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XyZspineZyX
08-18-2003, 06:15 PM
this patch make FB about as fun as orignal il2 - it just FEELS better!

i had almost given up on FB.

except for a couple of glitches - all is good.

Is there anyone else real happy?


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XyZspineZyX
08-18-2003, 06:15 PM
this patch make FB about as fun as orignal il2 - it just FEELS better!

i had almost given up on FB.

except for a couple of glitches - all is good.

Is there anyone else real happy?


S!



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XyZspineZyX
08-18-2003, 06:52 PM
Yes very happy! Software is, well...software...nothing is perfect but this patched FB is pretty darn good! Besides. the next update will prob be in 6 months so it's useless to get your panties in a wad.....

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XyZspineZyX
08-18-2003, 07:03 PM
Yes the patch works fine: now i can choose excellent with 4xaa, 16x anisotrophic and only Leningrad gives me bad fps, or 2xaa, limited anisotrophic and only Leningrad gives me bad fps. The improvements in the patch on FM i don't know, but the effects are better and gameplay anyway smoother.

Happy is relative, but i must say i was waiting for this patch and it worked. I wanted to see elves (to much hobbit), i mean water.

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XyZspineZyX
08-18-2003, 07:52 PM
After the initial dissapointment that there where no new planes in it, it is pretty good.

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XyZspineZyX
08-18-2003, 08:04 PM
Well im having sound problems here, my sound gets lowered suddenly /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

XyZspineZyX
08-18-2003, 08:43 PM
Pretty impressed with it myself. Have a minor gripe with the track recordings going a bit haywire (my proud moment shooting down 2 109's in a head on had been lost forever) but otherwise it's improved the game a lot.

Then again, we're only paying (in Britain) 25 pounds for a game that to be honest, is superbly researched, playable and looks like a dream so there wasn't too much room for complaint anyway.

XyZspineZyX
08-18-2003, 08:48 PM
Skyhawk44 wrote:
- Well im having sound problems here, my sound gets
- lowered suddenly.

Pretty common I think. I actually went into my Creative Audio HQ control and set the EAX effects to No Effects (under the EAX special effects tab) and it seems to have done the trick.

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XyZspineZyX
08-18-2003, 09:00 PM
I love it. I would love it even more if they fixed the P-47 and the 262.
I'll NEVER beleive the 262 is accurate as currently modelled in FB.
But I do love this sim!
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XyZspineZyX
08-18-2003, 09:03 PM
Other than the lowering sound I love the patch!

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XyZspineZyX
08-18-2003, 09:07 PM
I am Happy. I don't feel so Guilty about flying I~16 anymore. Still a great little sport fighter. And it looks like a 1930s racer.

I never even tried sound in FB, and thus probably save a few fps, and so probably have accumulated several million extra frames by now. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

XyZspineZyX
08-18-2003, 09:41 PM
There was a new sound engine. I've noticed this too. But, overall, the sound works better.

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XyZspineZyX
08-18-2003, 09:43 PM
I'm happy as hell.

All classic tactics work now.

It was hard in IL-2, and impossible in FB 1.0 /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
08-18-2003, 09:56 PM
I kinda like it, but did you know there were some sound issues?...Anyone?

okay, okay...The sound WILL be fixed in the next patch...

For me the jury is still out, but I too love this sim.



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XyZspineZyX
08-18-2003, 09:58 PM
The game is much better than FB v1.0 without a doubt. Like everyone else said though, the sound.....

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adlabs6
08-18-2003, 11:21 PM
I think it's great. Of course the sound has some troubles, though. In fact, if another patch were released tommorow, I'd be reluctant to install it! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
08-19-2003, 12:47 AM
Unfortunately, I'm disappointed with this patch which in no way should be allowed to be an official release.

First, let me state that I fly Russian aircraft, primarily the Yak series and to a lesser degree the LA-5FN. These are flown primarily on "full real" servers. At first I too thought the patch was an improvement until I played using it a bit more. Now my opinion is that the patch is a step backward (again, from my perspective as a Yak/LA user). The aircraft engine power as well as the hitting punch and already-limited ammo load of the Yak-3 certainly seems diminished. (No reason to fix it if it isn't broken.) The LA-5FN has really seems to have been neutered as well from a power and maneuverability perspective. When engine power is reduced, nothing happens for about 10-15 seconds and then only very slowly. This is a glaring error and is well beneath what is expected of commercial grade software this late in the product's "beta" cycle (let's face it, the first official release was really beta). The FW-190 damage model really needs some work as well. This aircraft takes FAR too many hits to bring down.

On the plus side, the patch fixed the absolutely abysmal blackout model that existed in the first release of FB. Anyway, this patch is supposedly still a beta release and not the final official release...a good thing. As with all things beta, I'll reserve final judgement until the official patch gets released. I enjoy playing FB and hope that these matters can be addressed.

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XyZspineZyX
08-19-2003, 12:50 AM
GR142-Pipper if one aircraft made the "whole" patch a dissapointment you need to go out more and find a different hobby /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Try a new plane, or learn to fly better the la5fn /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

adlabs6
08-19-2003, 01:02 AM
GR142-Pipper wrote:
- When engine power is reduced, nothing
- happens for about 10-15 seconds and then only very
- slowly.

Yes, I noticed this right after installing the patch. I think it was the P39 that I was flying. It just felt like the engine did not want to drop RPM when I cut the throttle.

- The
- FW-190 damage model really needs some work as well.
- This aircraft takes FAR too many hits to bring down.

I've logged over 1000Km of flight so far in the V1.1b Fw190A's (my primary plane). I have only shot down a couple of 190's so far, but I didn't have a super hard time. What I have noticed is that the Fw190's wings are very, very sensitive to getting hit and affecting handling even from a few MG rounds. Even a few hits in the wing often introduce a dramatic roll to that damaged side. This roll worsens on pulling up elevator, and effectivly makes the plane useless for fighting/evading. Taking a look out at the wing reveals little or no visible damage marks. Who knows, I've just been more careful about getting in the line of fire.

All said though, I do feel the patch has improved a good number of things.

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XyZspineZyX
08-19-2003, 01:06 AM
For the most part yes, I still don't think the 50's have enough punch and they sound funny. The 190A's have a different sound that is not as "pockity, pockity" as it was before and it doesn't seem to idle as low. I really liked that slow idling recip sound. On the other hand the 110 seems to sound better.

Most of the flying characteristics seem better with some exceptions. Since I never flew any of the real planes I have no idea whether they are right or wrong.

I really haven't had the opportunity to check out all the changes fully. At least it didn't seem to cause any major problems, like blowing away missions or things like that !

XyZspineZyX
08-19-2003, 01:10 AM
I gotta say, Im liking the patch more. Except for a few things: Me 262 climb rate, flap horn with bf-109 series, sound, and obnoxious muzzle flash of the MK-108. Its great. The ground characteristics of the bf-109 are really cool. You gotta be careful on the ground now.

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XyZspineZyX
08-19-2003, 01:15 AM
I love the patch... Of course its not perfect but then I dont expect perfection when I buy any game.

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XyZspineZyX
08-19-2003, 01:17 AM
The patch is good, Very good. Yes the LA5 and Hurri is different but it`s not stopping me take down the bfs and FWS. It takes only a couple of hours retraining. There are a few sound issues, but if that gets sorted I`ll not quibble about machine intricacies.
Another plus is it seems every one`s going over to BLUE to fly bfs and FWs. Great, now I don`t always have to go AXIS to even up any more /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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08-19-2003, 01:29 AM
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XyZspineZyX
08-19-2003, 06:37 AM
Me to.

XyZspineZyX
08-19-2003, 06:48 AM
Chlywly:

Slow down a little and re-read my post. I wrote my comments strictly from the perspective of what I fly. So from a Yak/LA driver's point of view (strictly my own), yes I feel the patch is lacking. If your experience is different, fine. The purpose is to share one's point of view and listen to the constructive comments of others to improve the game.

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XyZspineZyX
08-19-2003, 08:42 AM
Hey, man!

Yeah I really dig it now - I had also sort of given up on it, but now I've started to play it and it's real fun getting to know it. Glitches? Sure, there's always glitches in every freakin' program, but I'm too busy flyin' so I can't find glitches right now!


dbuff wrote:
- this patch make FB about as fun as orignal il2 - it
- just FEELS better!
-
- i had almost given up on FB.
-
- except for a couple of glitches - all is good.
-
- Is there anyone else real happy?
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- S!
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- Non Solum Armis



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XyZspineZyX
08-19-2003, 08:44 AM
Well, ahem - that stuff actually happened to me yesterday.
I hope it's a one-timer, cause I've been flying with the new patch for a while now.

Skyhawk44 wrote:
- Well im having sound problems here, my sound gets
- lowered suddenly /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif
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XyZspineZyX
08-19-2003, 11:17 AM
count me in!

XyZspineZyX
08-19-2003, 11:28 AM
The patch has made this game great.

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XyZspineZyX
08-19-2003, 03:00 PM
pipper - i assume you are not a new user as name says.

i do agree that throttle issue is a problem - good catch.
did you report it? when i notice, i chop throttle and either it is be a sound issue or felt like plane was still getting power even at zero throttle.? weird.

sound is quirky fer sure .....but game is sooooo much better than unpatched.

i am much happy snappy.

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XyZspineZyX
08-19-2003, 10:51 PM
More smoke, better ammo damage, better fm accuraccy overall, more whingeing...........i kinda like it /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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