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weasel75
10-23-2004, 09:01 PM
Hi!
Just flew against some D3A1 (QMB) in my early Corsair. And the things came after me instead of just flying in a line waiting for the slaughter.

The aircrafts seemed fast and highly maneuverable.
So next QMB-session: D3A1 vs P40.

I downed 2 P40 in the D3A1 .. it turns great, it has "okay"-speed and it hardly stalls. WOW!
Its nearly to good to be true.

chris455
10-23-2004, 10:25 PM
A deathtrap in R/L, provided the US Navy or USAAF or RAAF had any AC in the vicinity.

p1ngu666
10-23-2004, 10:29 PM
oh ya its a little jem, first time onwhine i was out doing ki43 and zero, guns are useless tho http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

next time onwhine, i was gunned to bits http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

btw u can fold wings below 200k ias and still this http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Daiichidoku
10-24-2004, 02:07 AM
IRL, they were utilized that way, in a pinch...just like Dauntlesses were, but far more ably, from a dogfighter POV

Mr.Drop
10-24-2004, 09:59 PM
D3A1...
That's not a plane, that's a balloon for it never stalls. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif
Fighters like P40 stand no chance in T&B with D3A1, and NO P40 pilot will T&B with D3A1, they always BnZ you. Attacked by a high-speed fighter from low 6 o'clock, D3A1 can hardly survive.

weasel75
10-25-2004, 01:20 AM
Thanks, I too had the impression that the AI was confused by me http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

Maybe they cant handle a fighting bomber well ... same when one flies A20 vs Zero.

weasel75
10-25-2004, 10:20 AM
Okay, the key is, that the AI is still in "russia mode". They try to TnB, no matter what aircraft they are in. As before (FW190), AI will never fky in a straight line, except when under attack.

Tested P-38 vs. Zero, and it became deadly obvious that they have limited idea about the aircraft they fly. 4vs4 and I left the battlefield alone (in P38) ....

And as before, teamwork is bad, that is especially painfull in early allied aircrafts.
A Zero can get away from an attacker that is close on its six, in F4F3 you dont stand a chance (dive takes to long to build speed up, till then you got some shells up the tail-end). So when flying the F4F3, you need some mate who helps out (in F4 you dont shake bandits off your six, you clear a friends six and in turn he does the same for you).

Mr.Drop
10-25-2004, 07:50 PM
You are talking about the tactic that two F4F fly like waving a rope? It works but it only works when u are flying with a familar mate. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
With a AI, forget about it, for you are always fighting alone. Just dive, turn right and try to enlarge the distance between u and that Zeke on your six. When the distance is longer than 3km, turn back and try to shoot the following Zeke head to head. Remember your F4F's firepower is very effective to Zeke's weak structure, only several shot of .50 on Zeke's body will split it into pieces.

Willey
10-25-2004, 08:10 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by p1ngu666:
btw u can fold wings below 200k ias and still this http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Onwhine, I are very often able to have them folded at any speed without taking damage. Talk about a really cool FM with clipped wings and canards http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif . Sadly, no better roll rate then, but better Acceleration, speed... yeah, but not much - but you'll get quite much extra speed with folded wings at 50% throttle. I flew an A6M2-21 and held it at 200 IAS just above SL. Then I folded the wings, didn't change throttle or prop and just pulled back to keep it up and yeah, it went up to some 240-250 IAS http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif . But a t full speed, there's hardly a difference.

I like to fold my wings one carrier length before touchdown. That keeps my plane's *** down on the deck http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif