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HFC_Dolphin
10-22-2005, 03:30 AM
Hello all http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I wanna ask your opinion about the differences of X52 vs X45 throttles.
I do own the X45 (though I don't use it anymore) and I wanna see if it worths buying the X52 one.
At this moment I'm using CH pro throttle, but due to lack of rotarries I'm thinking on going back.

All detailed analysis will be highly appreciated http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

S!

P.S. No question about the joystick. I stick to CH forever http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

Udidtoo
10-22-2005, 03:42 AM
Originally posted by HFC_Dolphin:
Hello all http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I wanna ask your opinion about the differences of X52 vs X45 throttles.
I do own the X45 (though I don't use it anymore) and I wanna see if it worths buying the X52 one.
At this moment I'm using CH pro throttle, but due to lack of rotarries I'm thinking on going back.

All detailed analysis will be highly appreciated http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

S!

P.S. No question about the joystick. I stick to CH forever http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

One of the 3 way selection switches on the 45 has been replaced with a slider. I like it for prop pitch but that's me. Each rotary has a button in the middle, sometimes more isn't less.

Throttle and the stick are much smoother than on my 45 and those slots on the bottom of both are for....you guessed it suction cups.Ones that if I need to remove them from my desk require I slide them to the edge Which unlike my 45 came in the 52's box. With the 3 new 2 way switches on the stick I think you get 20 some more commands to map than the 45. its 2:25 am so my math may be off.

Oh yes,that stiff plastic stick handle that was set in another plastic in the base that needed constant lube is metal on the 52 and if you don't have tracIr the mini-stick on the throttle is already mouse look emulation as is.

HFC_Dolphin
10-22-2005, 05:33 AM
Thanks Udidtoo http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Lav69
10-22-2005, 07:34 AM
The slider on the X52 throttle is killer. I use it for flaps. Its perfect for adding just a little flap here or there. Especially in Spits. Just be sure and put some dead zone at the ends of the slider axis or flaps adjustment will always be on. The software and setup for the X52 is much better as well. I have both the X45 and X52 and I feel the X52 throttle and stick are much better.

Udidtoo
10-22-2005, 01:38 PM
I forgot to mention that the stick grip is adjustable. I barely fit in the X45 but the 52 can be made rather large or moved up to fit a smaller women's hand or younger teen. It quite comfortable as well.

hobnail
10-22-2005, 04:49 PM
He's not using the stick Udidtoo but still worth noting.

Also the X52 has builtin Stopwatch (tm) feature! I also like having the mouse-wheel/button on the X52 throttle. I never used the rudder on the X45 much so it was no loss.

Tully__
10-22-2005, 05:57 PM
X-45 Throttle

1x Throttle axis
2x Rotary control
1x Rudder rocker
1x 4 or 8 way hat
1x Mouse hat (switches, 4 or 8 way)
1x Mouse fire
1x Mode switch (3 position)
1x Aux Switch (3 position)
1x Fire button

Stick

2x axis (pitch / roll)
2x 4 or 8 way hat switch
1x trigger
1x launch (under safety guard)
3x fire buttons
1x pinkie shift

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X-52 Throttle

1x Throttle axis
2x Rotaries
1x Auxilary slider
1x Mouse wheel / mouse button 3
1x 4 or 8 way hat switch
1x Mouse hat (2x axis)
1x Mouse fire
3x Fire buttons
3x Function buttons

Stick

3x Axis (Pitch, Roll, Twist rudder)
2x 4 or 8 way hats
1x Trigger, two stage
1x Launch (under safety guard)
1x Mode switch (3 position)
3x Fire buttons
1x Pinkie shift
3x Toggle switch (2 positions each)

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Both are highly programmable. The 52 gives more options with the native Saitek drivers / profiler as it has more buttons, though the swap to axes for the mouse hat means you can't use it as an 8 way hat.

The 45 has the option of using the 3rd party Dhauzimmer drivers. They're much more fiddly to set up & programme but allow rather a lot more flexibility due to the support of a couple of seemingly minor extra functions. The least obvious and most flexible is user defined mode switching, so any button on the stick or throttle can be used as a shift or mode swap. With at least one (possibly all) of the "4th" party profiling utilities you can combine mode and commands on the same button or change the mode swap definition depending on what mode you're currently in. Another nice feature is changing banded controls depending on direction of axis movement.

I like the switches on the 52 throttle more than the 45, but to get the most out of the 52 throttle you'd have to have the stick within reach to use the mode switch. If you have enough desk space this would be a good thing, as the toggle switches on the stick could come in real handy. They have a nice easy to use layout for assigning bombsight controls for a start, so if you're a level bombing fan I'd give the 52 serious thought as an adjunct to your CH stick.