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cmdrmoosicvs
07-09-2010, 12:47 PM
Alright you seasoned salts, I would like to know the most effective search pattern for a 200 mile radius patrol zone. For some reason I just don't like the search pattern the game conjures, so, I thought my fellow captains may have a pattern of their own that they use. I'm open to all suggestions. Thanks in advance.

LouLewis1967
07-09-2010, 12:55 PM
I'll admit that I use the one-button-push search pattern in the game, because it seems to fit neatly into the ~50 mi radius area for the Patrol Area mission type. You just have to get used to where to position the waypoint that begins the search.

A 200 mi. radius area is big. I'm not sure one pattern would could cover it in a reasonable time period. I'm sure skippers on here with more experience than me might have some suggestions though.

tenakakhan_1981
07-09-2010, 12:56 PM
I tend to go with two options, either the Sink 'n Lurk or the Slow Browse. Don't be fooled by the capital letters, I just made them up! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

Sink n Lurk is where I'll move from point to point, and submerge for a few hours, surface, move to another point, submerge.....this is particularly good if you're looking to save fuel, avoid aircraft, or generally let your Sonar crew do all the work.

Slow Browse is where I'll set a spoke like pattern, kind of like the triangle radius you'd draw around the sun as a kid, and then set the speed to standard (most fuel efficient in TMO 2.0) and just cruise. This lets the RADAR boys do their thing. Can get annoying with aircraft.

Either works, or even a combination of both, just to mix things up!

Did that help any? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

TK

cmdrmoosicvs
07-09-2010, 01:06 PM
Thanks TK and Lou, I have set similar patterns as TK , but maybe if future repliers submit a screenshot of your map it would give me a better picture (no pun intended). http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

WernherVonTrapp
07-10-2010, 07:26 AM
I rarely perform search patterns in a patrol zone anymore, well, not since fuel conservation became a factor. Now, I just pick a spot, stop all engines and TC my alloted patrol time. If something comes along in the process, I ambush it. More often than not though, I just waste fuel searching for a contact that rarely shows up. After my time is up, I go hunting elsewhere.

Ragincajin336
07-11-2010, 03:30 PM
Depends on the type of 200-mile search area, if it is circular, I recommend a spiral pattern either starting from the outside and work your way in, or start from the center and work your way out. that way if you receive tasking while searching, you are generally moving in a direction to intercept and you cover the whole area within the 48-hour period.

If it is more of a box, then I would recommend either a barrier search between geographic confines or an advance/retreat pattern where you sprint ahead of a shipping lane and work your way back, that way you are already in a good intercept position within your box using either stern or aft tubes.

cmdrmoosicvs
07-11-2010, 06:22 PM
This spiral pattern intrigues me. I think I may just give that a try. Thanks Ragincajin http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

LouLewis1967
07-12-2010, 06:58 AM
The spiral pattern is a classic S&R search pattern, based usually on someone's last known location as the origin of the spiral. I guess if you had an estimated plot of a convoy you could set up the pattern just ahead of where you think they will be. If you just have a 200mile area, picking the general center would be where to start.

I've found my sonar can reach up to 30K to 35K yards reliably. That's beyond what the crew operator will catch contacts on, but you can manually listen to contacts at that range. That's something to consider when determining the spacing between your spiral's arms.

fireftr18
07-12-2010, 10:17 AM
I do the same thing Werner does. I also look for areas that tend to get higher traffic.

btw, Werner, I've been off the forum for a couple days, why did you change your avatar?

WernherVonTrapp
07-12-2010, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by fireftr18:
I do the same thing Werner does. I also look for areas that tend to get higher traffic.

btw, Werner, I've been off the forum for a couple days, why did you change your avatar? I've always liked Mr. Roberts and his values/mores and decided that I identify more with him than I do with Judge Alvin "J.P." Valkenheiser. Besides, which one do you think looks better? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
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cmdrmoosicvs
08-01-2010, 12:45 PM
Originally posted by Ragincajin336:
Depends on the type of 200-mile search area, if it is circular, I recommend a spiral pattern either starting from the outside and work your way in, or start from the center and work your way out.

I took your advice Rajin, Works like a charm. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif On the large radius patrol areas, it's very effective. Thanks a million http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

paulhager
08-01-2010, 03:23 PM
I haven't played SH4 in a couple of years, though I plan on starting up again. SH5, which I have been playing, often requires that specific targets be sunk so getting some reasonable coverage is a good idea. What I do is a series of searches from the center out and back such that I go out X kilometers (or NM in SH4), make a turn and travel for some shorter distance, then turn back for the center, cross it and continue the process on the other side.

Rick_1105
08-01-2010, 11:56 PM
I use the spiral search method as well. Works great for me http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Wolferz
08-04-2010, 06:10 PM
Henry Fonda beats John Candy hands down.

I, like Werner, also don't run search patterns. Opting to sit and wait out the required time period, then go a Viking in the heavier travelled lanes.