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Breeze147
02-27-2007, 01:06 PM
I honestly don't know why this cannot be corrected. The PTO is horrible for lousy AI. I cannot keep up with a wounded Betty in a Hurricane or a Tomahawk. Of course, even if I could, one of the sniper gunners would take my engine out with one shot. The Japanese fighters have speed and maneuvers I have only seen at air shows. Granted, they flick like a Bic if you get a shot into their fuel tanks, but that is usually dumb luck.

And what is with the constantly repeating DGEN missions in the PTO? Do I have to completely abandon the DGEN and go totally to 3rd party campaigns?

JtD
02-27-2007, 01:34 PM
I started as Dgen campaign in the PTO once. It was a pain. I stopped playing it when my flight of 8 had all AI planes run out of fuel, same for the 8 bombers I was escorting and the 8 interceptors the enemy send up. I was the only one to make it back to base. All others were lost, according to the logbook. Don't play DGen PTO.

MEGILE
02-27-2007, 01:36 PM
Originally posted by JtD:
I started as Dgen campaign in the PTO once. It was a pain. I stopped playing it when my flight of 8 had all AI planes run out of fuel, same for the 8 bombers I was escorting and the 8 interceptors the enemy send up. I was the only one to make it back to base. All others were lost, according to the logbook. Don't play DGen PTO.

Lmao

The unluckiest day in history?

Feathered_IV
02-27-2007, 03:59 PM
The Hurricane is a flying brown paper bag. It doesn't suprise me that it can't catch anything with ease.

Scharnhorst1943
02-27-2007, 04:39 PM
Try DCG. It is WAY better than DGEN.

Here is the download link:
Dynamic Campaign Generator (http://www.lowengrin.com/download.php?view.111)

Also, view this thread, reply here, or PM me if you have further questions on getting it started:
Setting up DCG (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/8621065625?r=1041014725#1041014725)

At least try it out. If you do not like it you can easily go back to DGEN. I am telling you, though...you won't go back.

MarkSynthesis
02-27-2007, 04:54 PM
I'd use it if it weren't for bothersome compatibility issues. Stock DGen for me, until those are worked out.

stalkervision
02-27-2007, 05:45 PM
Japanese Betty bomber gunners were known for being crack shots. Only the best japenese air to air gunners were allowed in Bettys.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Scharnhorst1943
02-27-2007, 08:49 PM
Originally posted by MarkSynthesis:
I'd use it if it weren't for bothersome compatibility issues. Stock DGen for me, until those are worked out.

Uh ... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif What compatibility issues? I have been Using DCG for a couple years now, and I never had any compatibility issues.

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Breeze147
02-28-2007, 06:31 AM
Originally posted by Feathered_IV:
The Hurricane is a flying brown paper bag. It doesn't suprise me that it can't catch anything with ease.

Yeah, but the AI Hurricanes have no problem climbing 1000 feet per second at 475 km/h.

Here's another scenario that cracks me up: 7 AI Friendlies chasing 1 enemy fighter, who is also trailing smoke and who is also just flying around in a huge cirlce. Hmm, perhaps 2 or 3 friendly could just peel off and cut the circle in half? Never gonna happen! Meanwhile, the bombers that the flight is supposed to be escorting, are getting their azzes handed to them by another group of enemy fighters.

Also, the wonderful AI wingman, who I tell to Cover Me, gets bored of all of this war stuff in the middle of a dogfight and just flies away, leaving me to tangle with 2 IJN fighters who are doing 500 KM/H barrell rolls and loops all over the frikeing Pacific Ocean. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Hawgdog
02-28-2007, 06:38 AM
Originally posted by Feathered_IV:
The Hurricane is a flying brown paper bag.

Yes, and we all know what is inside that burning brown paper bag! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

PikeBishop
02-28-2007, 07:53 AM
Dear All,
Now let me get this right.......was it not the case that the Japanese way of thinking was that bombers would be light and fast so that they could get in, bomb their target, and get out before any opposing fighters could take off climb and intercept them.(the same theory that the early Mosquitoe bombers were following). I don't know what the max speed of a Betty was but the idea makes sense to me in that most contemporary fighters would be hard pushed to catch them.
regards,
SLP.

berg417448
02-28-2007, 09:14 AM
Originally posted by PikeBishop:
Dear All,
Now let me get this right.......was it not the case that the Japanese way of thinking was that bombers would be light and fast so that they could get in, bomb their target, and get out before any opposing fighters could take off climb and intercept them.(the same theory that the early Mosquitoe bombers were following). I don't know what the max speed of a Betty was but the idea makes sense to me in that most contemporary fighters would be hard pushed to catch them.
regards,
SLP.

The max speed for the Betty was around 285 mph. The max speeds for the Hurricane and the Tomahawk are much faster than that. A primary consideration in the construction of the Betty was long range. That's one reason why it didn't have the heavier self sealing tanks.

tagTaken2
02-28-2007, 06:59 PM
Wonder if the AI is consistent. Never tried this, but if you put historical matchups, do they come off they way they should?

Feathered_IV
02-28-2007, 09:58 PM
That would be nice. Buffalo's trying to turn fight with A6M's etc.

Here's hoping BoB will have things like early RAF fighters employing stupid Area Fighting tactics and 110's in ring 'o roses defensive circles.