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lowpostcount
05-18-2005, 09:53 AM
[Don't know if this has already been suggested -- also posted this same on simhq.com (lost original UBI account information]

It'd be nice to have a tailhook and strengthened landing gear for the YP-80 for carrier landings. Although not historic, given the inclusion of other fantasy (or near-so) aircraft, I think the game play aspects would justify it.

Also, include some external loadouts for the YP-80. I think that later production versions could carry 5-in rockets, droptanks, and bombs.

Perhaps some external loadouts for the Gotha jet as well ... I think that I've read that the capability to carry 2 x 1000kg was envisioned.

lowpostcount
05-18-2005, 09:53 AM
[Don't know if this has already been suggested -- also posted this same on simhq.com (lost original UBI account information]

It'd be nice to have a tailhook and strengthened landing gear for the YP-80 for carrier landings. Although not historic, given the inclusion of other fantasy (or near-so) aircraft, I think the game play aspects would justify it.

Also, include some external loadouts for the YP-80. I think that later production versions could carry 5-in rockets, droptanks, and bombs.

Perhaps some external loadouts for the Gotha jet as well ... I think that I've read that the capability to carry 2 x 1000kg was envisioned.

F16_Sulan
05-19-2005, 09:28 AM
You can land it on carriers if you make a bunch of carriers in a line :P

SeaNorris
05-19-2005, 09:36 AM
You can land the YP-80 on the Lexington/Saratoga with some ease, if you have a staedy hand then I find that this is well easier to land on the carrier than the B-25 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Aaron_GT
05-19-2005, 09:42 AM
How about sticking to planes that flew?

SeaNorris
05-19-2005, 10:03 AM
Huh? The Yp-80 did fly, not operationally in WWII, but all the same it flew. But I bet against the Idea myself http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

rookie66
05-19-2005, 10:26 AM
Take 2 carriers in line! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
We have tested it with Me-262. 4-5 carriers for take off, 2 for landing. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Should only work for non-moving carriers.
And they must overlap a little.

SeaNorris
05-19-2005, 10:28 AM
I can land the P-80 on a moving carrier at 70kmh

F16_Sulan
05-19-2005, 11:47 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rookie66:
Take 2 carriers in line! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
We have tested it with Me-262. 4-5 carriers for take off, 2 for landing. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Should only work for non-moving carriers.
And they must overlap a little. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It works with moving carriers too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Just choose carriers so that you have gradually lower decks further forward in the "carrier train" hehe, I tried it.

lowpostcount
05-19-2005, 02:53 PM
I can hit the deck okay, but I tend to lose the landing gear. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Aaron_GT
05-19-2005, 03:23 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Huh? The Yp-80 did fly, not operationally in WWII, but all the same it flew. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I was referring to a mythical carrier borne version.

ST__Spyke
05-19-2005, 06:45 PM
its a little too mythical if you ask me http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
carrier planes aernt just stronger landing gear, they have frames built around the task, and the plane built off it from there. the F-17 was practically totally re-designed to become an F-18 for carrier operation (F-17 lost to F-16 for airforce contract, so the US navy/marines picked up the F-17 to make the F-18) interesting idea though, but i usually have no trouble landing on a moving carrier. heck i can land almost anything else on them (if its moving)

Aaron_GT
05-20-2005, 03:22 PM
They did trial a couple of P-80s on carriers in 1945, but it never got beyond a trial. The UK tried jets too at the time. Jets still had relatively long spool up times which would have meant wave offs would have been dicey. That was less of an issue with piston engines of time which could respond more quickly to throttle inputs. It was the second generation jets that made it onto carriers when the technology improved a bit.

SkyChimp
05-20-2005, 07:34 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Aaron_GT:
It was the second generation jets that made it onto carriers when the technology improved a bit. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

VF-171 was flying FH-1 Phantoms, a first generation jet, from carriers in September 1948, after completing carrier qualifications the previous May. And yes, VF-171 was a fully equipped, fully operational shipboard squadron.

Aaron_GT
05-21-2005, 01:17 AM
Good point, I'd forgotten about that one. It was produced in very low numbers, though.