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markoes1984
06-22-2005, 10:28 AM
hi all

just bought IL2- forgotten battle but i have a problem.

it's a noobisch question for you so ive you dont want to get frustrated dont read any more.

My Question is not about drivers or joystick configurations no it's about "How to get a boogie down" (he im new). I swear i did evrything in the training video on gunnery pratice. Dont get me wrong i am hitting the boogies problem is that the dont wanne go down. even when i go so close that i almost collide. But evrytime when i open up i see my bullets hit, i see 10 tons of planedebry fly of the palen but i wont go down!!!. for example: I was straight behind a i-15 i came closer than i should i opend up whit a 3 sec burst in de center fuselage. After i flew to tons op debry the only result was a small smoke trail. i attact over and over again from all angles but i wont flame and i wont go down and when i see my NPC wingman heonly need a 1 sec burst to flame 1. Im getting nuts! pls help

LEXX_Luthor
06-22-2005, 10:40 AM
Sounds like you might need a Patch. Some planes used to have armour like Tiger Tank.

There is no I~15 in the game. It would be nice to have though. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Tip:: Start out by going up against big unarmed enemy bombers (they don't shoot back). Try an emtpy loaded TB-3 as target in QMB. Also, try this flying the IL-2 attack bomber, the one with cannon (forgot which one lol). Do this at low altitude. Setup QMB for a low altitude engagement, as both these planes are low level machines.

Wellcome to Forgotten Board

bun-bun195333
06-22-2005, 10:53 AM
Set your convergence to 200 meters.
Lead your target - aim in front of him so the bullets get where the plane will be when the bullets get there.
Use the Storch as a target; it can't get away.

Boogie nights, oh oh - ho ho ho
Boogie nights, oh wow - ho ho ho

markoes1984
06-22-2005, 10:54 AM
hmmm patch offcourse.... (what do you mean im new).

i know some plane had armor, il2 for example. Been reading about ww2 and ww2 airplane for a long time. Thats why i decide to but il2. But i know that plane i realy swear it was a i15 biplane (used by the russian in spanisch civil war, finisch war and beginning of opration barbarossa) had no armor i am on the right forum right? il2 forgotten battles? (pls god dont let me be that noobisch) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Airmail109
06-22-2005, 10:58 AM
Patches are updates they are in the downloads section.....that should cure it....if not go and get the ACes expansion pack and Pacific fighters 4.0 and update the game to 4.01.
This version of the game is by far the best! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

But the patches for Forgotten battles should cure it! If your firing .303s i seem to remember they were porked!

dieg777
06-22-2005, 12:46 PM
for versions and patches check here

http://www.airwarfare.com/guides/patching.htm

check out the advice here

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/Tailspin/index.htm

check air to air and anything by andy bush.
these is a link to raf instructions which are good

http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/air_combat/RAFgun/

If you have the merged install Il2 forgotten battles + aces + PF I have put up some training missions and a guide here

http://www.airwarfare.com/guides/snapshot.htm

also see here for good tips

http://www.airwarfare.com/tactics/tactics_fwgunnery.htm

baisically its practice and getting in very close

good luck

knightflyte
06-22-2005, 02:35 PM
What everyone else said PLUS try to aim for wing roots. Thats where the fuselage and wing meet. I usually TRY and I stress TRY to hit at about 1/3rd of the wing's span from the fuselage.

Planes soak up a lot of fuselage damage unless you manage a pilot kill. In which case the fight is over.... you just don't know it.

I think you'll like Forgotten Battles a lot once you get patched up okay..... THEN you'll want FB GOLD and Pacific Fighters. It's an addiction.

markoes1984
06-23-2005, 12:48 AM
tnx for all the help

by the way it's already an addicitions http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

tjaika1910
06-23-2005, 02:50 AM
The debris effect is sometimes misleading. Dont expect to find a dig hole for each debries thingie :-)

The I-153 Chaika (yes it is a later version of the numerous I-15. But this game it so accurate that saying it is a I-15 is ... inaccurate) can be hard to shoot down, if the convergence it set so most bullets goes between the biplane wings. When you get the hang of it you can snap a wing off, or more wisely, shoot the engine.

A little fact for our american audience:

I-15 deserves special honor from American military pilots. It was flown by ace of Spanish War Frank G. Tinker, who became the first American to shot down Messerschmitt Bf-109.

HansKnappstick
06-23-2005, 03:17 AM
Yes those biplanes are nasty targets because there is not much to destroy in them. Shooting from behind you have little chances of hitting anything important (pilot, engine), and the target can still fly with some holes in the fabric.

I think this is the problem encountered by the original poster.

Ankanor
06-23-2005, 04:55 AM
Plus, the Tchaika and I-16 were really rigid in FB v1.0 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif shooting dead 6 o'clock at them was pure masochism.

what everybody said, patch first to 1.21 version, then if you intend to buy Aces Expansion pack(AEP)(reccommend you do http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif)patch it to 2.01 and then to 2.04. For the ultimate complect... buy Pacific Fighters(PF) and patch to version 4.01. You can install the pacific fighters as stand alone or a merged install with the other older versions(FB&AEP). You won't regret it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif Welcome, once more

D@rn, I'm sounding like a advertiser. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

And yes, try not to be on the very six o'clock of your target. even a few degrees off his path can make a big difference. Good Luck!

Huckebein_UK
06-23-2005, 05:15 AM
The I-153 is easily confused with the I-15. Both had the gull wing, but the I-15 had fixed undercarriage. Early in the war, and in other engagements across the globe, I-153 pilots often flew with their undercarriage extended, hoping to fool the enemy into thinking they were obsolete I-15s. Once the enemy were committed, they'd retract the undercarriage, revealing themselves as, in fact, flying the far more potent I-153.

The I-15bis, which came between the I-15 and I-153, was similar to the I-15 but dispensed with the gulled upper wing, replacing it with a more conventional straight wing (similar to the Gladiator), under which the pilot could see.

Anyway, history lesson over; what were you flying Markoes? It would help to know what armament you were packing. Also, whatever it was you must be quite an accomplished pilot already to be able to follow an enemy I-153, through all its evasive manoeuvres, and still be able to pump rounds into it from dead 6! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

markoes1984
06-23-2005, 08:13 AM
hmm only experience i got is from cfs1 and 2 so im still a newby. Just beginners luck i think