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MrQBerrt
12-08-2005, 10:41 AM
I just bought a 32" widescreen LCD TV. And while I do enjoy gloating about that, it isn't the only reason I'm starting a thread about it.

This TV has brought more fun and immersiveness to the game than any other thing I've bought for it save a TrackIR. I can now see so many things that I couldn't before. Just to name one advantage it has made my gunnery accuracy shoot through the roof as it is much easier to see what direction far off planes are flying and has made it much easier to see my tracers.

I had about $1000 saved up for a new rig, so that I could make IL-2 look better and hopefully bring a breath of fresh air into the game for me. However, instead of this upgrade, I bought this TV, which only costs $700 (so my rig upgrade account still has $300 in it).

If you are considering upgrading your computer to make IL-2 look better, I suggest getting a big widescreen TV/Monitor instead. I'm glad I did.

Now on the subject of widescreen support. The only thing that seems to be lacking is a wider FOV, if Oleg would just give us commands for making the FOV a little wider, widescreen gaming would work great (right now it works pretty good). I'm sure this subject has come up many times, but the search feature is down (as always). Can anyone link me to Oleg giving his views on having a wider FOV?

Fohtee
12-08-2005, 11:03 AM
http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1809

I use a 24" Widescreen Dell monitor and this solution worked wonders. Be aware that if you're in fog, however, the left and right of the screen will sometimes be missing the fog effect as I don't think the game is 100% widescreen compatible.

Still looks great, however, and welcome to widescreen gaming! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Troll2k
12-08-2005, 02:52 PM
So you admit to using the money cheat(More money,better equipment).

Now you want Oleg to give you the FOV cheat also.Is not 1 advantage enough?

**** a 32 inch LCD for $700.00.What a bargain!

All kidding aside I hope you enjoy it for many years to come.(the tv)(and the game)

MrQBerrt
12-08-2005, 03:44 PM
I prefer to call it the immersion cheat, but sure http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Also, with a widescreen I have a smaller fov than others without a widescreen. Even if FOV is made to be wider, players with a 4:3 aspect ratio will still have a better FOV than players with a wider aspect ratio.

So while I'll humor you and call the TV a cheat, the FOV is hard to conceive of as a cheat.

Worf101
12-08-2005, 04:30 PM
Funny, I started a thread on the GD board and asked if certain material things i.e. like a faster rig or bigger screen could help one be a better pilot. Most said no... but you say yes... thanks

99th Worf101

Grey_Mouser67
12-08-2005, 06:44 PM
The equipment can make certain aspects of your game better, but to the degree you are a pilot I think that is purely the amount of gray matter between your ears, your eyesight and your hand eye coordination.

I find 50% of my flying skill is really the degree of strategy and tactics I employ. Gunnery, flying ability and hardware maybe 25% and the balance of the other 25% is my knowledge of my adversaries aircraft which allows me to properly employ the other 75%.

Yes, I'd rather have good equipment than bad but it will never make a good pilot bad or vice versa...only enhance or detract slightly.

Cyrano
12-08-2005, 06:57 PM
I was under the impression that large screens (+21") have slow response times which hurts gaming. Is that not the case with Il2 ?

e2michaelb
12-08-2005, 07:43 PM
32-inches? Isn't that close to the RL width of an average cockpit? Talk about a "VistaVision" view of the world.

ZappaTime
12-09-2005, 05:38 PM
MrQBerrt, have you any piccies of your 32" rig set-up?

I'm sure there's plenty of other nosey folk would like to see it too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

mean_mango
12-12-2005, 11:15 AM
Cyrano, I think slow response time is a factor of some LCD flat panel displays, regardless of the size. I have a 50" DLP rear projection television and it's every bit as fast as a CRT. But after a couple of months I stopped playing on it because 1) IL2 lack of support for widescreen means I get less FOV on super large screen http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif and 2) clouds and fog for some reason don't look good on DLP. So I went back to my 19" CRT and IL2 has never looks sweeter! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

However, when I play Half-Life 2 on the 50" w/ 5.1 sound.... sweet candy nirvana! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif That's because Half-Life 2 has explicit support for widescreen. Take note, 1C!

MrQBerrt
12-12-2005, 04:24 PM
Working on the pics.

And HL2 also has a console command for changing your FOV (1C take note here too). I was running around with a 110 degree FOV the other day and it looked pretty good (any higher than that didn't work so well).

Dexmeister
12-13-2005, 07:22 AM
Sorry I can't locate images from IL2 at the moment, but here's LOMAC on my projector. That's about 77" wide if I recall correctly. Since this photo was taken I've upgraded to an HD projector. Just another option to consider http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

That's a 27" TV at the bottom for reference...

http://www.asic.ca/LOMAC/LOMAC_SCREEN1.JPG

http://www.asic.ca/LOMAC/LOMAC_SCREEN2.JPG

ploughman
12-13-2005, 01:00 PM
Wow! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

That's amazing. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

And I'm not talking about the Tornado on the TV not neither.

Dexmeister
12-13-2005, 02:54 PM
Ha ha, good eyes! I didn't realize what you were talking about. Yeah, that is a Tornado on the TV....

PriK
12-15-2005, 11:20 PM
I don't think I'd like it that big in 4:3 personally, but it would be nice to have 16:9 in IL2 at some point.

Ritter_Cuda
12-16-2005, 12:40 AM
Dexmeister can you post the specs on that projector i was told that they can not work for game because there too slow and you would burn out the lamps( not meant for the work of a game)
ttfn
Cuda

Treetop64
12-16-2005, 12:47 AM
Originally posted by Dexmeister:
Ha ha, good eyes! I didn't realize what you were talking about. Yeah, that is a Tornado on the TV....

So, you like planes, eh? Just how many models do you have stacked up in that room, anyway?

Oh, and good positioning of the Tornado by the way...you know...behind the MiG 29! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Odranoel1
12-16-2005, 04:01 AM
Talking about a bigger screen being a competitive advantage:
I saw a very interesting post on a thread in Oleg's ready room that showed a 24" LCD standing on its side (the 1900 pixels being VERTICAL lol).
While it looks odd and disturbing, it is in my opinion a significant advantage when turnfighting. The vertical FOV being twice as large means you can keep your gunsight AND bandit checked, plus instruments if in low visibility conditions.
Im seriously considering it... the problem being a GPU that can drive the 1900 pixels...

VVaFFenPanZZeR
12-16-2005, 06:26 AM
Dude why r u flying that shi@#$%!y flanker, and not the F-15???

Dexmeister
12-16-2005, 07:22 AM
Originally posted by Ritter_Cuda:
Dexmeister can you post the specs on that projector i was told that they can not work for game because there too slow and you would burn out the lamps( not meant for the work of a game)
ttfn
Cuda

Not sure the specs on the projector, but I use it for gaming both on PC and also XBox in HD. It's GREAT for gaming.

I don't know what you read or where, but it's all good.

III-JG27_DV8
12-16-2005, 11:07 AM
Woa! 32" LCD TV for 700.00!!

Where? When? How? You lucky son of a gun!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

MrQBerrt
12-16-2005, 12:31 PM
$700 including $100 shipping, if you were able to pick it up, it would only be $600.

It was a black friday sale (extra $300 off) of this (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000B9UX6Q/104-9739514-6081501?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=172282) monitor.