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santini812
06-25-2005, 11:00 PM
First let me provide a little background on myself, I spent 20 years in the U.S. Army, most of that time as an Ait Traffic Contoller and Ground School Instructor. Thanks to many a bored pilot who wanted priority at re-fueling I was able to fly oh-58's, uh-1's and uh'60's and once I was able to fly a ch-47..still the highlite of my illegal piloting career. So I have limited experience with real world flight. I've gained a commerical jet license in MS FS 2004 and all the older sims, I've gained an ace rating in MS CFS, CFSII, and CFS III, but they mean nothing. ILS-2 whips my *** like a rented mule,and that is a good thing!
I have more troubles taking off with a combat loaded Me-109 than I have fighting the entire Japanese Air Force in CFS II.
Part of the problem is I may have ADD...just when I've spent a few hours mastering my skills in a BF_109....someone releases Prince of Persia II, or God Of War, or the latest version of Splinter Cell and when I come back to ILS-2 I'm a noob all over again....While I love ubisoft and most of their games...jesus give me a break. There is only so many hours in a day and the wife will only allow so much gameplay without looking for emotional and sexual relief from a neighbor. I don't worry about the kids , they are mostly grown and I've screwed them up as much as I can, ignoring them in favor of flying a mission over the Kursk battlefield won't add to the damage. I hope with the new addition of Pacific Fighters I will be able to focus more, and I've finished Doom 3 and Halo 2 so maybe I'll actually be able to fly a campaign and survive. Wish me luck.

rnzoli
06-26-2005, 12:25 AM
Wow, that was an honest confession! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

The good good thing with IL2 is that there is always something else to learn, something next to try and perfect. That's part of the entertainment - a very time- and resource-consuming entertainment.

However, if you play with a good crowd online, even being a n00b is fun. Talking from experience http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

LEXX_Luthor
06-26-2005, 01:41 AM
um....okay. When I started out with teh FB, I could not fight, and honestly was not very interested in doing so, so I spent most time doing neat things at very low altitude (say, 50 meters) and landing/takeoffs off airfield at bizzare places like tops of Kuban mountains (flying P11C). By the time I started making combat missions, I found that I had mastered my flying and could fight without thinking about how to fly the plane. Basically, without being in combat, I built up my flying "hours" before hand, instead of jumping into The Dogfight(tm) right out of the box -- I just now thought that is just the way WW2 pilots trained for (say) anything from 20 to 200 hours before going into combat (for the nations that could afford 200 hours training).

Wellcome to Forgotten Board

Lucius_Esox
06-26-2005, 04:02 AM
santini812 wrote


First let me provide a little background on myself, I spent 20 years in the U.S. Army, most of that time as an Ait Traffic Contoller and Ground School Instructor. Thanks to many a bored pilot who wanted priority at re-fueling I was able to fly oh-58's, uh-1's and uh'60's and once I was able to fly a ch-47..still the highlite of my illegal piloting career. So I have limited experience with real world flight. I've gained a commerical jet license in MS FS 2004 and all the older sims, I've gained an ace rating in MS CFS, CFSII, and CFS III, but they mean nothing. ILS-2 whips my *** like a rented mule,and that is a good thing!
I have more troubles taking off with a combat loaded Me-109 than I have fighting the entire Japanese Air Force in CFS II.
Part of the problem is I may have ADD...just when I've spent a few hours mastering my skills in a BF_109....someone releases Prince of Persia II, or God Of War, or the latest version of Splinter Cell and when I come back to ILS-2 I'm a noob all over again....While I love ubisoft and most of their games...jesus give me a break. There is only so many hours in a day and the wife will only allow so much gameplay without looking for emotional and sexual relief from a neighbor. I don't worry about the kids , they are mostly grown and I've screwed them up as much as I can, ignoring them in favor of flying a mission over the Kursk battlefield won't add to the damage. I hope with the new addition of Pacific Fighters I will be able to focus more, and I've finished Doom 3 and Halo 2 so maybe I'll actually be able to fly a campaign and survive. Wish me luck.

Top man, a medal for your honsty lol.

The best (and worse really) piece of advice I was given was by a "recognised" online Ace once.

After getting my ar*e handed to me for the umpteenth time that day I asked "how do you do it" his answer, short and sweet, "stick time"

Sadly, it is true I think. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

blakduk
06-26-2005, 06:35 PM
santini812- I've had the same problems as you and i think part of the problem is the FM's of the other sims. They arent as sophisticated and are far more forgiving- this encourages bad habits that will kill you in Il2.
I too have had to come to terms with being a noob after defeating legions of aircraft in other sims. All i want is the original Spitfire V back from the AEP- it was uber to the point of being ridiculous. I could kill anything in that- now that i've patched up to 2.04 i have to learn to fly a more realistic plane. I'm such a noob AGAIN!

Pirschjaeger
06-27-2005, 06:00 AM
I haven't flown since October of last year. I've collected the most important parts for my next pc but won't have it operational until the end of July. Noobs, you're not alone. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Fritz

TheCrux
06-27-2005, 11:24 AM
What a great post! This sim is so good, so real it is unforgiving of any proficiency lapses. It's also so true that there are barely enough hours in a day to master every aspect, though I learn something new nearly every time, making me an honorary "eternal noob".

What makes me feel good though is seeing other's reaction to the sim. I'll have a neighbor, some of my buddies, girlfriend, relative over my house and when seeing my PC and sim gear they invariably ask to see it in action...watch me fly...or fly themselves....

The result is always the same, and it's funny to hear:

Exitedly chastising egging me on and chastising me for not spraying the sky with lead everytime an enemy plane is on the screen, no matter how far away, and for not following their every move in a WW1 style dogfight.

After trying to explain the finer points of gunnery and energy management, I offer to let them fly. They can't even get off the ground without balling up an airplane and "killing themselves", so I'll just set them up on a QMB against slow bombers, only to watch them bounce all over the sky, overcontrolling, as they curse their inibility to approach a target. The reaction is always the same: "Man, This is HARD!!!" For an eternal noob, it makes me feel like a guru for a minute there..........

bun-bun195333
06-27-2005, 11:35 AM
Get thee online with a regular crew and TeamSpeak and you'll never touch another sim. All you need is a fast internet connection and free time.
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sgilewicz
06-27-2005, 01:05 PM
Sounds like we are about the same age, same point in life and playing the same games! Just finished "The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape From Butcher Bay". Surprisingly good! Give it a go!

santini812
06-27-2005, 11:12 PM
Well after creating a few more craters at the landing threshold of runway 36, I'm still plugging away. Earlier I was complaining about a lack of flying time, the matter has taken a turn for the worse, I've just learned that my second favorite flight sim Falcon 4.0 is coming out with a new version along with a 716 page manual...I spent 4 years in Korea at various times as Tower Controller and a Aviation L&O with 2nd Infantry Divison and I doubt the entire war plan for defending Korea was 716 pages. Oh well, I will give the wife a new credit card and a phone number to a male escort service, write the kids out of the will, insuring they will not talk to me anymore, and then I can spend my time between ILS-2, Falcon 4.0, and Silent Hunter III. It may not be a very productive life but it sure is fun.

alert_1
06-28-2005, 02:39 AM
Said someone 'stick time' ? OK, but how much for me? LOL! I have had about 1500 online missions under my virtual belt, flying IL2 fro 2001, but I'm still going donw in flames a lot more often then I wish http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif
Maybe I'm too old and not gifted enough http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Pirschjaeger
06-28-2005, 03:08 AM
I'm back in a noobish state(gotta love IL2 lingo)at present but used to do fairly well. When I started flying online I got my butt kicked constantly.

At the point where I was about to give up and call it quits, a buddy(the best pilot I've met online, JG54 Serpentblade)told me I need to continue and record tracks.

We flew online, 1 vs 1 and we both recorded. He sent me his track to show me what he was seeing. I was totally amazed. Watching a track of yourself, recorded by your opponent, will open your eyes. You will see what you are doing, from a different perspecive. You will see all you mistakes.

I did this a few time and noticed all my mistakes. Then offline I put some consideration into my flying skills. Within a relatively short time, I was killing everyone I wanted to. Also I developed a few strategies that work well will my skill and my choice of plane.

To make things even more interesting, in dfight practice I'd fly the 109F4 or F2 against the guyz with the 109K4s and win.

So, in summary, the best advice I've seen yet for noobs is to have someone record while fighting you, 1 vs 1. Ask them to send the track and then you must watch it. You'll see all your mistakes. See what your opponent sees from his cockpit.

Fritz

Raptor_20thFG
07-01-2005, 02:56 AM
Well, I was never that good to begin with I mean I could take off and land and navigate and dare I say take the butt out of the enemy a time or two. But now comes the New Fm and I am having to start all over again.


I am having a blast

TgD Thunderbolt56
07-01-2005, 06:49 AM
I've got the new FM down fairly well, so...where do you live?


TB

BSS_Goat
07-01-2005, 09:44 AM
Originally posted by Pirschjaeger:
BLAH BLAH ECT ECT
So, in summary, the best advice I've seen yet for noobs is to have someone record while fighting you, 1 vs 1. Ask them to send the track and then you must watch it. You'll see all your mistakes. See what your opponent sees from his cockpit.

Fritz

Very good idea!