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Jagdklinger
12-26-2004, 06:30 PM
Many thanks for those who replied to the 109v190 thread; thanks to the advice I am having a great time with my 190, and am racking up kills left right and centre...

Anyway, I have been playing with the I-16 lately (who can resist that '30s racer' look http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif but I only manage to get a kill every three or so missions. I would like a few tips on how to handle myself in the 'Rata'. So far I have noticed:

- startling maneouvrability/roll (but so twitchy I can never hit anything)
- good acceleration(seems to maintain/regain 350k no matter what I'm doing to it)
- reasonable firepower for soviet fighter
- tough; incredibly so. In fact, I was chasing a 109 (while upside-down http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif flat out at 10ft and 300kph; actually hit the ground, and slid on my roof for 300m; emerging unscathed except for a bent prop!!! That's amazing.
- BUT vicious when it does spin: in fact, if it starts to spin, I seem unable to pull it out. *Any tips for recovery in a I-16?

So basically, what tactics should I use?

(I'd also be interested to hear any I-16 stories - they are so neat and nifty you just have to tag them as the popular underdog....)

ROTC4612
12-26-2004, 06:56 PM
Well I found that in my flight time with the I-16 I got alot of kills by getting into a turning fight. I never really have success with loops though. As far as it being twitchy just practice and you'll get it. Hope that helps

sithgod
12-26-2004, 07:49 PM
I am not a great pilot by any stretch, but I get the most success out of the I-16 in turns. As long as I don't lose to much speed and get close to stall. I find if that happens and there are other enemy about I tend to be a easy kill.

civildog
12-26-2004, 08:18 PM
It's not a 'Rata'!!!!! It's an "Ishak"!!!! Grrrrrrrr!

It has a great roll rate and so can out-turn almost anything in the air except the I-153. Be careful when pitching down, though, or you'll kill the engine.

It's also pretty forgiving in crash landings. I love the little beast, myself, and usually fly one online named "Lil Mule". When that one's in the shop my other is called "Lawndart".

civildog
12-26-2004, 08:27 PM
Oh, for recovery....chop the throttle and give it rudder opposite the spin. It'll recover fast enough but then be easy on giving it the gas and pulling the nose up or it'll spin out again and you probably won't have enough altitude to recover again.

My best Ishak story is when I bagged 3 E-4/7's online in one sortie in an I-16 after getting frustrated by being repeatedly shot down by those 3 guys while flying in an Lagg.

One by one they'd come screaming down at my I-16 and I'd roll out of the way, turn into them and let them have it point blank as they'd go by. Sometimes I'd be hovering right on the edge of a turning stall to get the shot.

One by one until they were gone. It was hilarious. After that they approached with much more caution and I had a harder time of it but it was worth it for those first kills.

Friendly_flyer
12-27-2004, 02:08 AM
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- reasonable firepower for soviet fighter
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Actually, the later i-16s with the 20 mm cannons are very well armed. The Russian grenades does an awful lot of damage. Shooting down He-111s in a late I-16 is a blast, if you can catch them...

The I-16 is very much a T&B-fighter. The only time you are better served by using superior speed and do B&Z-fighting is when up against I-153s, P-11s or Brewsters. Pay particular attention to Brewsters. They are nasty little fighters and the .50s do quite a lot of damage, even to I-16s.

civildog
12-27-2004, 02:18 AM
"If you can catch them"...HAHAHAHAHA....I HATE it when I miss a chance to go after the Heinkels because I end up in a stern chase!

Usually I load up on rockets for those and climb as high as fast as possible right away before they show up (take less fuel if I can to help). That way I can dive down and use the rockets for the best chance of knocking down one and maybe slowing down 1 or 2 more so I can keep up with them.

Nothing more frustrating than burning out your engine while watching those big fat juicy bombers fly away.

Friendly_flyer
12-27-2004, 03:37 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CivilDog:
Usually I load up on rockets for those
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Why haven't i thought of that? Thanks for the tip! Hunting bombers with rocets in the Me-262 is such good fun, it must be even better in the good old I-16!

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Nothing more frustrating than burning out your engine while watching those big fat juicy bombers fly away. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Story of my (virtual) life... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

jugent
12-27-2004, 03:47 AM
The AI-fighter have an deal with good, they dont have to bother about gravity.
Dont fight them

73GIAP_Milan
12-27-2004, 06:30 AM
I-16's and I-153's are incredible fighters, albeit slow and later era planes can easily overtake them..BUT

OFFLINE i have flown them with great success against ACE AI Me262 Jets http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif
Online however are my skills limited but i managed to take down some guy in an IL2Field Mod. version - the one with the double rearguns
and some unsuspecting Fw190A4 driver who thought to get me easily http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I prefer the I-153 over the I-16 though, and you have to make a choice in which type you like more, the machinegun version or the one with cannons.
all my offline kills against me262 jets are with the MG armed versions as you got plenty ammo on them and a high ROF.

just keep turning and give them a quick burst everytime you can hit them, sooner or later they WILL get damaged.
And remember to dodge their ammo http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

SUPERAEREO
12-27-2004, 07:01 AM
The RS-82 rockets are great to take the wings off Gladiators too. Everything else is too fast to be hit with any consistancy, apart from Heinkels He.111...

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

S!

p1ngu666
12-27-2004, 08:49 AM
190 was a copy of the i16 tbh http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

anyways, ull need to fly with 120% mix, and rad open, when in combat use 110% all the time.

most important is maxium attack, just go at the 109s, and keep going with no let up.

as for memories, og_express spb coops where i16s dive bomb targets then 109's arrive e and f's i think, manic battle, trying to protect tb3's, and tie up and destroy as many 109s as possible, then race back to base and try and get the last few 109s who are haressing tb3's. my best memory of that is some guy circle climbing up, me following low on ammo having already dispatched 3 109s or so, and him saying "die fat plane" he turns for a near headon, i just get some shots on target (he doesnt fire) i swing round again, wondering why he hasnt turned, then i notice in chat/msg text it says pingu has disabled xxx's controls. i had got all of his controls with 1 lucky shot http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif.

imagine some poor german looking down and seeing the remains of his joystick http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

han freak solo
12-27-2004, 03:20 PM
Proper name or not, I love La Rata! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif

The engine sound, the turning, the open canopy, etc.

Before the IL-2 game came along I only saw this little wonder plane in books and never gave it a serious thought.

I just need some fuel injection instead of the carburetor. I've only gotten one successful restart after doing stupid nose down manuvers. I had plenty of altitude and made a steep dive, when pulling up at near black-out Gs, I hit the starter and it actually ran!! I got to RTB and keep the kills in that mission!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

I kill the most and easiest in this little beast. I also have the most success in head on attacks in "La Rata"! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif