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cawimmer430
02-03-2008, 04:44 PM
Here are detailed shots of the Messerschmitt Me-262 in the Deutsches Museum in Munich. The aircraft on display (factory number 500071) belonged to the 3rd Group of Jagdgeschwader 7 stationed in Fürstenfeldbruck in Southern Germany. This Me-262 saw combat on April 25, 1945 during which it had to intercept an Allied bomber raid. Afterwards the pilot apparently lost his orientation and mistakenly landed in Dübendorf, Switzerland. Both pilot and aircraft were interned. In 1957 the airplane was given to the Deutsches Museum by the Swiss government. Enjoy the pictures! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Wikipedia Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Me-262

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End of Part I

leitmotiv
02-03-2008, 04:52 PM
Magnificent beast. Makes the 1/4 Prussian of me proud.

JSG72
02-03-2008, 04:55 PM
Great shots.

What part of the 262, don't you understand?

Dance
02-03-2008, 05:06 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif Reminds me a little of the science museum in London. The Fi 103 hanging there anyway http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

bhunter2112
02-03-2008, 05:10 PM
So the Germans will not display the Nazi symbol even on a museum piece? Both planes were devoid of the symbol even with historical markings.
I am interested - does the symbol appear anywhere? Are period uniforms-art-posters-items with the symbol displayed? Is the symbol covered? Just curious....I know the symbol and "salute" are against the law in public in Germany.

Schwarz.13
02-03-2008, 05:18 PM
Fantastic pictures again Christian, thanks!

You have inspired me to finally buy a digital camera - tell me, were you using a tripod for these pictures or are they handheld?

CUJO_1970
02-03-2008, 05:36 PM
Originally posted by JSG72:
Great shots.

What part of the 262, don't you understand?

LMAO!

zardozid
02-03-2008, 05:41 PM
...this I like. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

thanks

Haigotron
02-03-2008, 08:37 PM
hands down, one of the sexiest planes of ww2, if not theee sexiest

jolly_magpie
02-03-2008, 09:24 PM
Great stuff. How about a few of the Komet as well?

Loco-S
02-03-2008, 09:30 PM
sexeeee...

Von_Rat
02-03-2008, 09:43 PM
great pics,,, are you a pro.

ive tried taking pics of aircraft in museums and they look like **** compared to yours.

those really are some great looking planes. thanks for the pics.

i always make a point of checking out your threads. they are always a cut above the usual drivel thats in many of the post here, including those i post myself. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Badsight-
02-03-2008, 11:14 PM
awesome 1930's engineering

rohrspatz
02-04-2008, 02:43 AM
Originally posted by bhunter2112:
Are period uniforms-art-posters-items with the symbol displayed? Is the symbol covered? Just curious....I know the symbol and "salute" are against the law in public in Germany.
It is allowed to show the swastika in museeums or any history related document, movies and so on (We're not living in Orwells World ;-) ). In the Speyer museum i.e, you'll find a 109 with swastika on it. I don't know, why its removed on the munich planes.

I don't know the exact wording of the law which bans Nazi symbols, but it's more towards trivializing or glorifying these. There are some restrictions when showing them in public and since its alway a fine line you'd better leave them away unless you're historian...

RegRag1977
02-04-2008, 05:30 AM
This jet definitely rocks! It's for sure one of the most beautiful WW2 aircraft.

Thanks for the pics!

rohrspatz
02-04-2008, 06:42 AM
Originally posted by RegRag1977:
This jet definitely rocks! It's for sure one of the most beautiful WW2 aircraft.

Thanks for the pics!

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Anyone wants to invite Tagert to this thread ?http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

cawimmer430
02-04-2008, 07:52 AM
Anytime guys! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


Originally posted by bhunter2112:
So the Germans will not display the Nazi symbol even on a museum piece? Both planes were devoid of the symbol even with historical markings.
I am interested - does the symbol appear anywhere? Are period uniforms-art-posters-items with the symbol displayed? Is the symbol covered? Just curious....I know the symbol and "salute" are against the law in public in Germany.

The Swastika AFAIK can only be displayed on historical machinery if they're housed in museums and for historical purposes. I suppose the Deutsches Museum choose not to have it for fear of offending some international tourists that visit the museum.

The BF-109 G4 in Speyer has a Swastika on it, but then again this museum is not so well known to the international community. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

cawimmer430
02-04-2008, 07:53 AM
Originally posted by Schwarz.13:
Fantastic pictures again Christian, thanks!

You have inspired me to finally buy a digital camera - tell me, were you using a tripod for these pictures or are they handheld?

Hi and thanks!

Replied to you in the other thread. A mixture of high ISO settings and quick shutter speeds as well as different exposure settings and of course a steady hand. No tripod used. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

cawimmer430
02-04-2008, 07:53 AM
Originally posted by jolly_magpie:
Great stuff. How about a few of the Komet as well?

Thanks. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

The Komet? Here you go: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/3961002136

cawimmer430
02-04-2008, 08:02 AM
Originally posted by Von_Rat:
great pics,,, are you a pro.

ive tried taking pics of aircraft in museums and they look like **** compared to yours.

those really are some great looking planes. thanks for the pics.

i always make a point of checking out your threads. they are always a cut above the usual drivel thats in many of the post here, including those i post myself. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Thanks so much for those kind words. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I'm actually an amateur photographer but lately I've been really getting deeper into the subject and hence know a few tricks.

When shooting in poorly lit places you can do a number of things. The use of flash is probably the first thing people do but the shot ends up looking very "artifical" and glare and light reflection are going to be pretty common, especially with a lot of metal or glass around.

So what you might want to do for some good quality picture in such a situation is use a tripod, keep the ISO setting low and use a long exposure time to take pictures. The advantages of this are that you generally end up with a good quality photo. If people, cars or other objects in motion are in the background they'll appear blurry as the long exposure time literally records their movements.

In my case, I didn't have a tripod so I had to make use of quick shutter speeds, different exposure settings and in some cases a high ISO setting resulting in some grainy photos. What I like to do is take "test shots". I take a photo of what I want to photograph and see what it looks like in the viewfinder. If there's too much light in the photo, I can lower the ISO setting and perhaps decrease the exposure setting (-0.3 or -0.7 always give me good pics, sometimes even -1.0 or higher).

But I suppose a steady hand is also a major factor. Before I take pictures in poorly lit areas sans a tripod, I always take a deep breath and relax - and snap the shot. Works for me! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

So like I said, I'm not a pro (I wish I was!) but playing around with the camera and reading a bit up on the subject are the best means of learning. Plus going out and taking pictures! Every crappy picture I took in a museum in the past has helped me learn to become better. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

stalkervision
02-04-2008, 03:21 PM
What? Where is a picture of the famous ww2 German..

"Fliegenden Toilettensitz" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFCBfN554Mc&feature=related

cawimmer430
02-05-2008, 08:23 AM
Originally posted by stalkervision:
What? Where is a picture of the famous ww2 German..

"Fliegenden Toilettensitz" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFCBfN554Mc&feature=related

Obviously not in the museum! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif