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Superjew1
12-27-2008, 04:35 PM
Im curious as to why the Cougar is so popular, yet needs so much money to modify it from the factory. Asides being a great looking joystick, from what I gather is you cant fly well with one without $100 or so in modifications.

Ive already shelled out $200 on the cougar HOTAS, what all should I upgrade to make sure Ill have an easy time flying it the moment I get it?

Bearcat99
12-27-2008, 04:55 PM
From my understanding $100 is the conservative estimate..

Superjew1
12-27-2008, 05:13 PM
Well is there anyone who has an easytime flying a Cougar without upgrading anything?

Superjew1
12-27-2008, 09:45 PM
any1?

Superjew1
12-27-2008, 10:24 PM
SO basically, from what I gather from everyones silence is that you pretty much have to spend more than $100 in modding a cougar to have a joystick thats decent enough to game with? Can any fellow cougar owners confirm this for me?

Feathered_IV
12-27-2008, 10:47 PM
Oh, you're talking about the cougar joysticks. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Stiletto-
12-28-2008, 02:57 AM
Uh...

I was attacked by one a few weeks ago.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

K_Freddie
12-28-2008, 03:10 AM
Originally posted by Feathered_IV:
Oh, you're talking about the cougar joysticks. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif
Where have you been hanging out.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif
There's nothing like a real Cougar .. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

UgoRipley
12-28-2008, 04:52 AM
Originally posted by Superjew1:
SO basically, from what I gather from everyones silence......
Hey hey, take it easy...People is on Xmas/New Year's holidays, that's why most are silent...you should wait some more days before concluding anything.

Having said that, some years ago I modded mine with Evenstrain's gimbals (now discontinued), not because it was sloppy but only because I wanted to make it better.
I don't remember the cost, nor do I know how much a UBER II NXT mod costs now.

http://cougar.frugalsworld.com/mods.php

Anyway, through time, I've read of many satisfied customers with stock Cougars, modding it is not mandatory.
http://forums.frugalsworld.com/vbb/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=8


...And now I leave for my holidays !! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

bolox00
12-28-2008, 04:54 AM
well i ran an unmodded cougar for 4+ years without any major probs. i regard upgrades as an option not a 'must have' (imho http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif )

Fenice_1965
12-28-2008, 05:55 AM
Well mine was unmodded. I played about six months (I was playing IL2 about 40 hours a month) and first i had to change the clean and then change the pots because the stick started drifting. Then the center joke became so great it was substantially unplayable. The mechanic wear out fast and even faster if the cougar arrives without grease on the gimbals as was mine.
Thrustmaster anyway sent me all the replacement parts without any expense. Now I'm using a saitek x52 pro and even if the stick isn't so fine I can play without the hassle of destroying the stick using it normally.

Player_43
12-28-2008, 05:57 AM
So it means that you had to have this option.

blairgowrie
12-28-2008, 06:03 AM
Superjew1. Will you please check your Private Topics.

Matz0r
12-28-2008, 06:41 AM
You can upgrade it with the hall sensors for $100 right away, it's a huge improvement over the stock pots and they're virtually maintainence free, but it's definately not a must. Stick will work fine as it is for years as long as you keep it well greased and pots clean. Center play _will develop after a while, that's when I got the u2nxt mod which I believe is about $300. Money well spent imho http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif

bun-bun195333
12-28-2008, 07:40 AM
Don't get a Cougar unless you have the mods figured into the cost. With gimbal and Hall Effect sensors the Cougar is the best joystick available.

Cougar Mods (http://cougar.frugalsworld.com/mods.php#nxt)

I have the Evenstrain mod on my stick.

Worf101
12-29-2008, 09:20 AM
As I stated in a previous recent thread, I've done both the IJ's UberII NXT mod (about 350 USD) Cubby's Halls sensor mod, (about 120 USD or so) and the speedbrake mods. Add to that another 3 bills for Dieter's Simpeds and you've got an idea how much money you can spend on this hobby. And compared to other mods, this one's cheap. Worth every penny though.

Da Worfster

TX-Gunslinger
12-29-2008, 10:37 AM
When I first purchased my Cougar, the first mod I did was to remove the stock rubber "boot" which surrounds the base of the joystick as it enters the base.

This markedly reduced the stick forces, and I used it in this manner for about a 10 months until I'd saved up enough money for I.J.'s UberII NXT mod (with hall sensors).

I've had this gimbals mod since 2005 and it's pretty incredible.

One of the areas in which the Cougar shines that has not been mentioned, is programmabilty. Since there is a micro-processor in the joystick, you actually download your joystick profiles and programs "to the stick" versus having to have a background process running to convert joystick commands to macro's.

S~

Gunny

Tully__
12-29-2008, 04:58 PM
I've met IJ, he's a really nice guy, proud of doing the best quality work he can for the lowest price. I've never had a cougar myself, but if you're considering one IJ's mods are a good quality option to the original cast soft alloy gimbals that come stock in the Cougar.

claypidgon
12-29-2008, 05:24 PM
Originally posted by Superjew1:
Im curious as to why the Cougar is so popular, yet needs so much money to modify it from the factory. Asides being a great looking joystick, from what I gather is you cant fly well with one without $100 or so in modifications.

Ive already shelled out $200 on the cougar HOTAS, what all should I upgrade to make sure Ill have an easy time flying it the moment I get it?

I flew with my Cougar stock for months with no problem..Then I had the whole set of mods done to it.A thousand times better..By the way with the original purchase price close to a $1000...

nubtingle
12-29-2008, 05:49 PM
I bought my Cougar years ago, second hand from Ebay. I used it as stock until one of the default potentiometers got a bit wonky - then I shelled out and bought a set of IJ's Uber II NXT gimbals and the hall sensors. If flight simming is a serious hobby you simply can't get better hardware than a modded Cougar. Its expensive, but the quality is amazing.