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DeSabellis
06-16-2011, 07:39 AM
*Warning- minor to major spoilers.

I looked to see if this had been posted before, but it does not to appear to have been.

During a few of the trailers for ACR, images will flash occasionally saying that the Animus is restarting the firmware. During this time, it will begin to say populating, followed by a dozen lines of code that look like the following:

source\17.anima.21032002.QmxhY2tlaWxscw==

The beginning part denotes that it is an Animus file from subject 17; the second part forms a date, in the case of the example above, that date would translate to March 21st, 2002. The last part is actually Base64 code that can be translated to English through the use of an on-line translator- this serves as a label for the memory. In our case, this code is actually a minor hint of what the memory can be about.

Using a screen shot of all the code listed (found here: http://images2.wikia.nocookie...._Animus_sections.png (http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110607205840/assassinscreed/images/7/7d/ACR_Desmond_Animus_sections.png)) as well as an on-line translator (It's box #6: http://home2.paulschou.net/tools/xlate/), I have translated all of those end bits of code.

Here is the list:

S.17 06102001 = I Remember
S.17 21032002 = Black Hills
S.17 16032002 = Wood Smoke
S.17 08212002 = Mother Sad
S.17 08212002 = Father Mad
S.17 22072002 = Nothing is True
S.17 22072002 = Everything Is Permitted
S.17 04022003 = Bored Of War Stories
S.17 30082003 = Pain Killers
S.17 23082003 = Faces In Stone
S.17 16082003 = Escape
S.17 23082003 = What Is This Place
S.17 16052003 = Chicago Girls
S.17 27082003 = Not Far Enough
S.17 14082004 = 12 To 6
S.17 11032004 = They Will Find Me
S.17 03032005 = Just A Cult?
S.17 16082005 = WHERE ARE YOU!
S.17 16082008 = So Much Noise
S.17 12062008 = CALL HOME!
S.17 16022009 = The Everything City
S.17 04022011 = Just Add Gin
S.17 17092011 = The JMZ
S.16 08082012 = I Am Not Alive
S.17 09082012 = Bad Weather
S.17 10082012 = Nine Years Alone
S.17 17092012 = Are You Desmond Miles?
S.17 19092012 = Bastards!

Edit: I had trouble with S.17 21032002; it kept coming up as Blackeills- I did get a bit tired of typing them in. Two of the dates give a great hint at where Desmond grew up. Black Hills is in South Dakota. Stone Faces most likely means Mt. Rushmore- which is in South Dakota. The farm is most likely in South Dakota- one of the larger and less dense States in the United States- perfect for a commune. It also explains why the commune is called a 'farm' since South Dakota is full of farm land.

ElDoucherino
06-16-2011, 08:12 AM
This has been adressed in a couple of threads before. My own speculation is that these are the names of the sequences or whatever they may be called within the Black Room.

Oh, November can't get here soon enough http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

ShaneO7K
06-16-2011, 08:37 AM
The JMZ is a subway station in Williamsburg, Brooklyn.

DeSabellis
06-16-2011, 09:27 AM
Oh- I didn't realize that they had already been translated. I did try to check at least. Sorry guys.

Either way, now that we are on the topic, the last two dates are of importance.

9/17/2012 and 9/19/2012 takes place during Brotherhood, not the first game during Desmond's capture. The first email Desmond receives from Lucy is dated 9/17/2012.

Steelers nati0n
06-16-2011, 10:48 AM
I read through the other thread. I don't think anyone pointed out that the last two take place during brotherhood.

kriegerdesgottes
06-16-2011, 10:56 AM
He says he's bored of war stories, pain killers, faces of stone. To me it sounds like he is tired of hearing about the war stories between his ancestors and templars and he wants to escape and I'm sure there are many statues like in monterigionni which are probably the stone faces. It just sounds like his life before he escaped the "farm".

DeSabellis
06-16-2011, 11:34 AM
Originally posted by aj0280:
I read through the other thread. I don't think anyone pointed out that the last two take place during brotherhood.

Well at least I did one thing right. 9/19/2012 is the date that Rebecca emails Lucy about Desmond screaming in his sleep... though she says it happened the night before, which would be 9/18/2012. I have a feeling that these last two dates are going to deal a lot with Lucy and possibly the motivations for that whole 'stabbing' thing. It's strange though- maybe Desmond saw things and repressed them? It really wouldn't make sense why he would remember something we didn't play.

The only reason I am saying that stone faces = Mt. Rushmore is because Black Hills is in South Dakota as well. I personally thought the 'farm' was going to be in New Mexico because of the 'desert commune' comment from AC1.

AMuppetMatt
06-16-2011, 12:02 PM
When viewing the other thread where they translated these someone said the last two dates were to do with the Templars catching him. Despite the fact I'm doing AS Level Critical Thinking (terrible, terrible subject http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif) a year early I assumed he was correct. That will teach me to not look at the date given. Yes, you are indeed right:

Are you Desmond Miles
and
Bastards!

Are two memories that occur within Brotherhood. So this means one of two things:
1. Desmond was dreaming about them and he is reliving these dreams. Within them are his recollections of the beginning of this whole ordeal when Abstergo found him. At which point we're going to be viewing memory within a memory things for these two missions with the vehicle for such a thing his dream. Basically Inception.

2. Things are not what they seem http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif (To quote Pink Floyd)
There have already been several threads on here about times and dates not adding up in AC. To summarise, AC1 ends Early September, we can assume using the Emails as evidence that it ends 9th/10th of September. We can then assume that Lucy rescues Desmond around the 12/13th September at the very latest. Travel to Safe House= 1 day. 2/3 days in safe house before the Templars find you, then 1/2 days on the road to get to Monteriggioni. I can't remember the date of the first Email in Monteriggioni, I think it was near the 22nd so I'll be kind and say the 20th.

So we have the 9th-20th September. That's 11 days
But even being as generous as possible with times (and I'm being REALLY generous here)6 days from once you escape Abstergo to setting up in Monteriggioni.

6 does not = 11.... which means that we're essentially missing a week of time simply lost (If I've got my Brotherhood dates wrong don't flame, I can't remember exactly and I'm simply repeating the theory http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif )

So maybe there's another twist somehow and these last two memories reveal it. After all, we know about the DNA strand/footsteps in Monteriggioni that only appear after you've entered the animus for the first time and dissapear after you exist it for the last time. The theory states that you never actually leave the animus... but it's convuluted and sucky if you wake up to it all just being some sort of dream. I'm not sure, but that's sort of the theory.

Either way, these last two memories will be the most interesting to me seeing as they take place IN Brotherhood. What are they about... we can assume the Templars but why is the date during the time with the Assassins?
It shall be VERY interesting to see
Good spot to see that it wasn't as first thought reliving the capture of Desmond plain and simple. This is going to be fun... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

RzaRecta357
06-16-2011, 12:07 PM
Originally posted by AMuppetMatt:
When viewing the other thread where they translated these someone said the last two dates were to do with the Templars catching him. Despite the fact I'm doing AS Level Critical Thinking (terrible, terrible subject http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif) a year early I assumed he was correct. That will teach me to not look at the date given. Yes, you are indeed right:

Are you Desmond Miles
and
Bastards!

Are two memories that occur within Brotherhood. So this means one of two things:
1. Desmond was dreaming about them and he is reliving these dreams. Within them are his recollections of the beginning of this whole ordeal when Abstergo found him. At which point we're going to be viewing memory within a memory things for these two missions with the vehicle for such a thing his dream. Basically Inception.

2. Things are not what they seem http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif (To quote Pink Floyd)
There have already been several threads on here about times and dates not adding up in AC. To summarise, AC1 ends Early September, we can assume using the Emails as evidence that it ends 9th/10th of September. We can then assume that Lucy rescues Desmond around the 12/13th September at the very latest. Travel to Safe House= 1 day. 2/3 days in safe house before the Templars find you, then 1/2 days on the road to get to Monteriggioni. I can't remember the date of the first Email in Monteriggioni, I think it was near the 22nd so I'll be kind and say the 20th.

So we have the 9th-20th September. That's 11 days
But even being as generous as possible with times (and I'm being REALLY generous here)6 days from once you escape Abstergo to setting up in Monteriggioni.

6 does not = 11.... which means that we're essentially missing a week of time simply lost (If I've got my Brotherhood dates wrong don't flame, I can't remember exactly and I'm simply repeating the theory http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif )

So maybe there's another twist somehow and these last two memories reveal it. After all, we know about the DNA strand/footsteps in Monteriggioni that only appear after you've entered the animus for the first time and dissapear after you exist it for the last time. The theory states that you never actually leave the animus... but it's convuluted and sucky if you wake up to it all just being some sort of dream. I'm not sure, but that's sort of the theory.

Either way, these last two memories will be the most interesting to me seeing as they take place IN Brotherhood. What are they about... we can assume the Templars but why is the date during the time with the Assassins?
It shall be VERY interesting to see
Good spot to see that it wasn't as first thought reliving the capture of Desmond plain and simple. This is going to be fun... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I'm out the door so maybe I didn't read it right as I just lightly skimmed it so sorry if i'm wrong.

But Bastards! Is from AC1. I'm assuming the Are you Desmond Miles is from BEFORE AC1. Not Brotherhood.

InfectedNation
06-16-2011, 12:34 PM
Originally posted by AMuppetMatt:
When viewing the other thread where they translated these someone said the last two dates were to do with the Templars catching him. Despite the fact I'm doing AS Level Critical Thinking (terrible, terrible subject http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif) a year early I assumed he was correct. That will teach me to not look at the date given. Yes, you are indeed right:

Are you Desmond Miles
and
Bastards!

Are two memories that occur within Brotherhood. So this means one of two things:
1. Desmond was dreaming about them and he is reliving these dreams. Within them are his recollections of the beginning of this whole ordeal when Abstergo found him. At which point we're going to be viewing memory within a memory things for these two missions with the vehicle for such a thing his dream. Basically Inception.

2. Things are not what they seem http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif (To quote Pink Floyd)
There have already been several threads on here about times and dates not adding up in AC. To summarise, AC1 ends Early September, we can assume using the Emails as evidence that it ends 9th/10th of September. We can then assume that Lucy rescues Desmond around the 12/13th September at the very latest. Travel to Safe House= 1 day. 2/3 days in safe house before the Templars find you, then 1/2 days on the road to get to Monteriggioni. I can't remember the date of the first Email in Monteriggioni, I think it was near the 22nd so I'll be kind and say the 20th.

So we have the 9th-20th September. That's 11 days
But even being as generous as possible with times (and I'm being REALLY generous here)6 days from once you escape Abstergo to setting up in Monteriggioni.

6 does not = 11.... which means that we're essentially missing a week of time simply lost (If I've got my Brotherhood dates wrong don't flame, I can't remember exactly and I'm simply repeating the theory http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif )

So maybe there's another twist somehow and these last two memories reveal it. After all, we know about the DNA strand/footsteps in Monteriggioni that only appear after you've entered the animus for the first time and dissapear after you exist it for the last time. The theory states that you never actually leave the animus... but it's convuluted and sucky if you wake up to it all just being some sort of dream. I'm not sure, but that's sort of the theory.

Either way, these last two memories will be the most interesting to me seeing as they take place IN Brotherhood. What are they about... we can assume the Templars but why is the date during the time with the Assassins?
It shall be VERY interesting to see
Good spot to see that it wasn't as first thought reliving the capture of Desmond plain and simple. This is going to be fun... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I like your idea, but I have a feeling that the dates probably do add up.. for example: I'm pretty sure the ending of AC1 and the beginning of AC2 occur on the same day... Lucy was only gone for a few hours at the most.

roostersrule2
06-16-2011, 03:16 PM
Originally posted by AMuppetMatt:
When viewing the other thread where they translated these someone said the last two dates were to do with the Templars catching him. Despite the fact I'm doing AS Level Critical Thinking (terrible, terrible subject http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif) a year early I assumed he was correct. That will teach me to not look at the date given. Yes, you are indeed right:

Are you Desmond Miles
and
Bastards!

Are two memories that occur within Brotherhood.
So this means one of two things:
1. Desmond was dreaming about them and he is reliving these dreams. Within them are his recollections of the beginning of this whole ordeal when Abstergo found him. At which point we're going to be viewing memory within a memory things for these two missions with the vehicle for such a thing his dream. Basically Inception.

2. Things are not what they seem http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif (To quote Pink Floyd)
There have already been several threads on here about times and dates not adding up in AC. To summarise, AC1 ends Early September, we can
assume using the Emails as evidence that it ends 9th/10th of September. We can then assume that Lucy rescues Desmond around the 12/13th September at the very latest. Travel to Safe House= 1 day. 2/3 days in safe house before the Templars find you, then 1/2 days on the road to get to Monteriggioni. I can't remember the date
of the first Email in Monteriggioni, I think it was near the 22nd so I'll be kind and say the 20th.

So we have the 9th-20th September. That's 11 days
But even being as generous as possible with times (and I'm being REALLY generous here)6 days from once you escape Abstergo to setting up in
Montergionni

6 does not = 11.... which means that we're essentially missing a week of time simply lost (If I've got my Brotherhood dates wrong don't flame, I can't remember exactly and I'm simply repeating the theory http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif )

So maybe there's another twist somehow and these last two memories reveal it. After all, we know about the DNA strand/footsteps in Monteriggioni that only appear after you've entered the animus for the first time and dissapear after you exist
it for the last time. The theory states that you never actually leave the animus... but it's convuluted and sucky if you wake up to it all just being some sort of dream. I'm not sure, but that's sort of the theory.

Either way, these last two memories will be the
most interesting to me seeing as they take place IN Brotherhood. What are they about... we can assume the Templars but why is the date during the time with the Assassins?
It shall be VERY interesting to see
Good spot to see that it wasn't as first thought
reliving the capture of Desmond plain and simple. This is going to be fun... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


That could make sense as in one email I think rebecca says to Lucy that Desmond was screaming in his sleep