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Lowenherz
06-11-2006, 05:28 PM
I'm just re-reading "First Light" by Geoffrey Wellum, about his experiences as a Spit pilot in the Battle of Britain. Buy it!!

Lowenherz
06-11-2006, 05:28 PM
I'm just re-reading "First Light" by Geoffrey Wellum, about his experiences as a Spit pilot in the Battle of Britain. Buy it!!

danjama
06-11-2006, 05:59 PM
Agree. Spirit of the blue is good too. The Big show too of course.

Taylortony
06-11-2006, 06:12 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Lowenherz:
I'm just re-reading "First Light" by Geoffrey Wellum, about his experiences as a Spit pilot in the Battle of Britain. Buy it!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thats why I never became a fighter pilot.......... stuff getting up at first light....... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Feathered_IV
06-11-2006, 06:24 PM
I just finished that book too!

I was thinking of posting about it as well. It was one of the best that I have read in a long while. Particularly so because I'd just finished reading Dizzy Allen's autobiography, which is the worst piece of prose I have read - ever. He kept referring to the sky as the Goddess Aer. Then would drift off into stuff about how she was like a lady but really a dirty ***** etc. etc. Really awful. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Wellum's book makes a nice account of the rest of the 'few'.

The only thing that nearly stopped me reading it was the little blurb on the front cover, written by some nib of a publisher who probably never looked twice at an aircraft: "You will feel that you are there in the cockpit with him, at 20 thousand feet. Being chased by a Heinkel, your ammunition gone."

Seriously, WTF!!!???

Treetop64
06-11-2006, 06:27 PM
I KNOW what it was like! I was THERE, man!

Where you there?

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tomtheyak
06-11-2006, 07:02 PM
I love this book. His descriptiveness, his ability to paint a picture so vivid and emotive, without resorting to flowery superlatives or exrtavagant superfluous vocabulary, and the honesty of this writing impressed me greatly.

The stark terror of being stuck facing 4 109s alone, whilst 50 miles from home base is brought across so powerfully - and I thought it I got scared online!

Man, that guy is somethig else. Not an ace, but in my mind that makes him all the more worthy of the title hero. He made it through unlike so many others.

Heavy_Metal1982
06-11-2006, 07:04 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> "You will feel that you are there in the cockpit with him, at 20 thousand feet. Being chased by a Heinkel, your ammunition gone." </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wow... that was the funniest thing I've read all day

dykesc
06-11-2006, 07:06 PM
"The Odds Against Us" by Peter Townsend is a good one. Contains some very interesting and detailed info on the quest for electronic navigation by both Britain and Germany. Very descriptive passages on how they navigated and landed during night missions. Some excellent accounts of air combat. In a couple of cases he tracked down German survivors and got their perspective.

Treetop64
06-11-2006, 07:07 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Heavy_Metal1982:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> "You will feel that you are there in the cockpit with him, at 20 thousand feet. Being chased by a Heinkel, your ammunition gone." </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wow... that was the funniest thing I've read all day </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Being chased by a Heinkel what, I wonder?

wayno7777
06-11-2006, 09:15 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ****sc:
"The Odds Against Us" by Peter Townsend is a good one. Contains some very interesting and detailed info on the quest for electronic navigation by both Britain and Germany. Very descriptive passages on how they navigated and landed during night missions. Some excellent accounts of air combat. In a couple of cases he tracked down German survivors and got their perspective. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Agreed, along with Duel Of Eagles.
Treetop64 Being chased by a Heinkel what, I wonder?

A 219 of course.... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
06-11-2006, 09:20 PM
Read it! Excellent stuff

Also recomend 'Fighter Boys' Patrick Bishop

I think Mr Wellum was the pilot that took a flight in the recent british tv series 'spitfire ace' an unfortunate title but none the less an entertaining program with some interesting anecdotes. Was great to see the old fighter back in the saddle for a fly past.

squadldr76
06-11-2006, 11:19 PM
I agree about "Figher Boys". I'm about 2 chapters shy of finishing it and so far, it's one of the best books on aerial warfare I've read. I think it really allows you to get to know a few of the pilots. It even depressed me a little when I read about the death of one of the main ones talked about.

I'll definitely be getting into a few others that are recommended on here. Does anybody have a recommendation for "The Most Dangerous Enemy" by Steven Bungay? I think it's kinda interesting how these three books use a variation of the same photo. Anybody else notice that?

Feathered_IV
06-11-2006, 11:34 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">

A 219 of course.... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, He219 were as common as muck during the Battle of Britain http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

AWL_Spinner
06-12-2006, 05:09 AM
In addition to those above, thumbs up for:

Fighter Pilot (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0304363391/qid=1150109614/sr=8-2/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i2_xgl/203-7888898-5414342) by Paul Richey - an excellent book for Hurri lovers and those interested in the Battle of France.

Low_Flyer_MkVb
06-12-2006, 05:20 AM
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Fighter Pilot is a great book. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

DxyFlyr
06-12-2006, 10:53 AM
Reading Wellum's book for the third time now. Can't speak highly enough about it.

RCAF_Irish_403
06-13-2006, 06:37 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ****sc:
"The Odds Against Us" by Peter Townsend is a good one. Contains some very interesting and detailed info on the quest for electronic navigation by both Britain and Germany. Very descriptive passages on how they navigated and landed during night missions. Some excellent accounts of air combat. In a couple of cases he tracked down German survivors and got their perspective. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Must be where he got the idea for "Tommy"

AVGWarhawk
06-13-2006, 08:41 AM
Flight of Eagles (I do not have the authors name as the book is at home and I'm at work) is a great read on BoB pilots.

Grue_
06-13-2006, 10:48 AM
Ginger Lacey, Fighter Pilot is a shortish but interesting account of his war.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1854964593/qid.../203-7890316-2806357 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1854964593/qid=1150217150/sr=8-8/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i8_xgl/203-7890316-2806357)

p1ngu666
06-13-2006, 11:10 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by squadldr76:
I agree about "Figher Boys". I'm about 2 chapters shy of finishing it and so far, it's one of the best books on aerial warfare I've read. I think it really allows you to get to know a few of the pilots. It even depressed me a little when I read about the death of one of the main ones talked about.

I'll definitely be getting into a few others that are recommended on here. Does anybody have a recommendation for "The Most Dangerous Enemy" by Steven Bungay? I think it's kinda interesting how these three books use a variation of the same photo. Anybody else notice that? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

the one by the fightpilot who got burnt? its really really good http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. think i got that, the bader book and enemy coast ahead by guy gibson, all in one book http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

Haigotron
06-14-2006, 09:39 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">"You will feel that you are there in the cockpit with him, at 20 thousand feet. Being chased by a Heinkel, your ammunition gone." </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Clearly, we have misinterpreted what he said, I believe an He111 was chasing his spit, and the nose gunner was shooting at him with sniper precision...my god, I'll have nightmares for years

Lowenherz
06-26-2006, 06:00 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by AWL_Spinner:
In addition to those above, thumbs up for:

Fighter Pilot (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0304363391/qid=1150109614/sr=8-2/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i2_xgl/203-7888898-5414342) by Paul Richey - an excellent book for Hurri lovers and those interested in the Battle of France. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, brilliant book. And it surprised me when I first read of the ME-109s they shot down.