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Chasebreaker
08-18-2010, 01:37 PM
The name says it all http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif.
Should Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood include the splitscreen feature?
This poll is to determine the most desired solution whether it's not wanted at all, 2 player offline splitscreen like SplinterCell Conviction, perhaps Like Call of Duty Mw2 with 4 player splitscreen offline or maybe 4 player online splitscreen as for Halo 3.



However, There are some who have some minor problems with the feature like the trivial hassle of "screenlooking" amongst other things, those problems are being discussed in another forum, The url is found below http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/foru...024/m/5461085578/p/1 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/5461085578/p/1)

SupremeCaptain
08-18-2010, 01:43 PM
Wouldn't work. It is meant for stealth, how will it work if the other player can look where you are?

magesupermaster
08-18-2010, 01:45 PM
For the time now, there is no Co-op between Assassins/Templars or a mode that requires a split-screen.

If you have seen any of the multiplayer videos, you would have seen that there is no need for split-screen because the multiplayer aspect is mostly competitive and will only mess the gameplay between the players.

Marius_Darkwolf
08-18-2010, 01:48 PM
Immaterial, multiplayer should always have an offline aspect weither it be PVP or co op, after all some people have living friends they like to invite over to share food and drink (aka soda) with and game the night away. Not just play online with people ya might never have met in the flesh and might need to administer a beating to if ya did met them.

magesupermaster
08-18-2010, 01:54 PM
I am not saying offline multiplayer is no longer needed in this modern world of gaming, it can even be an importent aspect of socialization among youth.

For AC: Brotherhood, it is not necessary.

Chewitt321
08-18-2010, 04:24 PM
People will say noto this as the game I'd predominately based on stealth, therefore it would be ruined by screenwatching. But I was thinking of more of minigame style splitscreen:
A Streetfighter style 2d battle
A co op mode where there would be no point in screenwatching.
A point system so if you can't play at the same time you can still compete to see who gets more points and therefore wins.

Just a few ideas I thought should be put out in the open
See ya
Chewitt321

Sithis23
08-18-2010, 09:25 PM
Wouldn't work in the Wanted game mode but could be very interesting in other game modes!
And it really cant hurt to have it anyways!

hawk0930
08-19-2010, 05:49 AM
I know you guys don't want it because it is based on stealth and screen watching would ruin it and i agree but why does it have to be against each other. I was thinking why it can't be a team mode against AI units, where you work together to assassinate a target or something like that. I know it probably won't happen but it would be great to see that in a Assassin's creed game.

Chasebreaker
08-19-2010, 07:41 AM
Originally posted by SupremeCaptain:
Wouldn't work. It is meant for stealth, how will it work if the other player can look where you are?

It's true that the gameplay revolves around stealth and screenlooking would give others a big advantage, but then again, you only play splitscreen with your friends so if they indeed would screenlook, just agree amongst eachother not to.

And also for those of us who lack internet for our consoles, we wouldn't get a multiplayer game at all.

PlagueDoctor357
08-19-2010, 08:30 AM
A coop game would be cool but it's the tech involved.

On games like these you can't have the system rendering graphics in two different areas open world with peds and AI running around along with other players.

It's easy to get 4 players on Halo as it's graphics aren't that great and there isn't much to the game.

Gears of War can get split screen because although everyone thinks the graphics are amazing they really aren't they're just shiny and shaded dark like the rest of the game to look good.

I know that's not all thats involved but im sure that has something to do with it.

This is why GTA4 had no coop and the next installment (Not 5) won't either.

Or why on San Andreas they kept you tethered to the same screen so the PS2 could handle it.

austin128
08-19-2010, 09:16 AM
I want online and offline splitscreen for up to four players..

Chasebreaker
08-19-2010, 10:37 AM
My thoughts exactly!

Modern Warfare 2 did it, and they sold like what? 4,7 seven million copies the first day http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif? And personally i think Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood can sell even better due to the fact that it looks way more awesome

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Mellow-.
08-19-2010, 10:42 AM
Originally posted by SupremeCaptain:
Wouldn't work. It is meant for stealth, how will it work if the other player can look where you are? yeah but that cant tell exactly where you are supreme captain unless they are really addicted to it but your mostly right.

Mellow-.
08-19-2010, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by austin128:
I want online and offline splitscreen for up to four players.. AGREED with austin! =)

Mellow-.
08-19-2010, 10:48 AM
dude brillant your exactly right! WHOOT you read my mind bro! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Originally posted by Chasebreaker:
My thoughts exactly!

Modern Warfare 2 did it, and they sold like what? 4,7 seven million copies the first day http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif? And personally i think Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood can sell even better due to the fact that it looks way more awesome

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif

Rene_Led
08-19-2010, 10:55 AM
<span class="ev_code_RED">I could see coop for splitscreen but competitive just wouldn't work. I have Moder war2 and it ain't really fun playing locally when my friend or cousin can see where he at etc :P</span>

Chasebreaker
08-19-2010, 11:06 AM
Rene_led http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif,
Isn't it possible to make him stop cheating by telling him to? I mean if winning is more important to your cousin/friend than having a good time with you, he might have earned a can of whop-*** http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif?

thekyle0
08-19-2010, 12:12 PM
Originally posted by Chasebreaker:
Rene_led http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif,
Isn't it possible to make him stop cheating by telling him to? I mean if winning is more important to your cousin/friend than having a good time with you, he might have earned a can of whop-*** http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif? That never works. Whenever my friends and I play against each other in shooters on split-screen we all cheat despite telling each other not to. Eventually we just decided it was fair-game to look at each other's screen. It actually worked out pretty well; it it seemed to act as a handicap for those who were losing.(ME!) I don't see it working in Brotherhood competitive multiplayer though because while in a shooter it harms the game, with the exception of my experience, in a stealth-based game it completely breaks it.

For those still asking for split-screen co-op, I'd wait until AC3 to get your hopes up for that. The devs couldn't come up with a strong or plausible explanation to allow co-op in Brotherhood. If you want a source to confirm this then ask and I'll try to find one. (or you could look yourself)

austin128
08-20-2010, 08:25 AM
Originally posted by Infinite-Creed:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by austin128:
I want online and offline splitscreen for up to four players.. AGREED with austin! =) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
YAAAAAAY! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Chasebreaker
08-20-2010, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by austin128:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Infinite-Creed:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by austin128:
I want online and offline splitscreen for up to four players.. AGREED with austin! =) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
YAAAAAAY! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


It isnt a "Brotherhood" if I can't play with my bros in the hood http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif


And as a wise man once said "YAAAAAAY! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif"

Pyroshima
08-20-2010, 03:36 PM
Ac Brotherhood would lose nothing from spiltscreen , it would only be a gamebreaker or detract from the game if you couldnt avoid it. Splitscreen is relatively easy to put in the game but with no official statement with co-op I fear its to late. But for all who oppose it just remember that if you so chose you would never even have to scroll over the co-op option, and 1 more thing, co-op doesnt have to fit with the story acb is a game not a hbo miniseries.

There is no reason for sc not to be in the game, NONE, it is completely optional and therefore does not affect you at all.

austin128
08-21-2010, 09:54 AM
And if you're playing online splitscreen with your friends and they screen-cheat, they screen-cheat. You know you've done it for other games, and it'll only make a disadvantage for you.

Chasebreaker
08-22-2010, 01:25 PM
Originally posted by austin128:
And if you're playing online splitscreen with your friends and they screen-cheat, they screen-cheat. You know you've done it for other games, and it'll only make a disadvantage for you.

As long as i can play with my friends, I dont really care about winning http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

bokeef04
08-22-2010, 07:58 PM
Ubisoft want a reason for having splitscreen, obviously Abstergo can watch what is happening within the Animus, so maybe there is a tech watching 2 feeds on the one screen or will they hire a tech per animus

and honestly, as it stands it looks like Ubisoft are saying the Templars aren't going to teach their asassins to work together, it will be an every man for themselves deal(consider what made the Spartan's such fearsome warriors)

austin128
08-26-2010, 07:08 PM
Originally posted by Chasebreaker:
As long as i can play with my friends, I dont really care about winning http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Agree. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Chasebreaker
08-30-2010, 01:27 PM
I dont know if I speak for the lot of us but I for one thinks that the multplayer would be of little or no worth without the offline component.


I mean it shows a big difference in rating and sales considering games that has tried "secluded online multiplay only". Bioshock 2 is a good example for an awesome game with an awesome singleplayer experience, where the only option is 1 player online, and honestly how many of you guys are online playing that one?

Same thing for Battlefield Bad Company 2, it's succesful enough i guess but it will never top the sales of Call of Duty MW2.


With that said I as everyone else love Assassin's Creed and it's universe with all the single player goodness it brings, but the multiplayer part that seems the most interesting will be worthless to me and certianly to other casual players whose voices might not reach the forums in the same way more hardcore players do.


So in short Ubisoft has nothing to lose including offline splitscreen wich makes the game more appealing for the casual audience.

Murcuseo
08-30-2010, 01:53 PM
Originally posted by Chasebreaker:

So in short Ubisoft has nothing to lose including offline splitscreen wich makes the game more appealing for the casual audience.

Good job on bumping to similar threads with the same post... bravo. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

Chasebreaker
08-31-2010, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by Robson19822009:


Good job on bumping to similar threads with the same post... bravo. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

I do my best http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

dalby2010
08-31-2010, 12:50 PM
Look people youre all thinking competitve co op what about proper co op as in same team playing through the story say player one as ezio and player two as a trainee assassin screen watching would be pointless for same team members

austin128
08-31-2010, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by dalby2010:
Look people youre all thinking competitve co op what about proper co op as in same team playing through the story say player one as ezio and player two as a trainee assassin screen watching would be pointless for same team members
The devs have said they've thought about it but can't find a way to implement it with the story well.

Sithis23
09-01-2010, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by austin128:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dalby2010:
Look people youre all thinking competitve co op what about proper co op as in same team playing through the story say player one as ezio and player two as a trainee assassin screen watching would be pointless for same team members
The devs have said they've thought about it but can't find a way to implement it with the story well. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Link please

bokeef04
09-02-2010, 06:19 AM
i have an easy link for the Devs, the templars are working together, shock horror i know, there is no need for it to be SP relative, in my post above i gave a perfectly logical reason to having the splitscreen

FilipinoNinja67
09-02-2010, 06:25 AM
Originally posted by SupremeCaptain:
Wouldn't work. It is meant for stealth, how will it work if the other player can look where you are? E3 they had the screens right next to eachother. didnt see anyonre peek at someones screen. You just have to play it with someone that isnt a ******bag.

austin128
09-02-2010, 09:39 AM
Originally posted by Sithis23:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by austin128:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dalby2010:
Look people youre all thinking competitve co op what about proper co op as in same team playing through the story say player one as ezio and player two as a trainee assassin screen watching would be pointless for same team members
The devs have said they've thought about it but can't find a way to implement it with the story well. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Link please </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Read em and weep sucka! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif - http://videogamesdaily.com/new...t-doesnt-make-sense/ (http://videogamesdaily.com/news/201007/ubisoft-assassins-creed-co-op-is-super-interesting-but-doesnt-make-sense/)

mrmilkshakeman
09-02-2010, 10:59 AM
that's true

mrmilkshakeman
09-02-2010, 11:02 AM
If you can see where the person is then what would be the point of playing on split screen?

Chasebreaker
09-04-2010, 06:56 AM
Originally posted by mrmilkshakeman:
If you can see where the person is then what would be the point of playing on split screen?


Because then i could play the game together with my friends, which for me is the only reason for having a multiplayer component in a game http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

Rustfam09
09-05-2010, 03:12 PM
Split screen would be great http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif . The name does say Brotherhood like Chasebreaker said http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif . They could make great modes for it. Oh and i hope they make split screen for this. i want to play singleplayer and multiplayer but don't want multiplayer to be restricted to online play http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif . I want to play with my real friends not online buddies. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Chasebreaker
09-06-2010, 10:46 AM
Agreed Rustfam09!


But i just hope that the developers take this to heart, i mean, if we look at the poll, we got around 75% of the voters who wants splitscreen http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif.

Then again they might be to long in on the production to change it if they only have done online multiplaying, but letīs hope not http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Deathgrim666
09-06-2010, 11:43 AM
I rather have the game in november than have to wait longer just to play with split screen but thats me.

Chasebreaker
09-06-2010, 01:14 PM
Originally posted by deathgrim666:
I rather have the game in november than have to wait longer just to play with split screen but thats me.


The multiplayer part might aswell be excluded from the game without splitscreen, i bought bioshock 2 and battlefield bad company 2 but alas i havent to date, touched the multiplayer part http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

It seems rather pointless when i can't play it with my bros,

In contrast, I havent touched the singleplayer part of Call of duty 6 Mw2, but I have played the 4-player splitscreen for hours and hours http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

But that's just me http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

D00CH
09-06-2010, 02:50 PM
No, I hate splitscreen.

bokeef04
09-06-2010, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by D00CH:
No, I hate splitscreen.

but is that enough reason for it not to be included in a game? why should i be unable to play it with my friends? why is it that we are moving further and further away from actually having face to face conversations and spending time with actual friends?

SBRedFlag
09-06-2010, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by bokeef04:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by D00CH:
No, I hate splitscreen.

but is that enough reason for it not to be included in a game? why should i be unable to play it with my friends? why is it that we are moving further and further away from actually having face to face conversations and spending time with actual friends? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Bokeef, thing of the irony in your words. You talk about drifting away from "face to face conversations", while at the same time, you're on an online forum where you have never seen a single user's face.

But that's besides the point. Obviously, Ubi is not going to go "Oh, Dooch hates splitscreen, therefore we will not include it", they will say:


"Here are the pros and cons of splitscreen:
Pros:
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>People like playing with friends
[/list]

Cons:
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>There is no plausible way to justify multiple people in the Animus.
<LI>It takes twice the amount of processing to render two scenes at the same time rather than one.
<LI>There's no point to the game if player's look at each others' screens, which they will if given the opportunity.
[/list]
Wow, that looks like several good reasons not to include split-screen. Therefore we will not include split-screen for the sake of a few internet whiners

So, in short, it has nothing to do with whether you like playing with friends or not, it has to do with game quality.

bokeef04
09-07-2010, 12:17 AM
Originally posted by sbredflag:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by bokeef04:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by D00CH:
No, I hate splitscreen.

but is that enough reason for it not to be included in a game? why should i be unable to play it with my friends? why is it that we are moving further and further away from actually having face to face conversations and spending time with actual friends? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Bokeef, thing of the irony in your words. You talk about drifting away from "face to face conversations", while at the same time, you're on an online forum where you have never seen a single user's face.<span class="ev_code_RED">and yet you have nearly double the amount of posts i do and registered about 20months after i did? does that tell you something</span>

But that's besides the point. Obviously, Ubi is not going to go "Oh, Dooch hates splitscreen, therefore we will not include it", they will say:


"Here are the pros and cons of splitscreen:
Pros:
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>People like playing with friends
[/list]

Cons:
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>There is no plausible way to justify multiple people in the Animus. <span class="ev_code_RED">did no-one read any of my earlier posts, and it's plausible for Abstergo employee's to have had ancestors running around killing each other in the middle of the streets gladiator style? i understand it doesn't fit with the SP, but that's not what i'm asking, i'm just asking for a splitscreen mode, be it competitive MP or CO-OP MP</span>
<LI>It takes twice the amount of processing to render two scenes at the same time rather than one.<span class="ev_code_RED">a true point, but not the issue at hand is it</span>
<LI>There's no point to the game if player's look at each others' screens, which they will if given the opportunity.<span class="ev_code_RED">people hack MP games and cheat, does that mean we shouldn't play them? i enjoy playing with a friend on a friday night, i can't do that if they have only online MP</span>
[/list]
Wow, that looks like several good reasons not to include split-screen. Therefore we will not include split-screen for the sake of a few internet whiners

So, in short, it has nothing to do with whether you like playing with friends or not, it has to do with game quality. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

i have no problem with them leaving splitscreen out for technical reasons, but they have stated it was due to not having a reason, which dozen equally logical ones can be found, unless i'm confused and didn't realise templars held gladiator matches in the middle of the street and never work together to achieve anything(which makes it a miracle they lasted this long)

Akasha_Ishtar
09-07-2010, 12:33 AM
What I miss is no multi player offline no more, they were good old days when you could sit down with a mate and have some fun now everything is online and half of the time not all of your friends have their systems online or even have the games you do so their goes been able to play them games with them, it bites.

Chasebreaker
09-07-2010, 12:57 PM
Originally posted by sbredflag:

Wow, that looks like several good reasons not to include split-screen. Therefore we will not include split-screen for the sake of a few internet whiners



Please look at the poll above, it does look quite alot like there's only a bunch of internet whiners who doesnt want it included.

austin128
09-08-2010, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by sbredflag:
<LI>There is no plausible way to justify multiple people in the Animus.

The regular multiplayer is just a simulation, why isn't this the same thing? In online a bunch of Templars are attached to one simulation, in splitscreen up to 4 are. I don't see the problem.

Chasebreaker
09-09-2010, 11:47 AM
Originally posted by bokeef04:



Cons:
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>

<LI>There's no point to the game if player's look at each others' screens, which they will if given the opportunity.
[/list]




Well thatīs a rather cynical look on humanity in large, to asume that every individual will cheat given the chance.

I dont know what is at stake when you play with your buddies, but spoiling it by cheating, just to taste the fabulous sweetness that is victory in a videogame, just doesnt seem worth it in my eyes :/

bokeef04
09-09-2010, 06:51 PM
Originally posted by Chasebreaker:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by bokeef04:



Cons:
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>

<LI>There's no point to the game if player's look at each others' screens, which they will if given the opportunity.
[/list]




Well thatīs a rather cynical look on humanity in large, to asume that every individual will cheat given the chance.

I dont know what is at stake when you play with your buddies, but spoiling it by cheating, just to taste the fabulous sweetness that is victory in a videogame, just doesnt seem worth it in my eyes :/ </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

also i find it disturbing that people only think of versing other people, never working with them, if they had a co-op MP mode then nothing would be gained from screen looking, except for where you partner actually is, and 4 player splitscreen might be too much, i'd settle for just 2 player spitscreen

dmutz77
09-09-2010, 07:23 PM
well if they cant do it for this one, lets just hope they do it later. i think it would work for team game modes

SBRedFlag
09-09-2010, 07:29 PM
Originally posted by bokeef04:
and yet you have nearly double the amount of posts i do and registered about 20months after i did? does that tell you something


But I'm not the one spouting off garbage about "drifting away from actual conversation", am I? I'm all for internet forums, but judging by your words, you are not, yet still participate in one. That's all I'm trying to say.



There is no plausible way to justify multiple people in the Animus. <span class="ev_code_RED">did no-one read any of my earlier posts, and it's plausible for Abstergo employee's to have had ancestors running around killing each other in the middle of the streets gladiator style? i understand it doesn't fit with the SP, but that's not what i'm asking, i'm just asking for a splitscreen mode, be it competitive MP or CO-OP MP </span>
I'm simply the messenger of this little fact of information, the devs have explicitly stated that there is no plausible justification for it, so argue with them, not me.


It takes twice the amount of processing to render two scenes at the same time rather than one.<span class="ev_code_RED">a true point, but not the issue at hand is it</span>
How is it not the issue at hand? The issue at hand is the inclusion of splitscreen, and that point is a major obstacle in doing so. Just because you don't like it doesn't render it irrelevant.


There's no point to the game if player's look at each others' screens, which they will if given the opportunity. <span class="ev_code_RED">people hack MP games and cheat, does that mean we shouldn't play them? i enjoy playing with a friend on a friday night, i can't do that if they have only online MP</span>
You can ban hackers and patch exploits. You can't ban your friend if they screen-look. Ok, let's put it this way, since you brought up hackers.
If you play a multiplayer game, how much do you enjoy it if everyone is hacking the game (or one person is hacking, even), versus if everyone is playing cleanly and fairly? Honestly, the obvious answer is it's more fun when it's played fairly. The same would go for offline multiplayer. Believe me, you'll tire quickly that Friday night.


Well thatīs a rather cynical look on humanity in large, to asume that every individual will cheat given the chance.

I dont know what is at stake when you play with your buddies, but spoiling it by cheating, just to taste the fabulous sweetness that is victory in a videogame, just doesnt seem worth it in my eyes :/

In an ideal world, this would be the logic flowing through everyone's brains while playing a videogame. Unfortunately,we don't live in an ideal world. You cannot deny that when playing splitscreen with friends, your eyes don't occasionally wander to the other side of the screen, or if yours don't, then your friends' eyes do.

I don't mean to break anyone's hearts or anything, I'm just being logical.

EzioAssassin51
09-10-2010, 01:53 AM
Hey!

I just thought of something. At first i was like 'Naa, no Splitscreen' but i just realized something.

Ubi have released a new MP mode that allows two people to team up (looks at Shade's Sticky Thread), so that is pretty much Co-op.

So now, there kind of is a Co-Op mode, but online, so why can't we have it offline. Now the only real problem with this is the screen rendering (As sbred said)

austin128
09-10-2010, 09:20 AM
Is screen-looking really that big a deal?

SBRedFlag
09-10-2010, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by EzioAssassin51:
Hey!

I just thought of something. At first i was like 'Naa, no Splitscreen' but i just realized something.

Ubi have released a new MP mode that allows two people to team up (looks at Shade's Sticky Thread), so that is pretty much Co-op.

So now, there kind of is a Co-Op mode, but online, so why can't we have it offline. Now the only real problem with this is the screen rendering (As sbred said)

I've never argued that coop isn't possible online, the challenges are completely different with offline multiplayer.
And anyway, that's just competitive team gameplay, not 2 players working together to complete a mission. Which means it's not cooperative.


Is screen-looking really that big a deal?

Yes! It breaks the whole premise of the game. As soon as you look at the screen once, the game is ruined for the next 5 minutes. Where's the fun in that, exactly? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif

Chasebreaker
09-10-2010, 06:17 PM
Originally posted by sbredflag:


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Is screen-looking really that big a deal?

Yes! It breaks the whole premise of the game. As soon as you look at the screen once, the game is ruined for the next 5 minutes. Where's the fun in that, exactly? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



That I get to play with my real, offline friends that do not care about winning as much as having fun so, naturally, they don't screen look, unless of course they want to win so badly that they cheat their own friends to achieve victory.

Pecuilar enough it has to date not happened that they have forsaken the object of having fun, just to be superior to their peers in an virtual world.

EzioAssassin51
09-10-2010, 07:11 PM
Originally posted by sbredflag:
I've never argued that coop isn't possible online, the challenges are completely different with offline multiplayer.
And anyway, that's just competitive team gameplay, not 2 players working together to complete a mission. Which means it's not cooperative.

Oh OK http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Just so you know, i wasn't arguing with you or anything, i was just saying what i thought http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

I wasn't replying to yur post

SBRedFlag
09-10-2010, 08:30 PM
Originally posted by Chasebreaker:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sbredflag:


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Is screen-looking really that big a deal?

Yes! It breaks the whole premise of the game. As soon as you look at the screen once, the game is ruined for the next 5 minutes. Where's the fun in that, exactly? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



That I get to play with my real, offline friends that do not care about winning as much as having fun so, naturally, they don't screen look, unless of course they want to win so badly that they cheat their own friends to achieve victory.

Pecuilar enough it has to date not happened that they have forsaken the object of having fun, just to be superior to their peers in an virtual world. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What you're apparently not understanding is that it doesn't even have to be intentional. A quick glance at the opponent's screen is enough to ruin the gameplay. It doesn't matter so much in FPS games so you probably don't notice when you do look at your opponent's screen, or vice versa. It's different with a game like AC.

austin128
09-11-2010, 12:02 AM
That's part of the fun of it for me.
"You screen-looker!"
"*Laughs*"
"*Laughs*"

Chasebreaker
09-12-2010, 08:54 AM
Originally posted by sbredflag:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chasebreaker:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sbredflag:


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Is screen-looking really that big a deal?

Yes! It breaks the whole premise of the game. As soon as you look at the screen once, the game is ruined for the next 5 minutes. Where's the fun in that, exactly? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



That I get to play with my real, offline friends that do not care about winning as much as having fun so, naturally, they don't screen look, unless of course they want to win so badly that they cheat their own friends to achieve victory.

Pecuilar enough it has to date not happened that they have forsaken the object of having fun, just to be superior to their peers in an virtual world. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What you're apparently not understanding is that it doesn't even have to be intentional. A quick glance at the opponent's screen is enough to ruin the gameplay. It doesn't matter so much in FPS games so you probably don't notice when you do look at your opponent's screen, or vice versa. It's different with a game like AC. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Well I have played SCC vs multiplaying, Wich is revolving around multiplayer verus stealth.

I didnt have a problem focusing on my screen at all, I just didnt look at it.
Itīs not impossible not to screen peek, but if you have the uncontrollable urge to do it, I feel sorry for you mate.

SBRedFlag
09-12-2010, 09:33 AM
Originally posted by Chasebreaker:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sbredflag:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chasebreaker:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sbredflag:


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Is screen-looking really that big a deal?

Yes! It breaks the whole premise of the game. As soon as you look at the screen once, the game is ruined for the next 5 minutes. Where's the fun in that, exactly? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



That I get to play with my real, offline friends that do not care about winning as much as having fun so, naturally, they don't screen look, unless of course they want to win so badly that they cheat their own friends to achieve victory.

Pecuilar enough it has to date not happened that they have forsaken the object of having fun, just to be superior to their peers in an virtual world. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What you're apparently not understanding is that it doesn't even have to be intentional. A quick glance at the opponent's screen is enough to ruin the gameplay. It doesn't matter so much in FPS games so you probably don't notice when you do look at your opponent's screen, or vice versa. It's different with a game like AC. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Well I have played SCC vs multiplaying, Wich is revolving around multiplayer verus stealth.

I didnt have a problem focusing on my screen at all, I just didnt look at it.
Itīs not impossible not to screen peek, but if you have the uncontrollable urge to do it, I feel sorry for you mate. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What's SCC?

Anyway, I didn't say anything suggesting I had an uncontrollable urge to screen peek, so I'm not sure what you're saying there... All I said is that the slightest glance at the other half of the screen will break the game... It's too easy to do that.

But I'm not gonna argue with you anymore because you keep saying the same thing, and you aren't really going to listen, you only want me to agree with something that makes no sense, from a gameplay and logical point of view. So adieu.

Chasebreaker
09-13-2010, 12:34 PM
Originally posted by sbredflag:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chasebreaker:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sbredflag:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chasebreaker:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sbredflag:


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Is screen-looking really that big a deal?

Yes! It breaks the whole premise of the game. As soon as you look at the screen once, the game is ruined for the next 5 minutes. Where's the fun in that, exactly? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



That I get to play with my real, offline friends that do not care about winning as much as having fun so, naturally, they don't screen look, unless of course they want to win so badly that they cheat their own friends to achieve victory.

Pecuilar enough it has to date not happened that they have forsaken the object of having fun, just to be superior to their peers in an virtual world. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What you're apparently not understanding is that it doesn't even have to be intentional. A quick glance at the opponent's screen is enough to ruin the gameplay. It doesn't matter so much in FPS games so you probably don't notice when you do look at your opponent's screen, or vice versa. It's different with a game like AC. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Well I have played SCC vs multiplaying, Wich is revolving around multiplayer verus stealth.

I didnt have a problem focusing on my screen at all, I just didnt look at it.
Itīs not impossible not to screen peek, but if you have the uncontrollable urge to do it, I feel sorry for you mate. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What's SCC?

Anyway, I didn't say anything suggesting I had an uncontrollable urge to screen peek, so I'm not sure what you're saying there... All I said is that the slightest glance at the other half of the screen will break the game... It's too easy to do that.

But I'm not gonna argue with you anymore because you keep saying the same thing, and you aren't really going to listen, you only want me to agree with something that makes no sense, from a gameplay and logical point of view. So adieu. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Scc is SplinterCell conviction, this being a Ubisoft forum i thought you knew.

And second, i keep replying the same answer since you and many others are adressing the same issue over and over.
I'm not going to change my answer until you stop targeting the same issue I have answered time and time again.
I too thinks itīs rather boring hearing "People will screenlook and that will ruin my chance of winning" all the time, although there are some variations of it but so are my answers aswell.

Sithis23
09-20-2010, 07:48 AM
Guys! Chill!!
If you don't want split screen then no one is making you use it!!!
If you want split screen (like me), then Ubisoft will probably put it in with like the alliance game mode where you work in teams of 2.

SBRedFlag
09-20-2010, 09:57 AM
*facepalm*

RandomRansom
09-22-2010, 02:43 AM
I know this has probably already been brought up, but I want to throw my hat into the ring as well.

I think there should be at least the option of online AND offline split screen for co-op modes. This would allow you to see what your team mates are doing and where they are. For versus? Yeah... I really don't think there would be a good reason to dispute the fact that people could cheat to see where you are. It's an unfortunate truth.

But co-op would benefit from split screens. Maybe even just mini-screens on screen of your team mates' views (though that may not work for people using non-wide-screen TVs). Speaking over mics only gives you so much... what was it? A picture is worth a thousand words?

borga708
11-12-2010, 07:21 PM
acb would be alot better if it had split screen. Mabey acb could have online and offline.

Prototype.XIII
11-15-2010, 07:18 AM
screen-watching in a game where you are already given a radar telling where your mark is located is kind of worthless... I don't see how it could be game breaking if your friends were to happen to look. If u catch them doing it you hit them or knock the controller out their hand. They will learn not to eventually. I say splitscreen yes. They don't need to link it in. does halo explain why there is 12 master chiefs running around killing each other no. Why would ACB need to explain it. Just simply make it happen, we don't care about the details

realgangsta213
11-15-2010, 07:38 AM
Screen watching is not as important in modern warfare 2 but in games like acb it would completely ruin the game. Your location wouldn't be a secret To where your predator is. System link or online is the only way.

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Piflik
11-15-2010, 07:58 AM
How can you play the game without looking at the screen...even if you are focusing on your half alone, there is this thing called peripheral vision...you cannot not look at the other half...

Rainie
11-15-2010, 08:00 AM
My biggest gripe with splitscreen isn't the issue of screen peeking or even the graphics rendering, it's the fact that your field of vision is split in half. When I played in the beta I used my peripheral vision a lot to track down my target and watch out for my pursuers at the same time. To have only half or less of the screen available to me is a big downfall and if they ever implemented it I would never use it. I can understand why people want splitscreen but I personally don't think it works for this game. Sure I'd like to play with my friends offline but I don't want to hunting down AI bots during my match (since a match requires 6 players)

Tuck2103
11-15-2010, 08:18 AM
It would be hard to avoid screenlooking, but it should be there for those who want to play together.

v0ilet
04-01-2011, 10:02 AM
I will be so happy if lan will release xD!!