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killzab
12-04-2011, 09:06 AM
I don't understand why they just won't stick to one perfect look and stick to it. A lot of people complained about not being allowed to play with Ezio's look from the cover in Brotherhood. But this is the same case in Revelations.

If you look at the cover or different CGI promotional images, you can see Ezio's look was different, with many subtle things.

First, he was supposed to be blue, and only the hood in grey. What we got was plain grey which is a little bland.

The hookblade... WTF ? If you look at the cover, the hook was on the middle of the blade which makes so much MORE SENSE ! How can he stab people with his hook when the tip is round ?

And last two things, the fur was shaped differently and looked better, and the cape as seen in the Woodkin trailer ( as in not covering his arm) was a nice addition.
I won't even mention his face which is a problem on its own ...

Here's a picture so you can see :

http://xbox360media.ign.com/xb...17102439532_640w.jpg (http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/118/1188451/assassins-creed-revelations-20110817102439532_640w.jpg)

He looked so great ...

RzaRecta357
12-04-2011, 10:07 AM
I have a GRAND idea.

Get over it.

One was artwork. One was in game. Get over it.


HEY. Guess what!? It's the last time you'll ever see him in game again anyway as

SPOILERS!!!

He's dead and they're moving on.

LightRey
12-04-2011, 10:22 AM
What an original topic is this. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

I wonder who this worst guy is and why they changed it for him.

killzab
12-04-2011, 10:33 AM
It's my opinion and I have the right to express it ... And if it can help convince the devs to finally put the promotional outfits in the game, I'll continue.

LightRey
12-04-2011, 10:46 AM
Originally posted by killzab:
It's my opinion and I have the right to express it ... And if it can help convince the devs to finally put the promotional outfits in the game, I'll continue.
Maybe, but you don't have the right to create new threads for topics for which there are threads already, which is the case here.

killzab
12-04-2011, 10:47 AM
I didn't find any thread adressing this particular problem.

LightRey
12-04-2011, 11:01 AM
There's at least 2 other threads like this (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/2781049169?r=5591049169#5591049169).

killzab
12-04-2011, 11:08 AM
they're complaining about the faces, I'm just mentionning the outfits.

itsamea-mario
12-04-2011, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by killzab:
It's my opinion and I have the right to express it ... And if it can help convince the devs to finally put the promotional outfits in the game, I'll continue.

Yes, you have the right to state your opinion.

And I have to right to think your opinion is stupid and should be made void.

But I do agree with the hookblade thing.

Bones206
12-04-2011, 11:15 AM
i know that suck and just so by the way the hookblade as said in the game is the hook and the blade so why did they not just keep it to two mechanisms the hook on the outside and the blade just underneath it.

donngold
12-04-2011, 11:21 AM
You guys are *******s. Does it make u happy to be mean for no reason

itsamea-mario
12-04-2011, 11:28 AM
Well duh.

Besides the OP isn't exactly singing merrily full of glee, handing out roses and giving candy to orphans.

LightRey
12-04-2011, 11:41 AM
Originally posted by donngold:
You guys are *******s. Does it make u happy to be mean for no reason
I like how ironically hypocritical this post is.

itsamea-mario
12-04-2011, 11:43 AM
Quite.

killzab
12-04-2011, 12:04 PM
You are both being disrespectful, where was I "mean" in my first post, I just expressed my opinion. You are dictators of thought, throwing away what opinion you don't find "worthy", if you don't care about what I say, don't answer.

eagleforlife1
12-04-2011, 12:11 PM
Originally posted by killzab:
You are both being disrespectful, where was I "mean" in my first post, I just expressed my opinion. You are dictators of thought, throwing away what opinion you don't find "worthy", if you don't care about what I say, don't answer.

This is true.

albertwesker22
12-04-2011, 12:14 PM
Originally posted by eagleforlife1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by killzab:
You are both being disrespectful, where was I "mean" in my first post, I just expressed my opinion. You are dictators of thought, throwing away what opinion you don't find "worthy", if you don't care about what I say, don't answer.

This is true. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

This is not true.

LightRey
12-04-2011, 12:14 PM
Originally posted by killzab:
You are both being disrespectful, where was I "mean" in my first post, I just expressed my opinion. You are dictators of thought, throwing away what opinion you don't find "worthy", if you don't care about what I say, don't answer.
Who said we weren't being mean?

We're allowed to post our opinions just as much as you are and that's what we did.

killzab
12-04-2011, 12:22 PM
you can in a more respectful way, in any case itsamea-mario certainly didn't

LightRey
12-04-2011, 12:34 PM
Originally posted by killzab:
you can in a more respectful way, in any case itsamea-mario certainly didn't
Yep, we can indeed.

killzab
12-04-2011, 12:36 PM
Then you admit you're a ******bag http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

LightRey
12-04-2011, 12:41 PM
Originally posted by killzab:
Then you admit you're a ******bag http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
At least I'm admitting it.

itsamea-mario
12-04-2011, 12:50 PM
You lot are no better than us in this.

We have a right to our opinion, my opinion is that the OP is mostly wrong.
That doesn't mean he Is wrong, just that I disagree with him.

You however are telling us that we shouldn't have opinions, unless they're 'nice'.

We're being mean, but you're being facists.

albertwesker22
12-04-2011, 12:51 PM
Originally posted by itsamea-mario:
You lot are no better than us in this.

We have a right to our opinion, my opinion is that the OP is mostly wrong.
That doesn't mean he Is wrong, just that I disagree with him.

You however are telling us that we shouldn't have opinions, unless they're 'nice'.

We're being mean, but you're being facists.

They must be Labour members http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

killzab
12-04-2011, 01:04 PM
No you can think whatever you want but put it more nicely that's all. There is a difference between " I disagree with you, am content with Ezio's look and think it is not a major issue" and " your opinion is stupid and you should just shut up", you're the fascists there.

itsamea-mario
12-04-2011, 01:08 PM
I said I have the right to think your opinion is stupid and should be made void.

I didn't say I DO think that, nor did I say it was true, I was just countering his argument that he has the right to an opinion, which he does.

And don't tell me how to speak, I find that very offensive, I shall be having words with your advisor.

LightRey
12-04-2011, 01:09 PM
Originally posted by killzab:
No you can think whatever you want but put it more nicely that's all. There is a difference between " I disagree with you, am content with Ezio's look and think it is not a major issue" and " your opinion is stupid and you should just shut up", you're the fascists there.
Yet you're the only one throwing around words like "******bag".

donngold
12-04-2011, 01:30 PM
Well he/she calls it like he/she sees it

LightRey
12-04-2011, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by donngold:
Well he/she calls it like he/she sees it
Be that as it may, swearing is against the rules and it's somewhat hypocritical.

donngold
12-04-2011, 01:43 PM
Is it your job to tell me that???

SolidSage
12-04-2011, 01:43 PM
There are complaints that I find reasonable and complaints that 'I' think are a bit too micro-critiquing in nature.
This one, I think is a bit inane. You can change the outfit color to blueish if it's that important, the armor changes the fur look as you upgrade it anyway.

The hook? Okay you're right.

itsamea-mario
12-04-2011, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by donngold:
Well he/she calls it like he/she sees it

Well That has to be the most hypocritical thing I've heard today.

So it's okay for them to say what they think, but not for us.
Your almighty wisdom astounds me.

LightRey
12-04-2011, 01:56 PM
Originally posted by donngold:
Is it your job to tell me that???
Nope. Is it your job to care?

S-EVANS
12-04-2011, 02:20 PM
I don't understand why they just won't stick to one perfect look and stick to it. A lot of people complained about not being allowed to play with Ezio's look from the cover in Brotherhood. But this is the same case in Revelations.

If you look at the cover or different CGI promotional images, you can see Ezio's look was different, with many subtle things.

First, he was supposed to be blue, and only the hood in grey. What we got was plain grey which is a little bland.

Computerized graphics have limitations, you ever walked past a cafe and seen a wonderful picture of a full english breakfast and when you order it looks nothing like it. well the same principle applies to what your saying here...

Cover art and FMV can be rendered in a much better quailty because they have less restrictions to adhere too.


The hookblade... WTF ? If you look at the cover, the hook was on the middle of the blade which makes so much MORE SENSE ! How can he stab people with his hook when the tip is round ?

again same principle ingame they have to make the hookblade do two things:

1. kill
2. appear to extend reach

during a killing pattern you dont need to see the blade to understand the action, but to enforce the reach and the feeling of that, you need to visualize it. hence why in the game the hook appears at the end.

The main focus is pixels, and theres other factors but in order to make a computer rendering in all aspects look right (for lack of a better term) adjustments have to be made, for example...

if you got what you wanted here, someone would point out that when ezio grabs with his hookblade the edge of the blade is what catches the ledge not the hook.

its all down to limitations !!!


And last two things, the fur was shaped differently and looked better, and the cape as seen in the Woodkin trailer ( as in not covering his arm) was a nice addition.

you just at the moment cant create ingame graphics to the degree of your expectations, but things will improve.

it all comes down to the limitations, even the link you provide is not a gameplay image. show me a gameplay picture of any game that can match its cover art ?

ProdiGurl
12-04-2011, 02:33 PM
I don't doubt that for actual gameplay, they aren't going to deliver some perfectly done CGI character.
People really complained in ACB about how ridiculous it was to put Ezio in that garb when it didn't fit his surroundings at all.
Civilians looked totally different & he stood out.

So now AC devs make him fit in, and people complain that he doesn't look stellar in a sleek outfit in ACR.
?
Honestly, game creators just can't win. The same thing is happening w/ other aspects of the game.
Many complained that ACB was just too hard (esp. w/ syncs), so they tone it down & now they're attacked for it being too easy & amp up the difficulty.

I think we're spoiled w/ all these great games.
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NuclearFuss
12-04-2011, 02:42 PM
Guys, calm down. Can't we all get along?

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Krayus Korianis
12-04-2011, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by ProdiGurl:
I think we're spoiled w/ all these great games.
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I think everyone is a moron who complain about everything in games... I'd imagine they complained that movies are boring, short or otherwise unrelenting on their entertainment factor of zero.

ProdiGurl
12-04-2011, 03:51 PM
Originally posted by Krayus_Korianis:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ProdiGurl:
I think we're spoiled w/ all these great games.
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

I think everyone is a moron who complain about everything in games... I'd imagine they complained that movies are boring, short or otherwise unrelenting on their entertainment factor of zero. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I was trying to be nice about it, but ...
I've said it before, but I used to play the old PC RPG games when they had 8 disks lol
Talk about choppy & cartoony - but hey, that was awesome stuff!

The stuff they complain about today is basically that we don't have movie quality graphics & abilities in a game - and the shade of purple they used was horrid.
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These are just games. Plus, these days, people blow thru a long game in 2 days & are screaming for the next installment of the series tomorrow. Then rip it to shreds when they get it.

I know alot don't do that, but sometimes it seems that way. I know the amount of work & tech. it takes to put this stuff together - just look at the credits
(speaking of that, I saw a few hateful comments to Ubi to kill the long credits, they're boring). I just bet if THEY worked on the game that they'd demand their name roll by at the end.

Some of this stuff just makes me feel bad for creators of games.


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AdmiralPerry
12-04-2011, 05:23 PM
Agree 100% ProdiGurl. I would probably die a happy death if game graphics got as good as they are in opening cutscenes--but then there would be something better, and the cycle would start all over again. Maybe I'm just easily amused, or my standards are low, or whatever, but there are some things that I just don't see the point in fussing over. And yeah, the credits were long--probably the longest set I've had to sit through in a good while--but it just made me appreciate all the more what went into this game. Heck, it takes a great amount of teamwork to make games!

And, the last time I looked, we were all free to express our opinions, but we probably need to go back and learn a few lessons on how to do so with tact. We're not tactless minstrels here.

ace3001
12-04-2011, 07:37 PM
I don't mind a lot of these things, but I agree about the hookblade. I really don't see how Ezio can stab with that blade when the hook is at the tip. But he somehow does it if you perform a dual assassination. I guess it's part of the whole "The standard Ottoman hookblade has two parts, you see. The hook, and the blade, so you can use one, or the other." http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
But yeah, the way it is in the artwork would've made more sense.

donngold
12-04-2011, 08:51 PM
I could care less about anything this topic was made about but i didnt understand why people feel the need to be mean for no reason. Its not like he was trolling, OMG UBISUCK R DUM!!! THEY MAKE ENZIO CRAPYE LOOKS!

Animuses
12-04-2011, 10:51 PM
This thread is pathetic.

itsamea-mario
12-05-2011, 01:03 AM
You like that word dont you?

Grandmaster_Z
12-05-2011, 06:48 AM
lets all meet up and fight

JJTHoukes
12-05-2011, 08:00 AM
Just like "pathetic" suits this thread well, so does "Elitists".
Some users who've been here for a while think they're above others, I've noticed.
The only think your extensive knowledge of the Assassin's Creed series proves is that you've too much time on your hands and would rather spend it all by playing a videogame and reading it's books, to find out every bit of fictional information, then by getting a job and leaving your parents' house like the *****es with keyboards you are.

RzaRecta357
12-05-2011, 08:11 AM
Oh look. There that famous internet kid who tells you that you live with your parents and must be a mega nerd because you're smart enough to catch the little things and might read the books.


You're cool and funny like Daniel tosh or Dane cook or something.

...

ProdiGurl
12-05-2011, 08:19 AM
Tosh lol

I'm fine with some valid, constructive criticism where it's due. & I'm w/ the other poster here that not rudely delivering it is important (not that this OP did that).

ACR isn't perfection, but then most good games aren't either.
I'm just noticing comments like "I have to wait 2-3 seconds for the map to load.....
wow, 2-3 seconds is just eternity.
Maybe it's just me but I notice no sluggish menu or lag...
someone ragged about the boring credits no one cares about & to put an end to them or shorten them up . .
all kinds of petty or rude crap.
That's the stuff most people dislike & go after.
It's not that I live at home & know every bit of info & history from this game.
Heck I WISH my parents bought me games.

Mr_Shade
12-05-2011, 08:25 AM
I'm locking the thread...

Guys if you can't have a civil debate - I suggest you don't post..