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Freelancer-1
11-02-2005, 07:03 AM
Find the La5
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y189/Freelancer1/LA-Stealth.gif

Archangel2980
11-02-2005, 07:03 AM
hehe http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

Bearcat99
11-02-2005, 07:14 AM
I found it.. but what is that a grass covered skin?

LOL.. that is the very reason why most competitive servers turn off skin download.

han freak solo
11-02-2005, 07:22 AM
Originally posted by Bearcat99:
I found it.. but what is that a grass covered skin?

LOL.. that is the very reason why most competitive servers turn off skin download.

I guess that would make a game lopsided and challenging. That is the point of camoflage though.

Estocade85
11-02-2005, 07:26 AM
Actual WW2 Bf-109, http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/2684/1jg27wh35ec.jpg

Waldo.Pepper
11-02-2005, 08:37 AM
Pffft - cool sure but who needs it when we still have the dissapearing LOD problem.

Freelancer-1
11-02-2005, 09:50 AM
Originally posted by Bearcat99:
I found it.. but what is that a grass covered skin?

LOL.. that is the very reason why most competitive servers turn off skin download.

I call it "Screenshot Camo".

Not to worry though, it only disappears if the light is just right. Otherwise, it shows up just like any other plane.

dbillo
11-02-2005, 10:28 AM
Originally posted by han freak solo:
I guess that would make a game lopsided and challenging. That is the point of camoflage though.
Agreed, but why is it, then, that so many planes (notably a lot of the Bf-109s) have a cam paint job, and then have a bright yellow nose or tail? Seems to defeat the purpose of the cam.

Deadmeat313
11-02-2005, 11:17 AM
I'll bet you that messer pilot was on the radio ecstatically shouting "Look at meeee. I found a patch of ground that exactly matches my camo!!!" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

The yellow nose was to aid the target recognition of the squadrons to reduce friendly fire incidents, apparently. Of course, it also aided the enemy in their unfriendly fire. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

T.

Vipez-
11-02-2005, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by Bearcat99:


that is the very reason why most competitive servers turn off skin download.

Actually it's simply because skindownload causes so much lag.. hopefully in BoB we will get better netcode, which allows custom skins... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

FliegerAas
11-02-2005, 05:54 PM
Nice one, I made the same thing some time ago http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif.


http://www.negativeactiongroup.at/portal/e107_plugins/coppermine_menu/albums/userpics/10075/Tarnung_Online.JPG

Badsight.
11-02-2005, 09:06 PM
and this is up close & detailed

http://xs53.xs.to/pics/05444/tree_camo_LA1.JPG

http://xs53.xs.to/pics/05444/tree_camo_LA2.JPG

Freelancer-1
11-02-2005, 10:47 PM
Nice Badsight!

I'll see your Lavochkin and raise you a Hienkel

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y189/Freelancer1/He111H6.gif

vanjast
11-02-2005, 11:05 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Xiolablu3
11-02-2005, 11:49 PM
Originally posted by dbillo:
Agreed, but why is it, then, that so many planes (notably a lot of the Bf-109s) have a cam paint job, and then have a bright yellow nose or tail? Seems to defeat the purpose of the cam.

That was early war , when the germans were winning, and camoflauge didnt mean so much, it was more important to see if they were allied planes.

On the later war planes they are all camo.

Look at the Allied planes which had a similar idea on and after D_Day. They had the black and white stripes so allied planes could identify them too, because there were likely to be many many more allied planes in the air, it was important to identify them, and to save blue on blue incidents.

Early war when the Allies were on the defensive, they had all camo.

MAILMAN------
11-05-2005, 08:46 AM
They "ALL" had some sort of national insignia painted on the fuselage and/or wings regardless of camouflage. Some plane shapes on opposing side were very close and the insignia was necessary to ID it. This was especially necessary to prevent nervous trigger happy ground units from taking pot shots at its own planes.

major_setback
11-05-2005, 10:09 AM
I always thought how stupid it was to paint a bloody target on the side of your plane!!!!...that's asking for trouble.


Mind you...the Germans painted cross-hairs on theirs! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

leeG727
11-05-2005, 10:43 AM
Background pattern matching is one of the ways visual camouflage works. But the eye is very sensitive to motion so the Bf 109 pictured that so closely blends into its background in a still photo would be pretty obvious with its black blotch patter rushing over the fixed landscape. In a computer game, both the near-field aircraft target and the far-field earth background are rendered at the same screen pixel resolution on a flat 2 dimensional monitor. This makes the problem of detecting the target against the background worse for the gamer. Edges are a key visual clue the eye uses for detection. I wonder if just enhancing the edges in the visual modeling would be enough to provide a more satisfying game experience. We don€t want an unrealistic high contrast outline around the plane, but perhaps a subtle €œaura€ to cue the eye to the edge between plane and background and make the plane appear sharper and more focused (closer) against a slightly blurred background (farther) would work.