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MisterNiceGuy
02-14-2005, 06:28 AM
http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2005/Feb-05-Sat-2005/news/25808494.html

This gentleman was espousing his economic theory that homosexuals don't tend to plan for the future the way that heterosexuals do because they don't have children and live riskier lifestyles. A student took offense and now the University is threatening to punish the lecturer.

So should you have total academic freedom at universities or should we make sure no one is offended by our teaching?

Cowanchicken
02-14-2005, 01:33 PM
Total academic freedom as long as it doesn't offend anyone. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Leep
02-14-2005, 03:35 PM
I think we should have totally offensive academia, as long as it doesn't free anyone, yeah , that's what I think alright, I think... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Leep Out;

Cowanchicken
02-14-2005, 07:28 PM
Better yet, free offense, as long as it doesn't precipitate academia.

Trogdor93
02-14-2005, 08:51 PM
Take your hate speech somewhere else! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

Olegious
02-15-2005, 01:13 AM
what i want to know, would the school have made a fuss if the professor instead of discussing gays, called Bush a nazi, or maybe praised the 9-11 attackers, or maybe said that we deserved to be attacked on 9-11? something tells me that they wouldnt care

durdd
02-16-2005, 08:43 PM
Oleg, I could totally see a highschool jumping on any 4 of those mentioned.

Demon_Mustang
02-16-2005, 09:47 PM
Sure if the world was truly objective, but we all know the truth. It's really up to the school what they choose to care about and what they don't. Maybe somewhere there is a truly unbiased school where they will treat everything with the same standard, but truthfully, it all boils down to the opinions of a few people to decide the entire schools' policies, so their personal bias will come to play.

Cowanchicken
02-17-2005, 11:14 AM
Keep this in mind the next time someone whines about the ACLU only protecting abortionists and homosexuals.

The American Civil Liberties Union of Nevada, on Hoppe's behalf, sent a letter to UNLV officials alleging that the university violated Hoppe's free speech rights and his right to academic freedom.

Demon_Mustang
02-17-2005, 03:14 PM
Wow thanks cow, since some of us have a physical limitation preventing us from clicking that link and reading that for ourselves... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Anyway, I think his generalization that homosexuals might plan less on the future isn't offensive, especially since he gave examples of all types, so it's basically just a general trend statement. Of course, the statement that homosexuals lead riskier lifestyles might offend, and that is more of an opinionated statement. However, he didn't base his entire lecture around homosexuals and he is not inciting violence toward homosexuals, so he is still protected under the 1st amendment.

Of course, not everything is protected under the 1st amendment, such as yelling fire at a movie theater. Any language that can be considered as hate speach, "fighting words," inciting of violence, posing clear and present danger, and a few others are not covered by the 1st Amendment.

Calling Bush a nazi is still protected under the 1st amendment, and I bet if he had done that instead, the university would be really quick to point that out and leave him alone, lol. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

MisterNiceGuy
02-18-2005, 07:29 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Olegious:
what i want to know, would the school have made a fuss if the professor instead of discussing gays, called Bush a nazi, or maybe praised the 9-11 attackers, or maybe said that we deserved to be attacked on 9-11? something tells me that they wouldnt care <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't know... some professors have gotten into trouble for making remarks about 9/11 that could be construed as being supportive of the terrorists.

I think the underlying problem is one of PC. In a democratic society, the authoritarian concept of PC grows stronger and stronger until eventually you can only use the official terms to describe an event. People become sensitive and use the state as a mechanism to bash those who say things they don't like, regardless of their intrinsic truth. This is the stage we are at now but we are not far from imprisioning people who make unpopular comments.

Leep
02-18-2005, 04:56 PM
Ok MNG, so now the worlds problems are because of PCs??? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif Well, I beg to differ- well I'm not really begging.. kinda just asking in a more forceful manner... Hey I had manners once but a bunch of homosexuals srole them form me and then they didn't even use them. I heard they sold them on EBay.
And about PCs causing all this trouble- why if it wasn't for PCs you wouldn't be able to write your words of dubious wisdom or play online or nuttin' like that, so there... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Leep Out.
Oh, I see my sister was online earlier telling everyone I was gone, dang her anyway--
Shes the one that signs her posts with...
Peel Out: http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Hornet57
02-19-2005, 08:26 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MisterNiceGuy:
I don't know... some professors have gotten into trouble for making remarks about 9/11 that could be construed as being supportive of the terrorists.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I wonder what this moron would have thought if the terrorists flew a plane into his TeePee.
MNG this idiot's remarks where not constureded as being supportive of the terrorists....it is clearly stated by the devil himself or like Leep pointed out his double.