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HungaroJET
11-09-2004, 03:54 PM
My wishes: (if U C AI ---> I mean at least AI )

Petlyakov Pe-2 - Dive Bomber...Flyable
Petlyakov Pe-3bis - Heavy Interceptor/Bomber...Flyable
Petlyakov Pe-8 - Heavy Bomber...Flyable
Tupolev Tu-2S - Light Bomber/Dive Bomber...Flyable
Henschel Hs-123A-1 - Dive Bomber...Flyable
Henschel Hs-129B-2 - Attacker/Bomber...Flyable
Heinkel He-177A-3 - Heavy Bomber...AI
Heinkel He-177A-5/R2 - Heavy Bomber...AI
Heinkel He-219A-7/R1 - Fighter Bomber...Flyable
Junkers Ju 88A - Medium Bomber...Flyable
Junkers Ju 88C-6 - Medium Bomber...Flyable
Junkers Ju 88P-4 - Medium Bomber...Flyable
Dornier Do 215A-1 - Medium Bomber...AI
Dornier Do 217E-3 - Heavy Bomber...AI
Dornier Do 335A-1 - Fighter Bomber...Flyable
Dornier Do 335B-2 - Fighter Bomber...Flyable
Messerschmitt Me-210Ca-1 - Heavy fighter/Fast bomber...Flyable
de Havilland Mosquito B. IV - Light Bomber...AI
de Havilland Mosquito F.B. VI - Fighter Bomber...AI
de Havilland Mosquito F.B. XVIII - Fighter Bomber...AI
Hawker Tempest MkV - Fighter Bomber...AI
Hawker Typhoon MkIB - Fighter Bomber...Flyable
de Havilland Vampire F MkI - Jet Fighter...AI
Curtiss (X)P-55A - Fighter Bomber...AI
Bell (X)P-59A - Jet Fighter...AI
Boeing B-17G - Heavy Bomber...Flyable
Yokosuka MXY7 "Ohka" - Kamikaze Jet Aircraft...AI

Tintin-B17
11-09-2004, 04:40 PM
hah your wishes are also my wishes but they will never come true..instead u will get an add on with lots of variants of the same plane, or some new fighter no one ever heard of, its always the same....just for once i wish they didnt do that.

VW-IceFire
11-09-2004, 04:50 PM
I LIKE that list...and some of it may very well come true.

Tempest V flyable no doubt soon. Typhoon IB I don't know...Harti said it was with Oleg but we haven't seen it for a while. Do-335 another good possibility. Oh and Mosquito and Pe-2 yes...some of the others I'm not so sure about.

HungaroJET
11-09-2004, 04:56 PM
Guys...THX 4 responds http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

A.K.Davis
11-09-2004, 05:09 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by HungaroJET:
My wishes: (if U C AI ---> I mean at least AI )

Petlyakov Pe-2 - Dive Bomber...Flyable [probably]
Petlyakov Pe-3bis - Heavy Interceptor/Bomber...Flyable [no]
Petlyakov Pe-8 - Heavy Bomber...Flyable [no]
Tupolev Tu-2S - Light Bomber/Dive Bomber...Flyable [no]
Henschel Hs-123A-1 - Dive Bomber...Flyable [no]
Heinkel He-177A-3 - Heavy Bomber...AI [probably not]
Heinkel He-177A-5/R2 - Heavy Bomber...AI [probably not]
Heinkel He-219A-7/R1 - Fighter Bomber...Flyable [no]
Junkers Ju 88A - Medium Bomber...Flyable [yes]
Junkers Ju 88C-6 - Medium Bomber...Flyable [yes]
Junkers Ju 88P-4 - Medium Bomber...Flyable [probably not]
Dornier Do 215A-1 - Medium Bomber...AI [probably not]
Dornier Do 217E-3 - Heavy Bomber...AI [probably not]
Dornier Do 335A-1 - Fighter Bomber...Flyable [yes]
Dornier Do 335B-2 - Fighter Bomber...Flyable [no]
Messerschmitt Me-210Ca-1 - Heavy fighter/Fast bomber...Flyable [no]
de Havilland Mosquito B. IV - Light Bomber...AI [maybe]
de Havilland Mosquito F.B. VI - Fighter Bomber...AI [maybe]
de Havilland Mosquito F.B. XVIII - Fighter Bomber...AI [maybe]
Hawker Tempest MkV - Fighter Bomber...AI [flyable soon]
Hawker Typhoon MkIB - Fighter Bomber...Flyable [probably not]
de Havilland Vampire F MkI - Jet Fighter...AI [no]
Curtiss (X)P-55A - Fighter Bomber...AI [no]
Bell (X)P-59A - Jet Fighter...AI [no]
Boeing B-17G - Heavy Bomber...Flyable [no] <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

lbhskier37
11-09-2004, 08:06 PM
xp-59 lol

Arm_slinger
11-10-2004, 09:17 AM
I think varients of most of them planes will be flyable:

The mozzie will be flyable
The Pe 2 will be flyable
The Ju88 will be flyable
Henschel Hs-129B- being worked on
Do 217, being worked on last i heard
Messerschmitt Me-210Ca-1 being worked on to be flyable i think

The Ohka is coming in patch as AI http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Gibbage1
11-10-2004, 02:04 PM
P-55? Why? Wait. Your from CFS3 hay? That figures.

Wert4562
11-10-2004, 07:22 PM
Speaking of the Tempest V, didja know it's listed as AI in the AEP booklet/CD case cover?


S'far as I know, it's done.


Hopefully soon we shall have it!

HungaroJET
11-11-2004, 05:34 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Gibbage1:
P-55? Why? Wait. Your from CFS3 hay? That figures. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

U R Wrong...

http://aeroweb.brooklyn.cuny.edu/database/aircraft/showimage.php?id=1609

http://aeroweb.brooklyn.cuny.edu/database/aircraft/showimage.php?id=1608

http://aeroweb.brooklyn.cuny.edu/database/aircraft/showimage.php?id=2575

jeroen_R90S
11-12-2004, 12:50 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Wert4562:
Speaking of the Tempest V, didja know it's listed as AI in the AEP booklet/CD case cover?


S'far as I know, it's done.


Hopefully soon we shall have it! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The back of my PF boxie also lists G4M1 as flyable... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Jeroen

Tintin-B17
11-12-2004, 02:41 PM
seems the pacific fighters box lies a lot...

A.K.Davis
11-12-2004, 04:07 PM
G4M1 is flyable, we just don't have it yet. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

HungaroJET
01-01-2005, 07:25 PM
SRY...just a bump...do not forget...

LEXX_Luthor
01-01-2005, 07:45 PM
TintinB17:: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>or some new fighter no one ever heard of <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Microsoft has all teh fighters everybody ever heard of http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif


My wish list...(Flyable)

He~100D (retractable radiator)
MiG I~224
MiG I~225
He~177
Ju~188 (88 coming soon)
Fw~187
Ar~234
Su~2
Pe~2
Bf~109Dora (a real Dora http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif for real flight simmers)
Polikarpov I~17
Hs~123
I~152
IL~10
SB2
DB3 (early)
Tu~2
IL~4
Ki~27
Anything Italian
AVIA B.534

...and....MiG~13

AlmightyTallest
01-01-2005, 08:21 PM
lol, am I one of the few that would like to see more Pacific Fighters aircraft? Seems like everyone else wants more Russian and German aircraft by these posts. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Things I'd personally like to see to enhance the Pacific Fighters experience:

The following I wish could be Flyable :

F4U-4 and F4U-4C variant
P-47N
Ki-100 both old and newer bubble canopy variants
J2M3 plus all variants
N1K1 and N1K2 and variants
TBF/TBM
Jill
Kate
B-25H Strafer both variants with and without Radar range finder for anti-shipping work.
B-25J Solid Nose Strafer
B-29


A Yamato class Battleship and Iowa class Battleship would be nice as well. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Just my list of wishes, figured I'd throw them out

jdlnorcal
01-01-2005, 09:04 PM
Forget those arm long lists, what we REALLY need in a sim that is set in the PACIFIC THEATER is, Torpedo planes, both ours and theirs.
I mean how are we to fly Midway, or Pearl, without them????
This is so obvious there must be some reason they are not there. I for one will pay for them, Oleg. Just put them in where they belong.

LEXX_Luthor
01-01-2005, 09:05 PM
Yes, more Japanese planes... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

A5M
G3M
Ki~10
Ki~15
Ki~21
Ki~27
China map....or....Map of China http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

GoToAway
01-01-2005, 09:56 PM
I suppose I'll play this game. Here is my top 20 flyable wish list in order:

1.)P-61
2.)Mosquito
3.)P-38E/F/G/H
4.)P-36
5.)A5M
6.)Missing Spits
7.)Il-10
8.)La-9
9.)Hs-129
10.)Ju-88/188
11.)B5N
12.)F4U-4
13.)Tempest
14.)A-26
15.)B-25H
16.)P-47N
17.)P-40N
18.)B-17G
19.)B-26
20.)G3M

Oddities/Aircraft that didn't see much/any service:
1.) P-35 (interesting in that both the US and IJN flew them)
2.) F7F (P-61 armament in P-38 size)
3.) F8F (so close to seeing service...)
4.) P-26 (long before WW2, but it's an interesting aircraft)
5.) Il-8 (for the same of completeness)

Copperhead310th
01-01-2005, 10:02 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by lbhskier37:
xp-59 lol <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


What's so funny? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

sapre
01-01-2005, 10:19 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by GoToAway:
I suppose I'll play this game. Here is my top 20 flyable wish list in order:

1.)P-61
2.)Mosquito
3.)P-38E/F/G/H
4.)P-36
5.)A5M
6.)Missing Spits
7.)Il-10
8.)La-9
9.)Hs-129
10.)Ju-88/188
11.)B5N
12.)F4U-4
13.)Tempest
14.)A-26
15.)B-25H
16.)P-47N
17.)P-40N
18.)B-17G
19.)B-26
20.)G3M

Oddities/Aircraft that didn't see much/any service:
1.) P-35 (interesting in that both the US and IJN flew them)
2.) F7F (P-61 armament in P-38 size)
3.) F8F (so close to seeing service...)
4.) P-26 (long before WW2, but it's an interesting aircraft)
5.) Il-8 (for the same of completeness) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

P-61 is a night fighter right?
How can we use a night fighter with current game engine?

JG7_Rall
01-01-2005, 10:38 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sapre:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by GoToAway:
I suppose I'll play this game. Here is my top 20 flyable wish list in order:

1.)P-61
2.)Mosquito
3.)P-38E/F/G/H
4.)P-36
5.)A5M
6.)Missing Spits
7.)Il-10
8.)La-9
9.)Hs-129
10.)Ju-88/188
11.)B5N
12.)F4U-4
13.)Tempest
14.)A-26
15.)B-25H
16.)P-47N
17.)P-40N
18.)B-17G
19.)B-26
20.)G3M

Oddities/Aircraft that didn't see much/any service:
1.) P-35 (interesting in that both the US and IJN flew them)
2.) F7F (P-61 armament in P-38 size)
3.) F8F (so close to seeing service...)
4.) P-26 (long before WW2, but it's an interesting aircraft)
5.) Il-8 (for the same of completeness) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

P-61 is a night fighter right?
How can we use a night fighter with current game engine? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

We could disable the built in clock in the cockpit that didn't allow it to fly during the day...

LStarosta
01-01-2005, 10:39 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JG7_Rall:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sapre:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by GoToAway:
I suppose I'll play this game. Here is my top 20 flyable wish list in order:

1.)P-61
2.)Mosquito
3.)P-38E/F/G/H
4.)P-36
5.)A5M
6.)Missing Spits
7.)Il-10
8.)La-9
9.)Hs-129
10.)Ju-88/188
11.)B5N
12.)F4U-4
13.)Tempest
14.)A-26
15.)B-25H
16.)P-47N
17.)P-40N
18.)B-17G
19.)B-26
20.)G3M

Oddities/Aircraft that didn't see much/any service:
1.) P-35 (interesting in that both the US and IJN flew them)
2.) F7F (P-61 armament in P-38 size)
3.) F8F (so close to seeing service...)
4.) P-26 (long before WW2, but it's an interesting aircraft)
5.) Il-8 (for the same of completeness) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

P-61 is a night fighter right?
How can we use a night fighter with current game engine? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

We could disable the built in clock in the cockpit that didn't allow it to fly during the day... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

LOL!

GoToAway
01-01-2005, 10:43 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sapre:
P-61 is a night fighter right?
How can we use a night fighter with current game engine? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>It's a wish list. Part of it includes a radar simulation. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

The P-61 is a facinating plane...
It's too bad that it'll probably never be in a worthy sim. I'd love to see Oleg take a stab at it.

CV8_Dudeness
01-02-2005, 04:44 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Copperhead310th:
What's so funny? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
well . . . . it didnt need bandits in the air for it to impact into the earth

seriously , while it looks cool , it had total **** handeling , no doubt helped by being underpowered . But do plz add a 1900 Hp version of it to fight the Shinden we also deserve to have

both would be super fun , no question

Aaron_GT
01-02-2005, 04:49 AM
The following saw little or no action and should have very low priority (waste of resources):

Dornier Do 335A-1 - Fighter Bomber...Flyable
Dornier Do 335B-2 - Fighter Bomber...Flyable
de Havilland Mosquito F.B. XVIII
de Havilland Vampire F MkI - Jet Fighter...AI
Curtiss (X)P-55A - Fighter Bomber...AI
Bell (X)P-59A - Jet Fighter...AI
Yokosuka MXY7 "Ohka" - Kamikaze Jet Aircraft...AI

NorrisMcWhirter
01-02-2005, 05:21 AM
Hi,

The original list sounds just perfect.

I'd say that it's not necessarily important that large production figures = definite inclusion because that means we would lose some of the more eccentric aircraft (such as the 335). I have the idea that Oleg thinks that all aircraft should be celebrated (especially if someone submits a decent model of it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif) and that has given us a nicely rounded game.

Cheers,
Norris

NN_EnigmuS
01-02-2005, 05:21 AM
my wish list of flyable:
tempest
typhoon
spit mk14
mosquito
fwd11/12/13
ju88
italians planes(sorry don't know all the name but all who where worked on by med club)
kate
avenger
betty
Ms406
pe2/3
hs129
hs123

boathead
01-02-2005, 05:23 AM
Hungaro,
I am in complete agreement that we could use the Ameisenbaer(Dornier 335B) in the game, one of the coolest planes of WWII!

CKY_86
01-02-2005, 05:45 AM
id like to see a few more luftwaffe heaveys like
junkers ju 290
junkers ju 390

sapre
01-02-2005, 06:02 AM
My "wish list"

P38F
P47C
P47N
P51A
F4U-4
F8F
F86
Mig-15
Tempest
Typhoon
Spitfire XIV
Helldiver
Avenger
Devastator
Vindicator
Raiden
Shiden
Shiden-Kai
B5N
Tenzan
Suisei
Ginga
Ryusei
G4M
G3M
Ki-21
Ki-30
Ki-32
Ki-51
Ki-48
Ki-49
Ki-45
Ki-44
Ki-27
Ki-100
A5M
A6M3-22
A7M Reppu
F1M
C6N
E13
Ki-43-II
Ki-43-III
Ki-61-II
Shinden
Fugaku
IL-10

Kwiatos
01-02-2005, 06:28 AM
Plz no more bombo planes - these type of planes in these game flying like big ufos. I think these game is not for these planes.

Aaron_GT
01-02-2005, 07:15 AM
NorrisMcWhirter wrote:
"I'd say that it's not necessarily important that large production figures = definite inclusion because that means we would lose some of the more eccentric aircraft (such as the 335)"

Yes, but I'd rather Oleg spent his time fixing the FM of planes that saw decent amounts of service than being bombarded by those telling him that some Do335 subvariant that saw 5 picoseconds of service has its climb rate 5% undermodelled between 6000 and 6500m altitude when there is an R in the month.

p1ngu666
01-02-2005, 08:13 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Aaron_GT:
NorrisMcWhirter wrote:
"I'd say that it's not necessarily important that large production figures = definite inclusion because that means we would lose some of the more eccentric aircraft (such as the 335)"

Yes, but I'd rather Oleg spent his time fixing the FM of planes that saw decent amounts of service than being bombarded by those telling him that some Do335 subvariant that saw 5 picoseconds of service has its climb rate 5% undermodelled between 6000 and 6500m altitude when there is an R in the month. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

we dont need more lw heavies, we need raf heavies http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif
i give u the mighty avro lancaster

http://www.pingu666.modded.me.uk/mags/lanc/

imagine a plane taking nearly double the bomb load of a b24/b17, and a wider variety of bombs too.
imagine a plane that took those bombs to the heartland of the enemy, again and again, from march 42, till the last days of the war.

a plane with no less than 4 merlins, a plane that takes the biggest bomb of ww2, and drops it with deadly acuracy.

a plane that was best in class for 2-3 years, untill they fixed the b29 in 45...

the mossie too, a truely supperlative aircraft http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

mossie can be sumed up with these smilies
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

the importantness of british aircraft is not realised until u ask this question...

"where would we be without them?"

GonzoX
01-02-2005, 08:14 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Aaron_GT:
The following saw little or no action and should have very low priority (waste of resources):

Dornier Do 335A-1 - Fighter Bomber...Flyable
Dornier Do 335B-2 - Fighter Bomber...Flyable
de Havilland Mosquito F.B. XVIII
de Havilland Vampire F MkI - Jet Fighter...AI
Curtiss (X)P-55A - Fighter Bomber...AI
Bell (X)P-59A - Jet Fighter...AI
Yokosuka MXY7 "Ohka" - Kamikaze Jet Aircraft...AI <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

And whos resources are you referring too? Yours?

Do335 is NOT being made by 1C but by a guy who simply wants it in the Sim enough to work hard at moddeling it. They are HIS resources.

Bogun
01-02-2005, 09:33 AM
Guys,
Would Oleg be forced to do all those planes ‚‚ā¨" BoB will never see the light of day, his team will never ever get any time for little thing like new sim development‚‚ā¨¬¶

My opinion:
Now Sim with the name IL-2/FB really-relly missing just three or four flyable planes to be as complete as it should be:
Henschel Hs 129
Petlyakov Pe-2
Ilushin IL-10
I did not forget of Ju-88 being near ready‚‚ā¨¬¶

AEP is missing:
Mosquito
Tornado
Tempest
Spitfire Mk.XIV

And PF is missing:
Mitsubishi G4M Betty or Mitsubishi Ki-21 Sally
Nakajima B5N1 Kate
Douglas TBD Devastator or/and Grumman TBF/TBM Avenger

Even I could come up with pretty sizable list of planes, which would sure detract Oleg‚‚ā¨ôs team from developing BoB‚‚ā¨¬¶ Well, we all can dream‚‚ā¨¬¶

NorrisMcWhirter
01-02-2005, 09:42 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Aaron_GT:
NorrisMcWhirter wrote:
"I'd say that it's not necessarily important that large production figures = definite inclusion because that means we would lose some of the more eccentric aircraft (such as the 335)"

Yes, but I'd rather Oleg spent his time fixing the FM of planes that saw decent amounts of service than being bombarded by those telling him that some Do335 subvariant that saw 5 picoseconds of service has its climb rate 5% undermodelled between 6000 and 6500m altitude when there is an R in the month. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

As opposed to "fixing" items that "saw decent amounts of service" such as when he admitted that the .50s were now a-historical because he was barracked into making them so. With respect, your comment was a bit presumptuous.

Besides, that same argument can be levelled at any plane in the game; whether there is more or less data available doesn't seem to make a lot of difference; for example, the Faber FW190 vs Spit Vb comparison. There was a nice body of evidence passed off as a lot of propaganda/being inaccurate.

Personally, I'd like to fly the Do335 just to see how it would have fared if they were built in number. If it's any good, it will be banned from fanbois servers anyway http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif but that shouldn't stop people who fly offline enjoying it.

Cheers,
norris

MEGILE
01-02-2005, 11:03 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> If it's any good, it will be banned from fanbois servers anyway <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yup, just like the P-63. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

NorrisMcWhirter
01-02-2005, 03:04 PM
Hi,

That was mostly because of the DM flaw...i.e. phantom wings that appear to be there but which can travel right through streams of cannon fire in a ghostly manner http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I've seen P63s on servers. Still see 262s very rarely..which is a shame because they really do show how far ahead of it's time that aircraft was.


Cheers,
Norris

cygfrain
01-02-2005, 03:04 PM
These are the planes I'd really like in order of importance please:-

1 Hawker Tempest MkV - Fighter Bomber...Flyable
2 Hawker Typhoon MkIB - FighterBomber...Flyable
3 Mosquito F.B. VI - Fighter Bomber...Flyable
4 Mosquito B. IV - Light Bomber...Flyable

Thanks for a great sim

Aaron_GT
01-02-2005, 06:37 PM
"Do335 is NOT being made by 1C but by a guy who simply wants it in the Sim enough to work hard at moddeling it."

The 3D modeller has done a fantastic job, but to be in the sim a plane needs to have the 3D cockpit checked, then the DM created, and the FM. With the new inertia coding this will be more complex. This work is all done by Oleg. If a 3rd party did all the work and it could be added as-is with all the elements completed then fair enough. But it isn't like that and new planes take time away from Oleg's team that they could devote to fixing other issues or adding other planes.

LEXX_Luthor
01-03-2005, 12:45 AM
Norris:: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I have the idea that Oleg thinks that all aircraft should be Celebrated (especially if someone submits a decent model of it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif) and that has given us a nicely rounded game.

Cheers,
Norris
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And a nicely balanced game with 13 "real" plane types for 1 "fantasy" plane type -- depending on definitions of "real" and "fantasy." Very acceptable balance here.


AaronGT:: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>The [Do335] 3D modeller has done a fantastic job, but to be in the sim a plane needs to have the 3D cockpit checked, then the DM created, and the FM. With the new inertia coding this will be more complex. This work is all done by Oleg. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
We know this "inertia coding" is for BoB, but we make this claim. Why?

Aaron_GT
01-03-2005, 04:54 AM
"We know this "inertia coding" is for BoB, but we make this claim. Why?"

I thought these changes were to be previewed in 3.04, or maybe I have that wrong? In any case bringing a new plane to the sim is a lot of work for Oleg even after the 3D model is completed. As I said the 3D model for the Do 335 looks fantastic and much like with the F4U-4 if there was not a bottleneck with Oleg's team I'd say let's have it now. But there is a bottleneck and I worry that introducing planes that saw little service will mean that other planes that are perhaps not as far advanced in terms of 3D modelling but are close and saw more service will never see the light of virtual day.

Taylortony
01-03-2005, 08:07 AM
Pah all those toy planes, my list would be

Avenger flyable,

seems laughable to do a carrier based game and not give you the capability to torpedo the **** things with the American plane.

Flyable
Swordfish
Lancaster
Halifax
Sterling
Ju88
DO17
B17
Liberator
ME323 well we can all hope http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
C47
Sunderland
Catalina

That way you could have escort missions and bomb the proverbial out of each other, would be nice to have realtime damage to the airfields too so taking out runways fuel etc means you have to move or use the grass etc etc well this is fantasy pacific islands

AlmightyTallest
01-03-2005, 03:19 PM
What would be really great is to have American Task Groups and Japanese Task Groups capable of fighting each other. Online, Japanese and American Carrier pilots could fly against each other, and even attempt to strike the ships in the opposing task groups. Others would fly CAP and attempt to intercept the incoming bandits. Would have been very nice offline and online for sure.

Man that would be the greatest, but I'm dreaming.. I know. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

GonzoX
01-03-2005, 05:43 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Aaron_GT:
"Do335 is NOT being made by 1C but by a guy who simply wants it in the Sim enough to work hard at moddeling it."

The 3D modeller has done a fantastic job, but to be in the sim a plane needs to have the 3D cockpit checked, then the DM created, and the FM. With the new inertia coding this will be more complex. This work is all done by Oleg. If a 3rd party did all the work and it could be added as-is with all the elements completed then fair enough. But it isn't like that and new planes take time away from Oleg's team that they could devote to fixing other issues or adding other planes. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

True, but consider this...

If it weren't for people like the guy doing the Ju88 or Do335, we would be doing without a ton of planes that are now in the game.

I see constant complaints about resources this and resources that but the complainers are not doing anthing to contribute towards "their" preferred planes. Only complaints about the ones that have an initiative and drive behind them. I find this very ironic.

I have always believed in not looking a gift horse in the mouth.

LEXX_Luthor
01-03-2005, 06:30 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
And...we *always* find Contradictions in *every* post they make. We have about 15-20 "real" planes for every 1 "fantasy" plane, so we find a Contradiction in the posts claiming "fantasy" planes devour the Resources.

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dadada1
01-04-2005, 04:19 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by GonzoX:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Aaron_GT:
"Do335 is NOT being made by 1C but by a guy who simply wants it in the Sim enough to work hard at moddeling it."

The 3D modeller has done a fantastic job, but to be in the sim a plane needs to have the 3D cockpit checked, then the DM created, and the FM. With the new inertia coding this will be more complex. This work is all done by Oleg. If a 3rd party did all the work and it could be added as-is with all the elements completed then fair enough. But it isn't like that and new planes take time away from Oleg's team that they could devote to fixing other issues or adding other planes. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

True, but consider this...

If it weren't for people like the guy doing the Ju88 or Do335, we would be doing without a ton of planes that are now in the game.

I see constant complaints about resources this and resources that but the complainers are not doing anthing to contribute towards "their" preferred planes. Only complaints about the ones that have an initiative and drive behind them. I find this very ironic.

I have always believed in not looking a gift horse in the mouth. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Absolutely 100% agree with you. This reply should be made a sticky to try to remind and provoke thought to those who clearly are challenged in that department

Rab03
01-04-2005, 06:22 AM
SM79, please http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif
IK-3, please http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif,
Do-17P, please http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif,
Do-17Z, please http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif,
Hs-129, please http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif,
Do-335 two seater, please http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif,
Do-335, please http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif,
Black widow, please http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif,
Tempest, please http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif,
Typhoon, please http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif.

(all flyable, please).

gates123
01-04-2005, 12:50 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by gates123:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by cygfrain:
These are the planes I'd really like in order of importance please:-

1 Hawker Tempest MkV - Fighter Bomber...Flyable
2 Hawker Typhoon MkIB - FighterBomber...Flyable
3 Mosquito F.B. VI - Fighter Bomber...Flyable
4 Mosquito B. IV - Light Bomber...Flyable

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Those with the additions of

Probables:
Ju-88
IL-10
PE-2
Italian jobs
Ki-100

Hopefulls:
Tempest
HS-129
DO-335
Avenger
DO-17

F7F (my one wish)

With these planes one can never complain about having more. This sim is and will be legendary.

Checkerboard1
01-04-2005, 03:55 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
1 Hawker Tempest MkV - Fighter Bomber...Flyable
2 Hawker Typhoon MkIB - FighterBomber...Flyable
3 Mosquito F.B. VI - Fighter Bomber...Flyable
4 Mosquito B. IV - Light Bomber...Flyable
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How come nobody wants the Gloster Meteor F3?
It did see WW2 service unlike some other jets already included in the game.

NorrisMcWhirter
01-04-2005, 04:28 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>And a nicely balanced game with 13 "real" plane types for 1 "fantasy" plane type -- depending on definitions of "real" and "fantasy." Very acceptable balance here. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You might have to elaborate and say whether you are being sarcastic, here...(I expect sarcasm as it's what I dish) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I'd say that was a reasonable balance especially if you fly offline and you'd like to see some of the more obscure aircraft around.

For example, suppose Oleg had not decided to set the game around the original Il-2 but the B-17 (done to death, IMO). Many people, including me, would have been any the wiser about the Eastern theatre and that, IMO, would be a loss.

Like I've said before, it's up to the modellers but, while I'd like to see some expansion into the Med with new aircraft...or expansion of East/West theatre with Pe2/Mossie/Tempest etc, I have absolutely no problems with fantasy aircraft like the Do335 being introduced. In fact, it's a shame there are not more Japanese aircraft included, too. I'm not demanding anything, just saying that what gets included now, for the most part, is reasonable.

Cheers,
Norris

LEXX_Luthor
01-04-2005, 05:13 PM
Its good balance overall, the "fantasy" planes are represented without crowding out any "real" planes. The critical deciding factor is the "fantasy" planes were considered by the real life people back then to be the next mass produced combat service models (the real life people back then, not the internet/computer dogfighters).

So far, there are no "fantasy" planes in the sim that were never intended for mass production by the real life people who funded, engineered, and test piloted the designs. The few "fantasy" planes in the sim were at one time the next mass production combat aircraft or direct precursors of (YP~80 for example).

This is important because we have seen calls for inclusion of that Italian research jet, but it was never intended for production or combat (even worse, Fiat G.50 was faster than the jet http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif) So like Bell's X~1 rocket and XP~59 jet, there would be no use for them in a combat sim (test pilot sim--yes). This may be the case with the rocket boosted Yak and La Oleg is making for Russian CD -- they were possibly for research only, with no intention for service production. Not sure though.

One way to make the "fantasy" plane dogfighter Whiners here at ubi.com look real small is their posts prove to others that they Hate the aircraft that Real Life combat experienced test pilots were interested in. This fails in the case of rocket boosted Yak~3R which blew up killing test pilot Rastorguev "who hated this aircraft" according to Bill Gunsten. So in my opinion Oleg should replace at least rocket boosted Yak~3 with a ASH~82FN or VK~108 powered Yak~3, or MiG I~224 or I~225. All these were promising designs but the way the WAR was going there was no need to re~tool the factories to produce these new planes (a Dyanamic Campaign could change that http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif ).

As Happy as I am to see MiG~13, MiG~9, and the mid~war jet LaGG for the Russian CD, I am saddened that the Russian CD will have Pe~2 and IL~10 without also having Flyables SB, DB3, Su~2, IL~4, and Tu~2 cockpits. All these planes together would make a great balance of "real" and "fantasy" planes. Flyable Ar~234 and He~100D with retractable radiator over Eastern Front would fit well with Russian CD. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Checkerboard1
01-05-2005, 02:02 AM
I'm with Lexx on this but I think that to balance things properly then some more British frontline planes could be included.

I want the Meteor F3
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dadada1
01-05-2005, 02:40 AM
Seems that everyone is forgetting the MC 202, MC 205, Fiat G55, and the Reggianes, these I beleive are finished and ready for inclusion. They saw service and would provide a more interesting addition than any projects of Luft, RAF, USAF, VVS would give us. Please Oleg lets have these in a future add on over other types.

WUAF_Badsight
01-05-2005, 02:45 AM
well besides a IL-10 , all we REALLY need is a Shinden

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/Badsight/Shinden.jpg

truely . . . .

Renard38
01-05-2005, 05:09 AM
My top 20 list for PF :

1. Fulmar
2. Firefly
3. Barracuda
4. Kingfisher
5. A5m
6. Ki 44
7. Ki 21
8. ki 45
9. ki 48
10. ki 102
11. ki 51
12. D4y
13. Vultee Vengeance
14. CAC Boomrang
15. CAC Wirraway
16. CW 21
17. CW 22
19. Martin 139
20. Dewoitine D510 (China)

p1ngu666
01-05-2005, 07:47 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Checkerboard1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
1 Hawker Tempest MkV - Fighter Bomber...Flyable
2 Hawker Typhoon MkIB - FighterBomber...Flyable
3 Mosquito F.B. VI - Fighter Bomber...Flyable
4 Mosquito B. IV - Light Bomber...Flyable
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

How come nobody wants the Gloster Meteor F3?
It did see WW2 service unlike some other jets already included in the game. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

not many want a lancaster either http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Turk_man
01-05-2005, 12:21 PM
I WANT A LANCASTER! or a Halifax. No planes flew as many missions and haven`t made it in the game. You know guys bombing can be fun!

No601_Zulu
01-05-2005, 12:30 PM
Whats on my sig will suit me fine

Maybe a Tropicalised Hurricane and Spitfire would be nice.

Sto1MAR1MP
01-12-2005, 02:26 AM
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