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IZT
10-20-2004, 02:51 AM
Yes a .50 CAL TOPIC!! yea yea don't worry this is not a RANT about the guns being lousy or anything. I was jsut wondering, is the sound in FB Ace of them .50 cals really how it sounded in real life? I eman they sound so wierd and underpowered. I would think a .50 cal had a REALLY POWERFUL LOUD sound to it. The one in FB just don't seem right.. not to mention you are firing like 6 to 8 of em at one time....

Anyone agree the sound needs to be tweakedhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif?

O and if u don't agree with the post or anything don't flame im just wondeirng and stuff.

PlimPlam
10-20-2004, 02:58 AM
Dunno never fired a gun in my life. let alone a .50 cal. but Ive heard others complain about their sound as well.

Capt.LoneRanger
10-20-2004, 03:08 AM
Er, it is a difference between firing a Cal50 HMG on a turret or standing next to it, and being in a cockpit directly behind a roaring engine.

If you're sitting at an airport a jet engine is deafening loud. If you sit inside the plane, it's a lot softer.

Besides that, please don't forget your sound settings. If you only use onboard sound, the Cal50 sound dull, but with surround sound, they're really cool.

F19_Ob
10-20-2004, 03:08 AM
I have no clue.
But I saw in some forum? that sound was modeled regarding to the engine sound aswell and that guns got kind of these sounds over the engine sound?
Cant back this up in any way since I cant remember where I read it or who wrote it.
Anyway its no biggie to me.

Only way to be sure ,I guess, is to sit in a fighter in full speed and with the headgear on and fire the guns.

IZT
10-20-2004, 03:10 AM
REalli Sound card affects? i doubt it affects much + not to mention when you hear on external view they're noy good enough for SIX 50 CALS baby

ploughman
10-20-2004, 03:13 AM
I fired a .50 once. It was certainly was quite loud but it still had more in common with the sound a rifle makes than say, a larger calibre weapon like a cannon. I would have thought, though, that 6-8 of them going off within 20ft of you would be alot louder than the sound modelled in the game.

SheerLuckHolmes
10-20-2004, 03:22 AM
I have fired doublebarelled .50 cal browning in army. Sound was terrible. But I think at least my speakers would not stand that amount of noise ( not to talk about my dear wife http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif )

So I think the noise in game is enough (for me)

Cheers

SheerLuck Holmes

PBNA-Boosher
10-20-2004, 04:55 AM
Fired a Barret .50 cal once. That's one of these:
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The local armory had a "for the people" day and invited some people in to see the local military stuff. I was 7 years old, and a huge guy came up to me and said, "Hey kid, wanna fire a gun?"
He brought me out to the range with my dad, held the gun steady and let me pull the trigger. That was an insanely cool day.

Capt.LoneRanger
10-20-2004, 05:28 AM
@IZT

There is a large difference between 3D-accelerated sound and "normal" onboard sound. Of course there is. I've both and after having some trouble with my first MoBo drivers and my SB Audigy2, I removed the SB and played with onboard 5.1 sound. It took me about 30min flying with IL2, then I spend 4 hours to get my SB working.
Installing SB is a real adventure, if you don't know how to do it, but I never, ever play a game without EAX and 3-D-Soundacceleration.

It's definately a difference!

SeaFireLIV
10-20-2004, 05:57 AM
NOOOOOOOOO! Not another .50 Cal whine thread I thought this was gone fore-

What? it`s NOT a whine? Phew, what a relief... I can sleep peacefully tonight then...
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S 8
10-20-2004, 07:01 AM
The Barret really felt in the stomach even a few meters away.

Bogun
10-20-2004, 07:41 AM
Just few anecdotes.

1. I remember reading about sound of battery of six firing .50cal described as €œpunishing€€¦

2. One practical joker advised one of the US pilots transferred to USAAF from the Eagle squadron to try fire eight .50 on the ground with cockpit open. After doing so, former Eagle pilot realized how cruel that joke was.

3. F-86 pilots were comparing the sensation of firing six .50cal M3 machineguns in flight with sitting on top of six working pneumatic jackhammers.

Zen--
10-20-2004, 08:06 AM
Based on my experiences in the military firing the M2 browning on my tank, I'd say not only is Aces off in the sound, they are so far off as to make you wonder if you are firing a machine gun at all, let alone 6 or 8 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Friendly_flyer
10-20-2004, 09:03 AM
I heard quite a few Browning M2s in my army days, though I never fired one my self. The sound was loud, certainly, but it was also sort of €œsoft€. This is hard to explain, but to me, it sounded a bit subdued, lacking the hard edge of a rifle crack (the Norwegian army uses 7,62mm (=.308 Win) G3s for comparison). The sound was also deeper and a bit more drawn out than the rifle reports. In effect, I€ll say that the difference between a rifle and a M2 is like the difference between a rifle and a shotgun, only the M2 is obviously louder than the shotgun.

I can imagine that with all the sound produced by the engine, the deeper sounds of the M2s are drowned out, leaving the €œpuny€ sounds we hear in the game. Another thing that must be remembered is that when firing a gun close to the ground, the sound waves heading down are reflected back up at you. Airborne, the sound waves dissipate nicely into the open sky, reducing the total amount of sound you hear. In a plane you are hearing the remaining sound through thick armour plating and Plexiglas windows, hood and ear phones. Compared to the also relatively mild engine sound, I think the sound of the .50s is relatively realistically modelled.

Having never fired a .50, let alone from a plane, I might be way off, though.

Capt.LoneRanger
10-20-2004, 09:33 AM
Zen - I trust in your experience, but firing a HMG in a tank is a little different than firing a HMG mounted in a wing.

1. You are in the same room, where the chamber is located. There's nothing between you and the HMG to lower the sound.
2. Infact the sound is strengthened, cause it echoes off the walls in a tank.

If you want a somewhat comparison, you should imagine the gun fired in a tank next to your tank.

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