentic World War atmosphere: Cutting edge technologies with highly detailed visuals bring the epic battles to life;
Engage in more than 50 missions from famous historical battles over Eastern and Western Europe;
Historically accurate aircrafts: Experience over 40 planes including fighters, battle planes and bombers. Learn to master Spitfire, Mustang, Messerschmitt and many more;
Flexible difficulty level system: from arcade to realistic simulation;
Downloadable content support: more planes and missions are coming next year;
Support of 6-DOF TrackIR, TripleHead2Go, Saitek and Thrustmaster joysticks, mouse and voice headsets;
Thrilling multiplayer: 4 game modes to choose; VoIP, lobby game system, leaderboards, friends lists, join-in-progress and host migration features provide great experience;
Realistic sound effects and original music from Jeremy Soule

Extreme_One
11-06-2009, 12:47 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

http://www.airwargame.com/ <- Official site

doraemil
11-06-2009, 12:50 AM
Historically accurate aircrafts

This game is a must for the childrens

Wow, that's news! thanks for posting . . .


It'll probably require a beast of a PC . . . But can't wait to see what the specs would be and if I can run it . . .


I wonder how customer support and internet capability will be like. And will this get the same love that IL-2 1946 is getting?


I notice they said "Sans IL-2 name" because Oleg didn't back it?


I notice on the video you can recognize the IL-2 damage pattern (on the salamander) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

jeffmorgan_947
11-06-2009, 01:55 AM
Any idea when this would be ready for purchase? It could be something of a substitute for Christmas,seeing that SOW is not going to be ready until sometime in 2010?....Cheers. JM.

knightflyte
11-06-2009, 02:03 AM
Dec 29, 2009. At least that's what the liner notes said under the preview video.

So Youplay got the publishing rights instead of 777 Studios? (I'm assuming it's the same project he informally announced) That's too bad. Wish that Jason was able to secure them.

I'd be interested in hearing the difference in the PC verses 360 versions. I may pick it up just for the eye candy.

Feathered_IV
11-06-2009, 03:51 AM
Wings of Prey is an odd sort of nonsense phrase that makes no real sense in English. Is this another Russian developer?

Choctaw111
11-06-2009, 04:33 AM
Well, I know many people who wanted to see this for PC, myself included.
I am very happy to hear about this.

Metatron_123
11-06-2009, 04:41 AM
Me too. It will hopefully have at least some of the diversity and realism of IL-2 with flashy graphics. This is good news!

stalkervision
11-06-2009, 07:24 AM
I would wait for the reviews before I got one. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Uufflakke
11-06-2009, 07:28 AM
Originally posted by stalkervision:
I would wait for the reviews before I got one. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

And also wanna know the required PC specs.
Wings of Preya as a slideshow... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif

stalkervision
11-06-2009, 07:41 AM
Originally posted by Uufflakke:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stalkervision:
I would wait for the reviews before I got one. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

And also wanna know the required PC specs.
Wings of Preya as a slideshow... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

that too buddy. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

SeaFireLIV
11-06-2009, 07:43 AM
I can see this being a good start point for new guys to flight sims with PCs, but those of us who already have IL2, i`m not sure of the point.

My friend bought the Xbox version due to my recommendation, so I`ve seen it. Nice graphics but that`s it, although, that said, Realistic on the Xbox is actually quite close to the full real difficulty on IL2. I gave it a try to show him how not to stall out. Weird playing it on a control pad, though...unnatural.

Frankthetank36
11-06-2009, 09:56 AM
You can get a joystick for the 'box. My friend has BoP and it is pretty good... for a console sim. But there just aren't enough buttons to support all the commands that you see in the PC versions (forget about CEM). Most of the missions don't involve takeoff and landing BTW, but the action itself is pretty solid.

runyan99
11-06-2009, 12:12 PM
This video is taking 3 hours to download.

Sillius_Sodus
11-06-2009, 12:18 PM
Might be just the thing after a hard day's work or study...

Urufu_Shinjiro
11-06-2009, 12:32 PM
Lemme get this straight, take the best flight sim on PC ever made, port it to consoles, port the console version to the pc, and expect it to be good? I guess I'm just odd this way but I'm kinda surprised at the positive response this concept is getting here. Nothing on you guys, but this pc-console-pc port job kinda makes me angry. It's a little insulting to the masterpiece that is il2 don'tcha think?

Meh, just my opinion.

Ba5tard5word
11-06-2009, 01:10 PM
Yeah it would really need the quality and realism and attention to detail that Il-2 has to make it worth buying. I read some reviews of the console version and it sounds ok, but sounds like it was kind of watered down for the console market, which isn't surprising. BOP didn't have anything to do with Oleg's crew other than the Il-2 name or so I've heard.

Mr_Zooly
11-06-2009, 01:13 PM
A bit pointless imo as there are a few arcadey flight games out there: heroes over europe/pacific, blazing angels and hawx.

Gibbage1
11-06-2009, 01:49 PM
I have very little hope of this being good as a game, but it can bring more people into flight sims. Sims are a duying breed simply due to the learning curv. If this helps bridge the gap, bring more people into sims, then it will lead to better sims. Its a win in the long run even if it is not a good game for the hard core.

K_Freddie
11-06-2009, 02:14 PM
So they promoting... WOP!!

Reminds me of a tyre company down here, who decided to go online..
The company: Tyger Wheel And Tyre
The website: 'http/www.t_w_a_t.co.za(currently - http://ww.twt.co.za ')

Remove the underscores
I just ROFLLLLLLLLLddddddddd
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Bruisercruiser
11-06-2009, 02:50 PM
Great point Urufu re: porting from PC to console then back again. There's a host of serious issues in BOP for consoles and some of us who are familiar with IL-2 1946 aren't as thrilled with BOP as the youngsters. While admitingly, BOP looks good, it doesn't look good all the time.

Here's a very good review of BOP that IMO is the best out there. I assume it will apply to WOP as well. http://www.egcgames.com/content.php?id=1651

JG53_Valantine
11-06-2009, 03:58 PM
To be honest I don't get the point!

We have IL2, why woudl we want a slimmd down in complexity but slightly graphically spiffed up console version of it on the PC?

I understand the want for porting IL2 to the console marked with BOP but why port it back??

My money is firmly staying in my pocket until SOW and SH5
V

VMF-214_HaVoK
11-06-2009, 04:36 PM
Originally posted by doraemil:
Historically accurate aircrafts

This game is a must for the childrens

Wow, that's news! thanks for posting . . .


It'll probably require a beast of a PC . . . But can't wait to see what the specs would be and if I can run it . . .


I wonder how customer support and internet capability will be like. And will this get the same love that IL-2 1946 is getting?


I notice they said "Sans IL-2 name" because Oleg didn't back it?


I notice on the video you can recognize the IL-2 damage pattern (on the salamander) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

It is possible to get your point across without sounding like a obnoxious, snobby, elitest. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Gibbage1
11-06-2009, 10:09 PM
Originally posted by JG53_Valantine:
To be honest I don't get the point!
V

Like I said, its NOT for YOU, its for people are arnt pro flight simmers. Its an introductory game, to help smooth out the learning curv. Without this type of game, we get no new blood. No new blood, flight sim suffers from attrition and slowly dies. Be happy that the industry is showing at least SOME interest in simming.

Treetop64
11-06-2009, 10:58 PM
Originally posted by Urufu_Shinjiro:
Lemme get this straight, take the best flight sim on PC ever made, port it to consoles, port the console version to the pc, and expect it to be good? I guess I'm just odd this way but I'm kinda surprised at the positive response this concept is getting here. Nothing on you guys, but this pc-console-pc port job kinda makes me angry. It's a little insulting to the masterpiece that is il2 don'tcha think?

Meh, just my opinion.

It's a shared sentiment, Urufu...

Feathered_IV
11-07-2009, 02:51 AM
Malibou Stacy with a new hat?

Uufflakke
11-07-2009, 03:23 AM
Originally posted by Bruisercruiser:

Here's a very good review of BOP that IMO is the best out there. I assume it will apply to WOP as well. http://www.egcgames.com/content.php?id=1651

Thanks for the review. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
If BOP and WOP are the same than it is definately a waste of money.
According the review:
-Scale problem: Houses are tiny, trees are huges, tanks are smaller than motorcycles, tiny planes in huge hangars etc.
-No Axis campaigns.
-No Axis cockpits.
-Limited number of missions.
-Lack of campaigns.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif

skarden
11-07-2009, 03:24 AM
This looks like it'll be a fun disctraction and a bit of just plain ol' pointless fun,plus I think it'll definitely bring more people to this sim.The first "sim" I got into was Blazing Angels,very lite on the sim side(very very) but it bridged the gap for me and made me seek out more realistic fligth game which led me here.

plus it supports trackir and hotas's so I'll prob pick this up for S#@ts and giggles

Low_Flyer_MkIX
11-07-2009, 03:36 AM
Gibbage raises a good point.

Oh Gawd - imagine this forum when the Birds of Prey crowd wander across in search of 'full real' macho-ness and informed unbaised and ever-so-knowledgeable opinion. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

major_setback
11-07-2009, 07:16 AM
I was disappointed when it first came out that it was only for consoles (as BoP).

I'll give it a try for the sake of the graphics.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

doogerie
11-07-2009, 07:18 AM
We don't know hw relistic it is going to be it may be really realstic if the devs know what they are doing any way i saw somthing i think where the devo of iL2 BOP said that he understands how the consol players want somthing more instent action and less relstic so let's hope he takes that onbord and brings a good realistc flight sim

Choctaw111
11-07-2009, 09:15 AM
Originally posted by Low_Flyer_MkIX:
Gibbage raises a good point.

Oh Gawd - imagine this forum when the Birds of Prey crowd wander across in search of 'full real' macho-ness and informed unbaised and ever-so-knowledgeable opinion. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

You bring up a good point, but I think that a bunch of snot nosed degenerate kids would not last long on here. I see what they do on other forums, but hey, if we could straighten out Stealth_Owl...then straightening out a thousand new kids will be a thousand times more difficult, right? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

DuxCorvan
11-08-2009, 02:43 AM
The reasonable thing to do was upgrading our Il-2 to BoP graphic quality standards, not porting the game. Now that's a v.5.00 I'd pay for.

NAFP_supah
11-08-2009, 05:30 AM
Originally posted by Low_Flyer_MkIX:
Gibbage raises a good point.

Oh Gawd - imagine this forum when the Birds of Prey crowd wander across in search of 'full real' macho-ness and informed unbaised and ever-so-knowledgeable opinion. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

So basically not much will change?

Monterey13
11-08-2009, 05:48 AM
Wings of Prey is still Ilyas' creation, right? I know he made BoP, with a little help from Oleg.

major_setback
11-10-2009, 01:19 PM
From BoP till you drop...

...to Do WoP:
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

http://img.maniadb.com/images/album/181/181100_1_f.jpg

http://www.vinceanthony.com/images/History3%20-%20DO-WOP_291_431_text.jpg

stalkervision
11-10-2009, 01:25 PM
Originally posted by major_setback:
From BoP till you drop...

...to Do WoP:
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

http://img.maniadb.com/images/album/181/181100_1_f.jpg

http://www.vinceanthony.com/images/History3%20-%20DO-WOP_291_431_text.jpg


AHHH RY CooDer! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

great stuff M/S I have that very same album. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

ElAurens
11-10-2009, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by Monterey13:
Wings of Prey is still Ilyas' creation, right? I know he made BoP, with a little help from Oleg.

Negative.

Neither of them had anything to do with BOP development other than Maddox games supplied FM data. Nothing else came from IL2, or it's team.

doogerie
11-11-2009, 07:50 AM
I was looking at the BOP forum today and I cma across a couple of intresung nuggits 1 no one playes BOP online anymore and 2 WOP is men to have better aircaraft models (comperd too BOP)and more levels ect.
yes I know it's not SOW but iam getting rather exited about it but i will not buy it untill i read a few reviews of the game i wonder if it will be able to hold a flame to IL2 1946

M_Gunz
11-11-2009, 08:54 AM
Already have 1946 so why? It's like reading a good book then looking to buy the comic, errr, graphic NOVel.

Chivas
11-11-2009, 11:52 AM
Like EL said this is not a conversion of IL-2 from a PC to Console and back to PC game. Its a different developer who built their own game engine and borrowed IL-2's FM.

They haven't set system requirements but posted it will run fine on a dual core, 2 gig system with 2 gigs of memory, and 9xxx video card or ati equivilent.

It may be fun to pass a little time with until SOW comes out next year.

JSG72
11-11-2009, 03:05 PM
Apparently supports 6DOf/track IR and Saitek and Thrustmaster sticks.

I'll be getting it. It is much simpler to use than IL2'46.

Jeez! it has different levels of gameplay (including Simulation/Full real).

Sure We'll miss creating our own missions. But every "Wings of Prey" mission will be able to be played a multitude of times till you get it right!

For all those decrying it. Lets face it.

If you really want to recreate WWII flying. Well I guess that all of us are already dead!!!

Romanator21
11-13-2009, 04:04 PM
The official WoP website is now up. At the forums, an admin said that they plan to release the demo next week. Would at least be fun to try, and then we can judge the FM/"arcade-ness" of it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Gibbage1
11-13-2009, 10:19 PM
Honestly, I had a lot of fun playing the arcade sims on the 360 like Secret Weapons and such. Sure, its not a true "sim" but its FUN! You dont need it to be a full sim to be FUN!! Now, if they take that fun, and put in more sim features like TIR and better stick support, then more fun!

Xiolablu3
11-14-2009, 04:41 AM
Originally posted by Gibbage1:
Honestly, I had a lot of fun playing the arcade sims on the 360 like Secret Weapons and such. Sure, its not a true "sim" but its FUN! You dont need it to be a full sim to be FUN!! Now, if they take that fun, and put in more sim features like TIR and better stick support, then more fun!

I absolutely agree.

Crimson skies PC was incredible fun at the time. I played through that game about 5 times.

Frequent_Flyer
11-14-2009, 09:27 AM
I play IL-2 primarily "off line". I play COD and Birds of Prey " on Line.

The " on Line experience for both of these games is infinately better. No concerns about the version I'm running etc.I am not sure of the " age group " that play IL-2 on line. My experience has been some individuals are very childish.

VMF-214_HaVoK
11-14-2009, 10:22 AM
Sure, its not a true "sim" but its FUN!

How dare you say the word FUN around here! LOL. It is funny because some people get so wrapped up in to so called realism they forget why we play video games in the first place. Its fun! Some of my most fun moments playing games had nothing to do with realism. I remember a time when people played games to escape the real world. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

JSG72
11-14-2009, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by Gibbage1:
Honestly, I had a lot of fun playing the arcade sims on the 360 like Secret Weapons and such. Sure, its not a true "sim" but its FUN! You dont need it to be a full sim to be FUN!! Now, if they take that fun, and put in more sim features like TIR and better stick support, then more fun!

Apparently?

As much FUN. As you can shake A STICK AT.

But, as for "FULL REAL". Well I guess yous are bored aleady?

Also? Why aren't you guys, reading the previous POST!!!!!!?

Billy_DeLyon
11-16-2009, 07:36 PM
Here's an interesting article on this WOP:

http://www.simhq.com/_air13/air_416a.html

Sounds like some of the doubts expressed here have been addressed, eg there are more flyables in the PC version..

The title sure is strange! Doesn't really make much sense but I guess it sounds catchy if you don't think about it?

Metatron_123
11-23-2009, 01:07 PM
The fact that there is a simulator mode is enough to make me buy it.

It looks very pretty-the aircraft external models however seem identical to Il-2, and overall it reminds me of Il-2 with modded maps-a lot!

I guess I'm more a visual person, what is annoying me most is that they kept the damn generic Russian pilot once more! Gnaaaa

horseback
11-23-2009, 01:25 PM
Originally posted by Billy_DeLyon:
The title sure is strange! Doesn't really make much sense but I guess it sounds catchy if you don't think about it? Possibly the English language title "Birds of Prey" has already been taken, copyrighted and done to death and the publishers want to evoke that concept without provoking a lawsuit.

Of course, we may just be dealing with your standard issue semi-literate computer/anime geek mentality...

cheers

horseback

Metatron_123
11-23-2009, 01:58 PM
Definitely a charmer:

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x286/metatron_123/Picture11.jpg

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x286/metatron_123/Picture12-1.jpg

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x286/metatron_123/Picture5-2.jpg

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x286/metatron_123/Picture9-1.jpg

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x286/metatron_123/Picture6-2.jpg

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http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x286/metatron_123/Picture2-2.jpg

Momma look! No bar

Gibbage1
11-23-2009, 03:01 PM
Ya. Those are NOT IL2 models. Its possible that at one point they were, as temp stand in's (common in the industry) but someone when in and replaced them, or REALLY worked them over.

Feathered_IV
11-23-2009, 05:48 PM
If they are true 3D, the speed at which they work puts Maddox Games to shame. I suspect though that much of that detail is 'painted on' onto flat surfaces. Does the xbox version have similar cockpits? Perhaps someone who owns it might enlighten us.

doogerie
11-27-2009, 03:07 AM
In the Uk we have this mag called Pc Pilot so i will see what they say as thay are a dedicated mag thay know there stuff thay gave ROf a platnum award and seem to LOVE 1il2 mor tthen most of us so yeah

Choctaw111
11-27-2009, 07:27 AM
@Metatron_123
Those screenshots are amazing.
When I saw the first one, I gasped in amazement.
Very good detail, but I am still left wondering how it all look in full motion.

Uufflakke
11-27-2009, 07:33 AM
Another screenie:

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh195/Uufflakke/I-153.jpg

Metatron_123
11-29-2009, 06:30 AM
Evidently this is a quality product already. But I do hope they finally change those Mig-15 pilot models...

Romanator21
11-29-2009, 12:33 PM
Although nice and quickly made, the 3-d aspect of the cockpits don't come close to SoW. The instrument gauges don't show depth, and the cockpit frames in the Fw-190 are mirrored, for example. The soft interior shadows are nice though.

Metatron_123
12-10-2009, 03:00 PM
Anyone played the beta version? I've downloaded it but don't have access to my windows partition for a while.

A small note about the lighting, it seems a bit stylized to look dramatic.

Sokol__1
12-10-2009, 03:45 PM
Pictures from Wop topic in AviaForum:

http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/6097/wop2.jpg

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In game videos - by players in Beta:
http://files.mail.ru/498V8D
http://files.mail.ru/90DLHQ
http://files.mail.ru/L5EW6V
http://files.mail.ru/Z1ONTD

Sokol

Metatron_123
12-10-2009, 04:30 PM
Cheers. This looks like good stuff. I only hope the flight model is half decent.

Edit: You'll notice from some of the videos that this is definitely if not hardcore, at least worthy of the title simulator. You can see that the aircraft behaves in a realistic way, stalls, the pilot blacks out etc.

runyan99
12-13-2009, 05:56 PM
Is there an approximate release date?

Chivas
12-14-2009, 12:10 AM
Originally posted by Metatron_123:
Cheers. This looks like good stuff. I only hope the flight model is half decent.

Edit: You'll notice from some of the videos that this is definitely if not hardcore, at least worthy of the title simulator. You can see that the aircraft behaves in a realistic way, stalls, the pilot blacks out etc.

The flight model should be decent...they borrowed the FM for IL-2.

Chivas
12-14-2009, 12:12 AM
Originally posted by runyan99:
Is there an approximate release date?

I don't think its far off and you can become a beta tester by buying the product now at a reduced rate.

VVS-Manuc
12-14-2009, 04:49 AM
Is it possible to takeoff and to land? Or are there only missions with airstart?
Is it possible to use flaps, landing gears, rudder trim, engine management etc? http://media.ubi.com/us/forum_images/gf-glomp.gif

staticline1
12-14-2009, 08:41 AM
Anyone know if there is going to be a QMB just to set up some quick dogfights or fly around? Would be a nice addition as well.

BigC208
12-14-2009, 04:02 PM
I was looking at the pictures and video's of the game and was going to buy it. Read up on it and there is no axis campaign and no QMB for now. Changed my mind, Il2 patched up and modded out will do fine for now. I think WoP's going to be a dolled up version of Il2 but without the depth. Good thing is that I think it's going to bring a lot of new folk's to the genre. These people can then nicely roll into SoW BoB when that comes around next year.

Chivas
12-14-2009, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by VVS-Manuc:
Is it possible to takeoff and to land? Or are there only missions with airstart?
Is it possible to use flaps, landing gears, rudder trim, engine management etc? http://media.ubi.com/us/forum_images/gf-glomp.gif

The short answer is yes to take offs and landing, but not all missions.

DuxCorvan
12-15-2009, 11:50 AM
I only hope SOW terrain looks like this or better, and not the ugly simplistic terrain we've seen lately.

And to be sincere, SOW cockpits are much more detailed and complex, but have certain "drawing" feel that make them less realistic than these.

But it's sad that WoP is to have so limited re-playabilty. It would be great with a mission/campaign editor. Without it, it will get boring, fast, once the initial "wow" factor is over...

Chivas
12-15-2009, 12:12 PM
WOP is in the process of developing a mission builder.

BOB SOW should be far more detailed and look much better than WOP, BUT the trick will be having all that beautifull detail, and still have playable frame rates. Olegs team has shown us they can optimize code very well but they have a real tough job with this level of detail.

That said, by the time SOW comes out WOP will have time to improve their product. BUT I doubt WOP would be able to match SOW's detail if its finally released next year.

Gibbage1
12-15-2009, 12:19 PM
Its also a matter of post release support. I have seen a lot of games come and go (not just flight sims) that get 1 or 2 patches after launch, and the company just walks away. The #1 reason games like TF2, Left 4 Dead, and IL2 are so big is post release support in patches and add-on's. Thats key for me is what they do after the game is on the shelf.

TheGozr
12-15-2009, 11:30 PM
I love to see Yak9 with Yak1 cockpit .. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif good success!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Metatron_123
12-21-2009, 08:41 PM
I think proper cockpits will come eventually. I asked about the individual Bf-109 ones over at the beta forum and was told they are to be included at some point.

So I've been playing the beta. I like it, and it grows on you. There is definitely room for improvement but there seems to be a solid foundation.

Good:
a)Atmosphere and feel: In realistic and simulator mode, the planes feel right. In particular there is a nice sense of constant vibration, and you have black outs and stalls. Raindrops appear on the canopy as you fly through clouds, Pilot breathes heavily as you pull gs. In general there is an convincing atmospheric and claustrophobic feel inside the cockpit. The radio chatter is not too over the top, and is specific to the mission: ''That's Dover castle over there, they call it the key to England'' OK your leader shouldn't be acting like a tour guide, but it still makes the mission involving. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
Also a small detail: You can switch off your gun-sight. Hurray!

b)Looks: Visuals are beautiful and crisp, there is also a nice blur effect as you look around. Towns are beautifully populated with a nice sense of texture, the colours are soft and pleasing, the trees are nice. Great shadows. Aircraft have lumps and bumps, have texture and look solid. Canopies gleam dramatically in the sunlight.

c)Combat: Dog-fighting can be challenging, the denser ground and moody sky make it harder to spot things and enemy ai is quite competent. Everything moves smoothly even with a lot of aircraft in the air. Aircraft move convincingly.

d) On the extras provided: Excellent orchestral soundtrack, dramatic and powerful. Lots of nice wartime footage provides a quick history lesson between missions-a great way to educate youths I believe.

Bad:
a)Nanny commander: In the missions a game like completion of objectives is required. When you fail or succeed the mission ends. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif Many people have whined about this at the beta testing forum, hopefully it will be improved in this respect.

b)Flight models are a bit lightweight still, planes are controllable at very low speeds and accelerate and decelerate rather easily I think. Not to the extent of being too arcadey however. Damage model seems simplistic.

c)Again those gunners! Gunners are William Tell clones and hit you at 700 meters range. This has been a prevailing criticism of Il2 so hopefully they will take heed and rectify it.


I can definitely say that if you like IL2, you'll feel at home in realistic or simulator mode during combat. Some imperfections are obviously there, but all in all this shows promise and is without doubt already a quality game. We can only hope the developers continue to polish it.

staticline1
12-22-2009, 06:53 AM
The more I've read or seen of this sim the more it reminds me of Janes WWII fighters releases a number of years back. A number of collective missions however covering more than one campaign now. What sucks is there is a very limited hard copy releases and in only a few areas per devs.

Choctaw111
12-22-2009, 10:24 AM
Tracers are not all the same color http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
I was happy to see this one.
http://forum.sukhoi.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=102460&stc=1260221614

These are also different colors, but can someone explain this?
Perhaps in the beta stage they are just testing out the different colors.

http://forum.sukhoi.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=102579&d=1260368864

Urufu_Shinjiro
12-22-2009, 10:47 AM
Someone posted the following, it was good info so I repeat it here but the username (with one post count) was foul language so I had to delete it. To the poster, the username violates the Terms of Use, as does having an alias, no duplicate accounts allowed.



I may have been playing the beta for the last few weeks and if I had then I would say it is rather good. (NDA)

Very atmospheric and not far off IL2 in terms of FM etc. Superb graphics and sound (Engine sounds a bit duff at moment but the gunfire tracers are superb! - They even fade out when you pull G!!! )and little things give those great IL2 moments !You should fight in the chanel dogfight with about 40 planes going everywhich way! Superb ! Alos the Devs are providing improvements thick and fast.

There is a sort of QMB actually and I believe the devs are making the Plnases Skinable and also providing a mission editor / creator. Oh and a Pacific Theater is also on the cards !!

I was a little sceptical at first but IMO This sim has great pontential and may ofer a stop gap until SOW.

Shhh I didnt say anything - NDA

PS Just incase you notice my post ammount ! This is my stealth account and I have been posting on these boards for years !