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XyZspineZyX
07-21-2003, 11:10 AM
Dont get me wrong, FB is fantastic and deseerves much praise...but would you like to see an ETO add on as much as I? I am getting extremely bored with endless campaigns covering the same scenarios. With regards to FB I presumed it would feature the Spitfire MkV/IX..did this aircraft not take part in the East?

What I am really whinging about is the fact that a Battle of Britain/ETO scenario would be a fantastic add-on...We are still to see a decent BoB/ETO campaign/game on the market-(CFS1, Rowan's BoB can both go p*ss up a tree, B17 2 fell by the wayside due to lack of aftermarket support from Hasbro!).

Anyone share what may be seen as a rather shallow view on this?

XyZspineZyX
07-21-2003, 11:10 AM
Dont get me wrong, FB is fantastic and deseerves much praise...but would you like to see an ETO add on as much as I? I am getting extremely bored with endless campaigns covering the same scenarios. With regards to FB I presumed it would feature the Spitfire MkV/IX..did this aircraft not take part in the East?

What I am really whinging about is the fact that a Battle of Britain/ETO scenario would be a fantastic add-on...We are still to see a decent BoB/ETO campaign/game on the market-(CFS1, Rowan's BoB can both go p*ss up a tree, B17 2 fell by the wayside due to lack of aftermarket support from Hasbro!).

Anyone share what may be seen as a rather shallow view on this?

XyZspineZyX
07-21-2003, 11:18 AM
charlie19sqn wrote:
- Dont get me wrong, FB is fantastic and deseerves
- much praise...but would you like to see an ETO add
- on as much as I? I am getting extremely bored with
- endless campaigns covering the same scenarios. With
- regards to FB I presumed it would feature the
- Spitfire MkV/IX..did this aircraft not take part in
- the East?
-
- What I am really whinging about is the fact that a
- Battle of Britain/ETO scenario would be a fantastic
- add-on...We are still to see a decent BoB/ETO
- campaign/game on the market-(CFS1, Rowan's BoB can
- both go p*ss up a tree, B17 2 fell by the wayside
- due to lack of aftermarket support from Hasbro!).
-
- Anyone share what may be seen as a rather shallow
- view on this?
-

Yeah, I got a shallow view for you: First of all EAW (European Air War) was a very, very good BoB/ETO game, so if you haven't tried it yet, you definitely should. There are zillions of mods and addons made by fans as well.

'Nother thing is that I'm not bored with the Eastern Front. I just look forward to even more of the planes that participated. All those unsung unknowns.

What I would like to see, though, would be a Mediterranaen/North African based flight-sim. That has, AFAIK, never been done before. You would get a lot of the lesser known planes, and you would get carrier actions without making just another Pacific game.

cheers/slush



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XyZspineZyX
07-21-2003, 11:22 AM
Unfortunately this argument/idea has been debated endlessly on these boards. It will just attract the same old answers and/or flames.

So here's my same old answer. For me, tired of Eastern Front - no, never. Wish there was a BoB, Mediterranean and Pacific version of FB as well? - definitely.
And we are all waiting for a Spit V at the least, no dates for it though. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Edit: Have a look here: http://forums.ubi.com/messages/message_view-topic.asp?name=us_il2sturmovik_gd&id=zclqz
It seems that a Normandy map might be in the offing.



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XyZspineZyX
07-21-2003, 11:24 AM
Is it possible to get tired of this sim???? /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif Naaaaaah!!!! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
Anyway, you would say the same whatever theater were used...
BTW, I use to change a lot from base to base during campaigns...it makes life more interesting...new places, new girls.../i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-21-2003, 11:27 AM
Well, just check out Cartrix`s thread. You may just get a Western taste soon... /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
07-21-2003, 12:19 PM
If there would be Forgotten Battles 2, I would hope it for staying in Eastern Front, as we have plenty of BoBs.. Mediterranean could be fun too, but Somehow I don't think you can compare the fights in eastern front and mediterranean fights... in numbers..

Instead, more flyable eastern front planes.. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-21-2003, 04:51 PM
Wait till we get first Eastern Front air combat sim, then ask.

FB not really "Eastern Front" sim, FB mostly Luftwaffe/VVS pilot sim.

XyZspineZyX
07-22-2003, 02:40 PM
There is an interesting reply by LightBulb, over at il2center about a Med Theatre. http://www.il2center.com/Forums/viewtopic.php?p=31842#31842


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XyZspineZyX
07-22-2003, 02:52 PM
Yeah, interesting. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

But I really would like a quote on that. I never thought a Med add-on was considered, nor a Med game. I just hoped for it! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif But now the man himself says that it's in the pipelines?

cheers/slush

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XyZspineZyX
07-22-2003, 02:56 PM
The Eastern Front was/is still one of the least explored aspects of the second world war. (at least from my perspective in the US). As a result, I have been encouraged to read/research it extensively over the last 6 months or so. It is still fascinating.



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XyZspineZyX
07-22-2003, 02:59 PM
Tired of eastern front? Its barely half finished as far as im concerned. There are many planes left to be flyable and added to it. Im not against a western scenario but that has been done 100's of times b4. Id rather go south to the sunny mediterrainean /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
07-22-2003, 03:24 PM
I'm certaintly bored of this very well redone theater. Different planesets, campaigns and theaters are a must for this game engine and of course all under the same game with our choice of which ones to fly or fly all planesets together online if we choose.


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XyZspineZyX
07-22-2003, 03:32 PM
EF theatre isn`t finished yet.There are tons of airplanes that should flyable to fill it up.


The problem is in the mission creation.Popl make same old missions.When did I last see a Me262A2 performing a bombing mission?I`ve never flown an online mission with Pe8 or other fine un-flyable aircraft.

Online there are 3-5 mission areas around big cities.They vary only in mission types - escort or destroy bombers.

In IL2 I hardly saw a similar mission to that which I flew ealier.


FMB takes lots of time to create missions,so "creators" don`t put much effort in them.


My point is:create good,various missions,you`ll never get bored with FB.


Currently when I get the urge to play a nice sortie online,a though comes into my mind.I suddenly recall all this zoooming and lags and the urge instantly goes away./i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-23-2003, 08:17 PM
Yeah im kinda of tired but i can live whit it. it would be fun with a battle of brittain scenario we already got a great hurricane and me 109 and ju 88 and he 111

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XyZspineZyX
07-23-2003, 10:43 PM
i would like to see this sim extend beyond the eastern front as i would like a choice.I would love the European/B o B theatre of ops,it has'nt been done to death as nothing touches F/B for class,the others are light years behind[at the moment].
All the others yes please,Africa,Med,Pacific etc,more choice PLEASE.

XyZspineZyX
07-23-2003, 10:47 PM
NO! JUST WANT MORE LOL,EYE CANDY,PATCH WILL DO THIS,HOPE ,YA THEY WILL,ILL WAIT,

XyZspineZyX
07-24-2003, 12:58 AM
actually got sick of the pacific much quicker .. still find the eastern front fascinating .. but more maps could only be better


however if oleg ever were to expand the maps (a huge job as you get into industrialised central europe) they should be added outwards from existng maps, enlarging the current area not suddenly adding an unconnected new theatre of operations

XyZspineZyX
07-24-2003, 01:16 AM
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-- My point is: create good,various missions,you`ll never get bored with FB.

Yeah, I am beginning to most love attacking/defending bridgeheads, you know where you got units on just one side of the river and the other side units are trying to push them back into the river. Stalingrad map has some fantastically wide rivers with lots of bridges that need bombing/defending.

Lots of flak -- but enough aircraft to dilute the killer flak. It works.

I heard The Patch crippled the flak again, now we must place 200 "realistic" flak units by hand again in FMB. Talk about a depressing task. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif