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Metatron_123
06-01-2009, 03:02 PM
This aircraft is great to fly, in my opinion superior to the Fiat CR42 or at least as good cause it turns rather tighter. However, visibility to the front is horrendous. A whole world of activity can exist behind the darned top wing. Now i'm an experienced virtual pilot, but this has given me trouble whenever i decide to fly the Gladiator, I just cant keep the enemy in sight long enough.

Oleg, Gladiator bar=wtf man pls fix. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

But seriously, how do you cope with this?

Metatron_123
06-01-2009, 03:02 PM
This aircraft is great to fly, in my opinion superior to the Fiat CR42 or at least as good cause it turns rather tighter. However, visibility to the front is horrendous. A whole world of activity can exist behind the darned top wing. Now i'm an experienced virtual pilot, but this has given me trouble whenever i decide to fly the Gladiator, I just cant keep the enemy in sight long enough.

Oleg, Gladiator bar=wtf man pls fix. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

But seriously, how do you cope with this?

Mr_Zooly
06-01-2009, 03:08 PM
wonder woman http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

skarden
06-01-2009, 03:14 PM
6DOF helps in a big way for me,also use its incredible maneuverability to roll and keep the bandit in sight.
I found that after I played a good Gladiator campaign I was alot better with it,Hope faith and chasity is an excellent one.
Good luck

Ba5tard5word
06-01-2009, 03:18 PM
Either a chainsaw or use an I-153 instead.

But yeah it is annoying and makes me never want to fly the biplanes even though they're a lot of fun to fly because they're so maneuverable.

WTE_Galway
06-01-2009, 06:18 PM
in tight dog fights you are usually close enough to keep them visible

however in the end you need to start picking up minor give away clues like control movements and develop your intuition, with enough practice you are going to start being able to predict what they are likely to do even when out of sight

Metatron_123
06-01-2009, 07:53 PM
Hm I think I found the answer to my problems: padlock! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

I know its kind of a cheat, but clarity of vision isnt as good as in real life, so im just using it for the Gladiator and thats it.

DeerHunterUK
06-02-2009, 04:04 AM
I've always thought the positioning of the pilot's head\view in the Gladrag is set too high in game. From the external frontal view, the wing looks higher than it does in the cockpit. I could be wrong but it just seems that way to me.
Or maybe the Swedish pilots have been buying cushions from Ikea and sitting on them. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

SYS64738
06-02-2009, 04:36 AM
Visibility, poor firepower, speed, trying to restart engine after negative G's. I just hate flying Gladiator.

FAF campaign starts with it, but I remember the joy when squadron changes to brewster.

larschance
06-02-2009, 08:49 AM
Totally agree sys64738. The struggle with the glad in FAF made me a better pilot in the Hurri and B239. It is a challenge but that is what makes this sim so good.
Keeping enemy close in turns if they are willing to risk it means you get to pepper them.Sadly not many types choose to play ball.
In real life I expect the glad pilots had neck pains from leaning sideways or forwards to see.

Sillius_Sodus
06-02-2009, 09:17 AM
Gladiator's a good ride, a good driver can be very dangerous.

WTE_Galway
06-02-2009, 05:51 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by larschance:
In real life I expect the glad pilots had neck pains from leaning sideways or forwards to see. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The gladiator is my second favorite ride in game, the favorite being the E4 Emil.


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In real life the Gladiator was dangerous to fly. It was seen as much harder to fly than the Spitfire. Literally dozens of RAF pilots died in Gladiators from spins, mid air collisions and landing incidents. Listed below are just some of the incidents from just two of the Gladiator squadron (3rd and 72nd RAF) prewar ... all this occurred before hostilities started ...



3rd Sqdn

K6150
19/03/37 From Manufacturer.
24/01/38 Abandoned in spin and crashed in front garden, Lyndhurst Road, Hove, Sussex; Sgt. E. H. Lomas safe.
Aircraft written off 26/02/38 (130.20 hrs).

K7898
03/04/37 From Manufacturer.
23/11/37 Crashed in mist; P/O H. E. Vickery safe.
Repaired and returned to operational service.
18/06/38 Transferred to 72 Sq.

K7896
03/04/37 From Manufacturer.
23/11/37 Flew into trees on hill in low cloud on weather test, Warlingham, Surrey.
No information on condition of pilot.
Aircraft written off 03/01/38 (99.05 hrs).

K6151
03/04/37 From Manufacturer.
21/04/38 To 73 Sq. on loan
11/07/38 Returned from 73 Sq.
17/01/39 Flew into house on high ground in bad visibility, Crowborough, Sussex,
Damaged beyond repair and pilot killed.
Aircraft written off 14/03/39 (22.15 hrs)

K7955
04/07/38 Received from 73 Sq.
20/02/39 Hit ground in cloud, Firle Beacon, south-east of Lewes, Sussex, and destroyed by fire.
Pilot killed.
Written off, hours unknown.

K7962
07/07/38 Received from 73 Sq.
18/04/39 Collided with K8023 in formation at night and crashed near Caterham, Surrey.
Pilot Killed.
Written Off 269.45 hrs

K8023
04/07/38 Received from 73 Sq.
18/04/39 Collided with K7962 in formation at night and crashed near Caterham, Surrey.
Pilot Killed.
Written Off 266.50 hrs



72nd Sqdn

K6130
22/02/37 From Manufacturer
11/05/39 Transferred to HMS Argus to form 112 Sq.
18/07/40 Hit a hill obscured by a cloud at Qaret el Naga. Aircraft destroyed. F/O Gray-Worcester killed.

K6133
22/02/37 From Manufacturer
23/07/37 Flew into ground out of cloud on ferry flight, Sealand Church Fenton, Barmby, Yorkshire , and destroyed by fire, pilot killed.
Written off (63.10 hours)

K6139
04/03/37 From Manufacturer
11/03/37 Engine cut and a/c force landed and overturned at Odiham.
Returned to Squadron after repair.
29/06/38 Collided with K6138 and crashed 2miles South of Selby, Yorkshire.
Pilot killed, Aircraft destroyed .

K7934
26/05/37 From Manufacturer.
07/02/38 Hit high tension cables on hill in mist and crashed 4 miles north of Brough.
Aircraft destroyed by fire and pilot killed.
Written off (107.20 hours)