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ytareh
05-25-2007, 05:49 PM
Did I see at one stage a guy who made his own trim controller with rotary /trim wheels?Would love a link or some info.

Huxley_S
05-25-2007, 06:10 PM
A good place to start...

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/49310655/m/3821084134

R_Target
05-25-2007, 07:50 PM
I stuffed a Saitek stick inside one of my old guitar pedals. Replaced the Saitek pots with some multiturn 50k ohm pots. Elevator trim on the left, rudder on top, prop pitch/RPM on the right. Works pretty well. I'll probably add some switches and get the duct tape off of there at some point.

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1050/wagg00n019bv9.jpg

Philipscdrw
05-25-2007, 10:15 PM
How does the guitar sound through it?

WhtBoy
05-25-2007, 10:42 PM
You mean like this...

http://www.whtboys.org/IL-2/TrimSetup/TrimSetup01.jpg

http://www.whtboys.org/IL-2/TrimSetup/TrimSetup02.jpg

http://www.whtboys.org/IL-2/TrimSetup/TrimSetup03.jpg

R_Target
05-25-2007, 10:44 PM
Originally posted by Philipscdrw:
How does the guitar sound through it?

It shreds! http://sillysoft.net/forums/images/smiles/smiley_headbanger.gif

ytareh
05-26-2007, 02:57 AM
Yeah WhtBoy thats what I mean (or in a complete box unit)So how do you do that?Is it hard?Where do you get parts?Which ones?

notamuppet
05-26-2007, 03:26 AM
Originally posted by WhtBoy:
You mean like this...

http://www.whtboys.org/IL-2/TrimSetup/TrimSetup01.jpg

http://www.whtboys.org/IL-2/TrimSetup/TrimSetup02.jpg

http://www.whtboys.org/IL-2/TrimSetup/TrimSetup03.jpg
coooooool http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

DooDaH2007
05-26-2007, 07:41 AM
Very nice setup http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

but I see a nostromo n52 laying forgotten on the ground... should be made a crime..! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

M_Gunz
05-27-2007, 12:47 AM
Just FYI for all you roll-your-owns, IF your stick is USB then you might have an unused analog stick port open on the back of your PC. If you do then it does not take long to find the pinout
for that port that has available FOUR (4) axes (plural of axis) plus EIGHT (8) buttons of I/O.

What does it take to use them? Try a 15 pin crimp connector from Radio Shack unless you want to
salvage something with hair thin wires you salvaged off a cheap stick. Hook a turn-pot across
pins 2 and 3 and you have a recognizable axis right there without sacrificing a $100 joystick
or even a $30 POS that won't get better results unless you go with a real chap potentiometer.

If you make plug boxes and parts to move a stick then you've gone from Miami to Jacksonville,
both in Florida via Seattle, Washington.

WhtBoy
05-28-2007, 02:28 PM
Originally posted by DooDaH2007:
Very nice setup http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

but I see a nostromo n52 laying forgotten on the ground... should be made a crime..! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I only use the n52 for infantry work. There's just not enough room on board for everything at once. Also, it grabs USB id 1 no matter what and I didn't feel like remapping all my IL-2 controls.

--Outlaw.

WhtBoy
05-28-2007, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by ytareh:
Yeah WhtBoy thats what I mean (or in a complete box unit)So how do you do that?Is it hard?Where do you get parts?Which ones?

The USB controller is from Leo Bodnar ( link (http://www.lbodnar.dsl.pipex.com/joystick/index.html)) and the box is from Radio Shack. The elvator trim is a 10 turn precision pot I got from Fry's here in Houston. The other post are just $3 junk from Radio Shack. I fabricated the bracket from aluminum sheet metal and angle. Doing it all "on the fly" took me about 6 hours. If I had done some design work up front it would have taken much less time.

--Outlaw.

Aaron_GT
05-28-2007, 03:05 PM
Just FYI for all you roll-your-owns, IF your stick is USB then you might have an unused analog stick port open on the back of your PC. If you do then it does not take long to find the pinout

For about 10 (or a similar amount in your local currency) you can get gameport to USB converters. I have one for my game port CH rudder pedals.

I have seen various USB control surfaces for use for music

(see http://www.behringer.com/BCF2000/index.cfm?lang=eng)

Now if one of those could be made to work as a sim controller think of the possibilities!

Taylortony
05-28-2007, 04:27 PM
http://www.flightsim.com/cgi/kds?$=main/m-howto.htm


this is sweet too

http://www.flightsim.com/cgi/kds?$=main/howto/ortek2.htm

M_Gunz
05-29-2007, 01:48 AM
Originally posted by Aaron_GT:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Just FYI for all you roll-your-owns, IF your stick is USB then you might have an unused analog stick port open on the back of your PC. If you do then it does not take long to find the pinout

For about 10 (or a similar amount in your local currency) you can get gameport to USB converters. I have one for my game port CH rudder pedals. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Is your gameport already in use? Or do you have a higher precision one to use with the USB
converter? I do remember one company that did make a higher precision A/D converter in their
soundcards just for more precise joystick control back in the 90's. I forget just who though.

The hard part for me is the mechanicals, getting them strong and smooth and clean, no jitters
or stick spots even over time. No strings or cables to stretch and no gears to lose movement
to backlash (reversing gear movement, there's a tiny bit of play).
For pedals;
I've had some thoughts on cutting the headset from an old bicycle with a straight pipe in
place of the handlebars, all upside down and footrests on the pipe but that's a lot of work
to mount. Thing is it'd be solid and feet at natural distance apart. I could use a Hall
Effect sensor with magnet below the 'neck' to avoid mechanical sensing issues, to turn a pot
would take friction or cords or gears and optical sensing is just way more complex.


I have seen various USB control surfaces for use for music

(see http://www.behringer.com/BCF2000/index.cfm?lang=eng)

Now if one of those could be made to work as a sim controller think of the possibilities!

Cool but pricey. There's a USB microcontroller and wiring harness just for building your own
mentioned in the other home-build thread that allows 6 or 8 axes and beaucoup buttons, IIRC.
I lost my link to that page when I jumped to XP though. For about $30 they have a lot of the
electronics and a driver covered.

Housings and sliders... it's amazing the things you can find at yard sales and estate auctions.