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DIRTY-MAC
08-16-2006, 02:40 PM
"THE WINTER WAR"
Plot Synopsis: Russia attacked Finland in late November 1939. This film tells the story of a Finnish platoon of reservists from the municipality of Kauhava in the province of Pohjanmaa/Osttrobottnia who leave their homes and go to war. The film focuses on the farmer brothers Martti and Paavo Hakala.
SEE IT!

"STALINGRAD"

PLATOON

anyone know any other good non flagwawing cheesy WWII / "any War" movies?

PBNA-Boosher
08-16-2006, 02:43 PM
DER UNTERGANG (IE- Downfall): The story of the last few days of the Reich in the fuhrerbunker, as told by Traudl Junge.

DIRTY-MAC
08-16-2006, 02:50 PM
haven´t seen that one yet, have to rent it

HuninMunin
08-16-2006, 02:53 PM
Das Boot, of course.

F6_Ace
08-16-2006, 02:59 PM
Das Boot and Downfall are obvious choices. Not seen Stalingrad. "All quiet on the wotsit front" is supposed to be good, also.

Dark blue world wasn't exactly flag waving but I believe that Wikipedia has an entry that says that the dialogue was written in 3 mins by a gurgling kid accidentally swiping a crayon around on a piece of paper. (And if it doesn't, I'll go and amend it)

"Hell in the pacific" (remade as "Enemy Mine")is an interesting [anti] war film, too.

I think it's fair to say that if you avoid 99% of Hollywood output and/or most things that came out of Britain in the 50s and 60s then you'll be ok.

zugfuhrer
08-16-2006, 03:03 PM
Unknow soldier, based on the book with the same name, written by Vaino Linna. The old black/white is better, not so hollywoodish.

Das Boot, directors cut. No heroes only normally people. On bad thing is the scene where the Ubootkapitan removes the picture of Hitler at the officers mess on the boat. He would have been courtmarshalled for that in real life.

The battle of britain from 1966? Nice scenes, no heroes. Aircrafts are not spit II and 109E all the time, but the best warmovie about airforce so far.
The Naked and The Dead based on Norman Mailers book is written by a guy who was there.


About the Platoon. They who was there said "It was not that bad, it was worse"
The only ones who speak highly about war, are those who havnt been there.

Beeing in war, coming under fire is an experience yes, but an experience that doesnt make you a more complete human, its like beeing raped.
Hasnt Hollywood done any good war movies? After all they have made the most of them.

Chuck_Older
08-16-2006, 04:29 PM
Errr...wasn't Platoon set in Viet Nam? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

DIRTY-MAC
08-16-2006, 05:15 PM
Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
Errr...wasn't Platoon set in Viet Nam? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blush.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif
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Rjel
08-16-2006, 05:54 PM
How about "The Story of G.I. Joe", a film about Ernie Pyle. Maybe "A Walk in the Sun". How about "Attack"? How about "The Execution of Pvt. Slovik"? All character studies and all made in Hollywood. The constant tirade against the movie industry here gets tiresome.

Professor_1942
08-16-2006, 07:36 PM
My personal favourite:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091251/

JV44Rall
08-16-2006, 09:49 PM
A Midnight Clear - an indie film with a great cast. In the opening scene, Gary Sunise goes crazy, jumps out of his foxhole, tears off his uniform and runs around screaming gibberish. The main character, played by Ethan Hawke, delivers voice overs about incompetent officers that are classics:

"Our regimental commander is Major Griffin. Griffin was a mortician in civilian life. His main passion now seems to be generating business for his army counterparts. It€s thanks to Griffin and his military mortuary skills that I€ve made my recent headlong leap to three stripes. We lost half our squad attempting one of his map-inspired, ill-conceived recon patrols. When I say lost, I mean killed. Nobody in the army ever admits that someone on our side is killed. They€re either lost, like Christopher Robin; hit, as in a batter hit by a pitched ball; or they get it, like in hide-and-go-seek. Or maybe they get it, as with an ambiguous joke."

"I€m not exactly sure what country we€re in. It could be Belgium, Luxembourg, France or Germany. I don€t know what day it is. I don€t have a watch so I don€t know what time it is. I€m not even sure of my name. The next thing you know, they€ll be making me a general."

wiekiewiekie
08-16-2006, 11:51 PM
Korean War: Taegukgi (Brotherhood), amazing

Lawrence of Arabia, what can I say, after so many years, the almost 4 hour long epic is still fantastic.

Waldo.Pepper
08-17-2006, 12:29 AM
On topic

Cross of Iron.

And slightly off topic - the one that popped into my head was

The Bedford Incident.

Ob.Emann
08-17-2006, 02:26 AM
"Saints and Soldiers" is good, despite the religious overtones. Very low key and gritty.

ploughman
08-17-2006, 02:44 AM
Anyone seen "Enlightened by Fire" yet? It's an Argentine film about the Falklands war and is supposed to have some gritty combat sequences amongst dealing with the fall out of the war on Argentine vets but I'd like to know if it's any good.

russ.nl
08-17-2006, 02:58 AM
Ghandi, and the Band of Brother series.

F19_Olli72
08-17-2006, 03:09 AM
Rukaj¤rven tie/Ambush, though not in the same class as Winterwar or Unknown Soldier it was quite good imo.

And i think"Fail Safe" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0235376/) was surprisingly good (broadcasted live!).

Fighterduck
08-17-2006, 03:10 AM
Originally posted by PBNA-Boosher:
DER UNTERGANG (IE- Downfall): The story of the last few days of the Reich in the fuhrerbunker, as told by Traudl Junge.

"awesome" movie

Xiolablu3
08-17-2006, 03:37 AM
Apocalypse Now is a good one, but I am sure you have all seen it.

I liked The Thin Red line, thats not flag waving at all, in fact its the oppostite, anti-war.

'You are OK, you've GOT your war, you are only 21,...but this, this is my FIRST war'

'Corperal looks at him in astonishment'

Its almost like 'I love the smell of napalm in the morning' without the humour.

nte70
08-17-2006, 05:38 AM
bridge over the river kwai

Kuna_
08-18-2006, 03:40 AM
Winter WAr, Das Boot and Saving Private Ryan the top three war movies for me.

In Das Boot is is kinda weird to see German U-Boat crew singing "...it's a long way to tipperaryyy..." http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

panther3485
08-18-2006, 03:49 AM
Originally posted by Kuna_:
Winter WAr, Das Boot and Saving Private Ryan the top three war movies for me.

In Das Boot is is kinda weird to see German U-Boat crew singing "...it's a long way to tipperaryyy..." http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Yeah, but one of them is a pretty strong 'flag waver', so kinda not qualified here? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

panther3485
08-18-2006, 03:52 AM
"The constant tirade against the movie industry here gets tiresome."

The 'tirade', I believe, is mostly against the products of Hollywood, which may be the biggest player of the movie industry but is far from being the whole industry.

han freak solo
08-18-2006, 07:21 AM
Originally posted by HH_Emann:
"Saints and Soldiers" is good, despite the religious overtones. Very low key and gritty.

+1

I just saw it this past weekend. I was surprised how much I liked it.

It did have a flag waving on a jeep, so maybe it doesn't apply here either? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

carguy_
08-18-2006, 07:35 AM
Originally posted by Xiolablu3:

'You are OK, you've GOT your war, you are only 21,...but this, this is my FIRST war'



Nick Nolte rox.

AVGWarhawk
08-18-2006, 11:27 AM
Run Silent/Run Deep
The Enemy Below
Band of Brothers (probably the best I have seen)

Grue_
08-18-2006, 12:19 PM
Don't forget some B&W british classics

Dambusters
Ice Cold in Alex
The Cruel Sea

and

Bridge too Far

shotdownski
08-18-2006, 12:31 PM
"Casualties of War" - When I first saw this I thought the story highly improbable, but recent events in Iraq indicate that it's probably pretty accurate. Maybe Michael J Fox is miscast in this, but the Sean Penn character is pretty damn real (I knew several mean SOBs just like him during my military career).

WskyStr8
08-19-2006, 12:45 AM
There's been more A couple of favourite would be

A Bridge Too Far
Enemy At The Gates
The Eagle Has Landed
The Longest Day (a bit of flag waving but a damn good film non the less)

I thought Apocalypse Now was a load of rubbish from go to whoa.

FI-Skipper
08-19-2006, 07:58 AM
The Dam Busters
A Bridge to Far
Battle of Britain