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Wildnoob
01-31-2010, 10:48 AM
Practically they don't exist now. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

X32Wright
01-31-2010, 11:21 AM
Yeah even for COOPS no PURE 409m exists anymore just 'MOD FLAVOR of the month'

robtek1957
01-31-2010, 11:29 AM
by.sturmovik.de:21004

Full Real DCG Campaigns and Mini Wars

Erkki_M
01-31-2010, 12:50 PM
http://war.by-airforce.com/

http://www.adw.alkar.net/en/

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X32Wright
01-31-2010, 12:52 PM
by.sturmovik.de:21004

this server RUNS MODS http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Gadje
01-31-2010, 01:03 PM
CZ AH dedicated ? havent been on it for a while but was just 4.09

skarden
01-31-2010, 01:14 PM
Ah spits vs 109s and zekes v wildcats,both excellent servers.
And the RAF74's new historical server,also looks excellent.

RSS-Martin
01-31-2010, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by skarden:
Ah spits vs 109s and zekes v wildcats,both excellent servers.
And the RAF74's new historical server,also looks excellent.
Only spits vs 109s classic is a 4.09m server, the other two use UP 2.0 which have porked the game a fair bit!

skarden
01-31-2010, 01:42 PM
Ah he means no mods,fair enough then my bad,Although we'll have to agree to disagree about UP 2.0,Zuti's MDS makes for excellent online missions.

Frankthetank36
01-31-2010, 03:56 PM
I don't see what the problems are with mods, they let you fly AI planes and that alone makes things much more interesting.

Romanator21
01-31-2010, 04:33 PM
They are also full of bugs and compatibility issues and that alone makes things much less interesting.

na85
01-31-2010, 07:04 PM
Originally posted by Romanator21:
They are also full of bugs and compatibility issues and that alone makes things much less interesting.

Agree 110%

rnzoli
01-31-2010, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by X32Wright:
Yeah even for COOPS no PURE 409m exists anymore just 'MOD FLAVOR of the month'
This weekend I caught a glimpse of Aviar running official (pure, I guess) 4.09 co-op and luckily Na_Kane_Pono is back online after engine troubles.

X32Wright
01-31-2010, 08:25 PM
Yes Aviar does but Aviar doesnt like me to fly his COOPS anymore so I stopped flying there.

Jumoschwanz
01-31-2010, 09:20 PM
I learned first hand, Aviar generally does not have a problem with anyone as long as they fly with their mouth closed and do their talking with their guns.

TheCrux
01-31-2010, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by RSS-Martin:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by skarden:
Ah spits vs 109s and zekes v wildcats,both excellent servers.
And the RAF74's new historical server,also looks excellent.
Only spits vs 109s classic is a 4.09m server, the other two use UP 2.0 which have porked the game a fair bit! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Funny thing is at "Zekes" they claimed that after they went UI 1.1 they had a drop-off in players, so they set out to remedy this by going mods-optional 4.09m. Didn't work out, so now it's mods mandatory with the 2.0 Ultrapack...a bigger and even more complicated install ( and somewhat buggy I understand )

Used to be the best server before one had to be a computer whiz to keep up.

Romanator21
01-31-2010, 10:47 PM
I just noticed that Skies of Valor is running 4.09 clean. War Clouds server is hosting full real (except for icons, speed bar, and minimap path). =gRiJ= Dedicado is running the same setup, but it's just a dogfight server without mission objectives.

I'll be hosting some DCG campaigns in FR coops. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Erkki_M
01-31-2010, 10:54 PM
Romanator, dont bother with your own FR coops and DCG campaigns, come fly AFW with us(16-20 of GMT during weeks, 16-24 at weekends). We play for the Axis side and usually have at least 4 guys in the voice comms in 7 vs 7 to 12 vs 12 missions, currently in Kursk 43. PM me if you're interested(perhaps with Wright and other squad matted? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif ) and I'll page you the TS info.

Romanator21
02-01-2010, 12:23 AM
Cool. I just get so depressed with the drudgery DF maps, and with the bland offline campaigns. I couldn't wait for a good mission so I decided to do it myself. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I just hosted my first one, Lvov 1941. It was lots of fun. DCG is a wonderful program and makes much more realistic scenarios. With a human element and Coop style, it's just awesome. I can't believe I didn't try it sooner.

I never do see the AFW anymore in the HL either though, and I really wanted to do a nice campaign. If I do see it, I'll definitely hop in, Thanks!

RSS-Martin
02-01-2010, 02:21 AM
Originally posted by Frankthetank36:
I don't see what the problems are with mods, they let you fly AI planes and that alone makes things much more interesting.
You read that wrong, I have nothing against mods, only some add things but donīt pork other things, and some add and pork other things. To say it openly UI although a bummer on loading time was better as it did not gimp up the bombs and the bomber gunners. UP2.0 short loading time, but gunners now hardly respond to enemy attacks, they just sit and watch. Bombs although set with a delay of 3sec can explode on impact making low level attacks a game of Russian ruolette. For me that was a reason to dump UP2.0 and to go back to standard 4.09m

Erkki_M
02-01-2010, 02:41 AM
Originally posted by Romanator21:
Cool. I just get so depressed with the drudgery DF maps, and with the bland offline campaigns. I couldn't wait for a good mission so I decided to do it myself. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I just hosted my first one, Lvov 1941. It was lots of fun. DCG is a wonderful program and makes much more realistic scenarios. With a human element and Coop style, it's just awesome. I can't believe I didn't try it sooner.

I never do see the AFW anymore in the HL either though, and I really wanted to do a nice campaign. If I do see it, I'll definitely hop in, Thanks!

In HL, click on the general room text in the middle, right nexto to the clock... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

To name some differences to the DCG, in AFW you can rescue shot-down pilots(not AI though), reconnassaince(fighter and bomber), fly supply missions, escort naval supply convoys(and attack them http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif) etc and attack/protect tanks and defensive bases instead of just bombing and protecting stationary stuff behind the lines.

X32Wright
02-01-2010, 04:06 AM
@Jumo:

I agree and FYI, I was indeed speaking with my guns because at times I was the only blue left with ammo and fuel and would be left to fight all the reds. This happened several times that in the end Aviar started closing the COOP when I am left alone flying high as the lone BLUE. I have ntrks of these http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Jumoschwanz
02-01-2010, 06:01 AM
There is Spits_vs_109s full real non-mod server that is 4.09m.

If you are willing to put up with either limited or friendly-only icons then there are a lot more options.

I am not a fan of icons at all, they are not necessary if you WANT to fly without them and simply practice flying that way.

CZ_AH_Dedicated is a great 4.09m server with two-hour long rotating maps that have objectives. It does have some sort of limited icons though.

WarClouds has a server that you can run straight 4.09m on most maps. It does allow mods though. I don't mind flying my straight 4.09M against guys that have mods, it does not put you at any disadvantage that matters.

Na_Kane_Pono is a great server. It is like an online war, it is a Coop style, you have to wait for a map to start to join. What you accomplish in one map affects the next maps layout and planeset! I flew it quite a bit for a while but because it was based in Hawaii I did not have a good ping on it. Today I see it is showing a good ping, so maybe they upgraded it or the internet has a better path to it for me.

The word "realistic" can mean more than one thing when talking about this sim.

It can simply mean the server settings give the most realistic FLYING experience, or it can mean the server gives a more accurate representation of WWII combat.

Na_kane_pono would be hard to beat as far as the WWII combat experience goes on a 24/7 available Hyperlobby server.

And as far as flying goes, the most realistic to me would be any server that is set to "difficult" or full-switch.

With these two differences in mind, what some say about the word will not apply to everyone!

So if you want to fly full-switch, do it where and when you want and have fun. You have my respect no matter where you do it!

I have had a total blast on the old YAMAL server which had fast action with bases often close together. It's rotations was too fast though, at 45 minutes it did not give you much time to win the map, you had to really be good with those bombs etc.!

In 2002-2003 I had a lot of fun on Aviar's dogfight server. He used to run it full switch! No outside views like he uses now in his coops.

In the original IL2 you could grab the files from any server you flew on in your IL2 "cache", open them up in your Full Mission Biulder and host or play with them yourself.

I saved Aviar's dogfight map from back then and I can host it some night. I opened it up last night and left it running, full-switch and 4.09m all night but I don't think anyone saw it......

Dgirth
02-01-2010, 10:58 AM
JFC has just put up a 409 no mods server

=JFC=Public.

The settings are full real.
We only have 3 maps up at the moment but more will be added by the end of the week. The server is running 24/7.

The maps will be a mixture of all the ww2 theaters.

Any problems you come across let me know. its our first time doing this :P

thefruitbat
02-01-2010, 11:22 AM
As Jumoschwanz rightly calls it, its full switch, not full real http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Gadje
02-01-2010, 06:53 PM
....and Oleg the writer calls it 'Realistic' in his settings. So its called full real when you leave them as the realistic setting gives. Simple really and nothing to get yer knickers in a twist abouthttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

thefruitbat
02-02-2010, 03:23 AM
i find it very amusing that offline, flying full 'realistic' as you chairbourne commandos like to call it, includes 'no instant sucsess', which essentially turns it into a game with levels, which you must complete before you can move on, and therefore is the most unrealistic setting that there could be, lol http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

rnzoli
02-02-2010, 03:49 AM
Originally posted by thefruitbat:
therefore is the most unrealistic setting that there could be, lol http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
The "most"?!?! Gosh, how would you consider the existence of the "Refly" button then? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

At least, the "no instant success" switch in the "Realistic" difficulty setting is consistent with making the game/sim more difficult to play, and forcing the player to behave more like the real pilots, with objectives in mind. And actually, in real life some missions had to be repeated if the squadron failed to meet the mission objectives http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

thefruitbat
02-02-2010, 03:57 AM
ok not the most, but its right up there http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

In real life you are right, some missions did have to repeated if the squadron failed to meet its objectives, it just didn't happen to be exactly the same mission flown in a time warp.

Many missions flown in WWII were complete failures to http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

If you want to be ultra realistic, then on about 80% of your missions, you will just fly along your waypoints, and head home, without ever coming in contact with the enemy....

Jumoschwanz
02-02-2010, 06:13 AM
I have hours of tracks where I am flying around on dogfight servers and not running into any action if anyone wants me to send them to them in an email attachment......http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

robtek1957
02-02-2010, 09:49 AM
Originally posted by X32Wright:
by.sturmovik.de:21004

this server RUNS MODS http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

That! my dear friend is plain WRONG!
by.sturmovik,de:21000 is running UP2.0
by.sturmovik.de:21004 is running vanilla 4.09!!!

TheCrux
02-02-2010, 11:26 AM
Originally posted by Dgirth:
JFC has just put up a 409 no mods server

=JFC=Public.

The settings are full real.
We only have 3 maps up at the moment but more will be added by the end of the week. The server is running 24/7.

The maps will be a mixture of all the ww2 theaters.

Any problems you come across let me know. its our first time doing this :P

I browsed and found it on Hyperlobby but note that it does allow "wonder woman" view, which I cannot abide with. Other than that, I can live with the settings. Glad to see another much needed unmodded 4.09m server though, and will be trying it out in coming weeks.

Romanator21
02-02-2010, 11:27 AM
No instant Success Not On is basically a given. "Full real" is interchangeable with "Full switch" which basically means every switch on but that one. It should have never been implemented in the game http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif

Is DCG online campaign affected by whether or not I select no instant success? I may need to double-check my difficulty settings next time. I hope I won't have to run that last mission again.