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major_setback
02-23-2007, 04:46 AM
I love the work done on these models so I thought I'd share.

Here are some nice renders of a kingfisher (I think). They were from the site linked below,
but the best pictures have been removed now, so I thought I'd post them here.
You can see the Kingfisher model briefly in one of the CGI movies on one of the links below.
I've also uploaded some of the other nice models that used to be on the site.

http://www.cee-gee.net/Movies/Movies.htm

http://www.cee-gee.net/

Models:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/clouds.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/clouds2.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/clouds3.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/ddwp1576.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/gathering.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/P51_CK.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/P51_CK2.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/trambulance.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/trtruck5.jpg

major_setback
02-23-2007, 04:55 AM
Kingfisher pictures? I'm not too good with these floatplanes,
some look like the Kingfisher and others seem like they might have a different tail (almost like a Helldiver).
Can anyone tell me which plane is which? Or are they all Kingfishers? Is the Kingfisher derived from the Helldiver?:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/13920G.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/BB35-22.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/k04562.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/os2_kingfisher_1942.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/os2u_in20water_1943.jpg

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/5/5e/OS23U_recovered_by_USS_Baltimore.jpg

Tater-SW-
02-23-2007, 08:10 AM
An OS2U was beig worked on for PF at one time---saw screens of it with and without floats, too.

tater

major_setback
02-23-2007, 09:16 AM
Profile:

http://web.quick.cz/kpmnbk/pearlharbor/index_soubory/os2u.jpg

FA_Razor
02-23-2007, 09:33 AM
One funny thing though...

...why put that much effort into the model, then add that cruddy baseball (stitches WAY too big, and too few of them).

major_setback
02-23-2007, 09:38 AM
Originally posted by FA_Razor:
One funny thing though...

...why put that much effort into the model, then add that cruddy baseball (stitches WAY too big, and too few of them).

I think maybe he's not American. That about the baseball was mentioned on another site when the picture was dicussed with one of the peoplebehind the Code Guardian project.

You may have to register (free) to see the thread, but it's well worth doing so, there are very mainy excellent and large pictures on the site ((usually click to enlarge). Mainly CG pictures but some 2D artwork too:

Site/Thread:
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=55982



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major_setback
02-23-2007, 10:00 AM
Kingfisher gunner:
http://espanol.geocities.com/aviacuba/Kingfis2.jpg

Ready for launching:
http://www.americanheritage.com/assets/images/articles/magazine/it/2006/4/2006_4_32-33.jpg

Go to Airliners.net and search for Kingfisher if these don't show:

http://eu.airliners.net/photos/photos/2/1/3/1162312.jpg



http://eu.airliners.net/photos/photos/4/7/7/0742774.jpg

http://eu.airliners.net/photos/photos/2/5/5/0210552.jpg

http://eu.airliners.net/photos/photos/3/5/5/0210553.jpg

ElAurens
02-23-2007, 10:26 PM
Other than being designed and built by Curtiss, the Kingfisher has nothing in common with the Helldiver.

The Kingfisher was meant to be the replacement for the Curtiss SOC Seagull biplane.

http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/g00001/g05885.jpg

However, many crews preferred the SOC's shorter landing and takeoff run, and rough sea handling to the Kingfisher's and the Kingfisher never really replaced the SOC, which continued in service to the end of the war.

berg417448
02-24-2007, 12:56 PM
Originally posted by ElAurens:
Other than being designed and built by Curtiss, the Kingfisher has nothing in common with the Helldiver.

The OS2U Kingfisher was built by Vought not Curtiss.
The "U" designator gives this away since it is the identifier for Vought in the USN designation system.

bentbluewings
02-25-2007, 05:37 PM
Berg is right. The USN identifiers changed sometime in the 50s I believe, but until then they were broken down as follows


Ex.
F4U-1D
F=fighter (others B=bomber, T=torpedo, S=scout, O=observation, P=Patrol)
4=fourth design by particular manufacturer
U=Vought Aircraft
-1=first derivative of the particular design
D=5th modification of basic design derivative

So, when you are talking about an F4, you are actually talking about a Phantom not a Corsair or Wildcat (lol this irritates me to be honest) because F4Us, and F4Fs were in the inventory at the same time

Other Manufacturer codes included
A=Brewster (F2A Buffalo, F3A-1 Corsair=Contract built Vought F4U)
C=Curtis (SB2C-1C Helldiver)
D=Douglas (SBD-5 Dauntless, TBD-1 Devastator)
F=Grumman (F6F-3 Hellcat, F4F-4 Wildcat)
G=Goodyear (FG-1D Corsair=Contract built Vought F4U)
M=Eastern Aircraft Division [of General Motors] (FM-2 Wildcat=Contract built Grumman F4F, TBM-3 Avenger=Contract built Grumman TBF Avenger)
U=Vought [or Chance Vought during WW2] (OS2U Kingfisher, F4U-1 Corsair)
V=Vultee (PV-2 ....fuzzy here I believe Ventura)
Y=Consolidated (PBY-5A Catalina)

ElAurens
02-26-2007, 11:03 AM
Oops.

But I still stand by the fact that crews generally preferred the Seagull.

I'd love to be able to fly either.

Shakthamac
02-26-2007, 12:41 PM
those are some really nice looking renders, although im surprised that no one has pointed out the modeling flaws in the carrier.

anyhoo

Tater-SW-
02-26-2007, 01:27 PM
Yeah, the carrier is pretty funny looking. Tiny, too.

heywooood
02-26-2007, 07:24 PM
Seagull is my favorite seaplane too, El

Kingfisher pics look great. BoB quality (easy heywooood, no one said SoW: Red Sun Rising yet)

AG51_Razor
02-27-2007, 02:02 PM
I don't know about the CV in drydock being too small, but a couple of this definitely do stick out for me. One is the Viet Nam era PCF Swift boat look alike in the lower left of the picture, and the second is the huricane bows with the catapult over runs sticking out in front. This without the angled deck. Kind of funky, but beautiful artwork nonetheless.

As for the Vought Kingfisher, take a close look at the picture of the cockpit (looking from the headrest forward) and all of the pictures of the plane itself - the tail in particular. Notice the strong family resemblence to the Hawg? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

For some odd reason, if you go back and look at all the aircraft from any one manufacturer, you're more than likely going to see a strong family resemblence amongst all of them in the tail.

Bentbluewings, don't forget the F4B-4 or the F4D Skyray! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

tools4foolsA
03-06-2007, 09:17 AM
Dunno about the size of the carrier but looking at the bow it looks like a Forrestal class carrier (or Entreprise of '61) to me, have no pics of any carrier of WWII with this kind of bow.

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LEXX_Luthor
03-06-2007, 11:48 AM
OS2U-2 Zvenyo or "Stack," offering over 4,000hp ...

Vought pictures ~ http://www.vought.com/heritage/photo/html/pmono.html
http://www.vought.com/heritage/photo/assets/images/db_images/db_2244_16.jpg

ytareh
03-06-2007, 12:22 PM
Beautiful renders...Was reading today that a Kingfisher shot down a Zero in WW2 in a 'dogfight' with its single 0.303 forward firing mg.....

VF-17_Jolly
04-19-2007, 12:08 PM
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/gathering.jpg

Post 1947 USAF not USAAF ?

major_setback
04-19-2007, 04:29 PM
More. From this good photo site:

http://www.bluejacket.com/usn-usmc_avi_image_vintage_g-z.html


http://www.bluejacket.com/usn/images/ac/os2n-1_kingfisher_mar1944.jpg

http://www.bluejacket.com/usn/images/ac/os2n_vcs17_cl-65_pasadena.jpg

major_setback
04-20-2007, 10:17 AM
Here are even more pics from another good site.
I think this is the Seagull:

http://www.seahawksquadron.org/GalleryFleet.htm

http://www.seahawksquadron.org/images/Member%20Gallery/Bell_Deep_Six_1.jpg

http://www.seahawksquadron.org/images/Member%20Gallery/SOC_Seagull_Recovery_on_CA.jpg

http://www.seahawksquadron.org/images/Member%20Gallery/SOC_Seagull_1943_2.jpg


http://www.seahawksquadron.org/images/Member%20Gallery/SOC%20Seagull_1939.jpg

...and this one of a fishing trip http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif, it's captioned "Bill just BARELY made this waveoff...."

http://www.seahawksquadron.org/images/Member%20Gallery/Boushee_Looked_Good_Going_By_Me_10_Nov_1953_USS_Bl ock_Island_CVE-106.jpg

TC_Stele
04-20-2007, 12:40 PM
Anyone know the purpose of that scope?

IV_JG51_Razor
04-23-2007, 01:01 AM
It's there mainly to make an impression on the pilot who neglects to sinch his shoulder harness down real tight before a water landing. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

badaboom.1
04-28-2007, 01:39 PM
I found this great short 1/2 CGI movie at Youtube
A Lonely Sky (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc_6O6HPAZk)

bentbluewings
04-28-2007, 04:10 PM
Looking at the carrier scene again, it struck me that it was intended to be from the early 1950s. That is indeed a "long hull" Essex class carrier judging from the flight deck overhang on the port side, and the lower squarish shape of the hull. I think the rendering implies that it is being updated to the SBC-27 standard. The Bow has already been enclosed hurricane fashion, and the ww2 gun sponsons on the port side have been removed in preparation for the new hull form and addition of the angled portion of the flight deck. Another possibility is IIRC one Essex CV never had the angled deck installed, but did have the hurricane bow enclosure, but I havn't looked at my copy of "Essex Class" for some time...it's in storage.

major_setback
04-29-2007, 09:04 AM
Originally posted by badaboom.1:
I found this great short 1/2 CGI movie at Youtube
A Lonely Sky (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc_6O6HPAZk)

Thanks. I tried downloading the movie from another site but it didn't work. Now I can watch it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

badaboom.1
04-29-2007, 05:01 PM
You're Welcome Major http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gifI had the same problem myself.
I don't know how many of you are familiar with Touchy's work,if not check these out,exspecialy 1942 and 1945 both downloadable,absoulutly fantastic CGI
Touchy (http://www.k4.dion.ne.jp/%7Esuppon/)