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xxcurarexx
10-25-2004, 03:27 PM
...and what types of servers do you plan on?Just curious about what the average player can expect in terms of success rate on line in dogfights. And let's be honest here guys... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I play on Full Real Servers only (with the exceptions of speed bar and my own map icon sometimes).

Kills/session: ~0.1

I get killed A LOT more than I get a kill and sometimes I go days without a kill.

Red_Russian13
10-25-2004, 03:28 PM
About negative five.

Seriously, I might average a half a kill per session online.

PBNA-Boosher
10-25-2004, 03:42 PM
Considering each of my online sessions usually last 4-5 hours...

I'd say it depends on the mission.

If it's a coop, I generally can get 2-3 kills, if I'm in a bomber, more.

If it's a d/f, I usually get up to 15, sometimes 30 if I'm lucky

If the opponent is AI, they better have some sort of version of religion in their own computer world, because they won't make it 5 minutes under my guns.

El Turo
10-25-2004, 04:14 PM
A "session" can be 15 minutes or 5 hours, man! Heh.. that's a little difficult to quantify.

Now, you could ask what a person's average kill ratio is (kills per death), or how many kills per mission maybe. That'd be a lot easier to quantify I think.

On average, I'd guess that in a server like Warclouds where folks tend to be overly aggressive (including me), I'm likely to average 2-5 kills per death or so I'd estimate. Of course, there's some nights where you're just in the zone and can't be killed and will rack up a ton of kills without dying and then there are nights where you can't take off without killing yourself too.. heh..

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PlimPlam
10-25-2004, 04:19 PM
Not a whole lot to be honest. Seem to spend most of my time flying around squinting to see where my unsuspecting foes are. Then running as fast as I can when someone finds me unawares instead.

Heh ran out of gas twice the other day if that tells you anything.

Edit O and I blew the hell out of one of my teammates the other day too. Drop'd in on a furball lined up and hammer'd down for a perfect kill. Which was quickly followed by a wait a minute that looked like a p-40 and someone saying wtf I was blown up by my own ai!?! in chat.

Felt shame and left the server. So I guess you definately could say not really many at all. Unless its me teammates. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Korolov
10-25-2004, 04:27 PM
20, tops, but closer to 10 for about a hour or so of flying. The good thing is that my losses generally stay low, with maybe 5 or so actual deaths within the same space of time. Sometimes lower.

BinaryFalcon
10-25-2004, 04:42 PM
On the whole, I'd say I average about one every 7-10 minutes on a DF server. Sometimes more, sometimes less. Overall I'd put my kill ratio around 2:1, and even on my worst days I can usually manage to hold better than 1:1, if not by much.

Then there are times when I'm really "on" and everything just falls into place and I'll get 3 in as many minutes.

My worst "off" day was 3 aircraft destroyed in the space of 5 minutes. They were all mine and I completely botched attempts to get off the ground. I burned two P80s up on the taxiway, and stalled out a P39 on takeoff because I was carrying a bomb I wasn't used to having.

WTE_Dukayn
10-25-2004, 04:49 PM
Average about 2-3 kills per session. Best ever was...8 I think.

xxcurarexx
10-25-2004, 05:07 PM
Wow, you people get a lot of kills! No wonder I spend most of my on-line time as a smoking pile of wreckage. I'm getting better though...lately I've been surviving in a fight longer and aaaallllmost turning the table a couple of times. BTW, are we talking mostly FR servers here?

Oh, and El Turo, you're absolutely right, quanitifying in 'kills per session' means nothing. How about 'kills per hour of on-line play'? Man, my ratio will go down even more if I calculate it like that! Probably to like 0.00326 or something... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

xxcurarexx
10-25-2004, 05:09 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Korolov:
20, tops, but closer to 10 for about a hour or so of flying. The good thing is that my losses generally stay low, with maybe 5 or so actual deaths within the same space of time. Sometimes lower. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Holy ****!

El Turo
10-25-2004, 05:19 PM
Kills per hour in a dogfighting server like warclouds? Probably somewhere between 5-15 an hour sounds about right, I'd agree depending on how many people in the server and what kind of missions are being posted. That's around 2-3 kills every 15 minutes which doesn't seem too unreasonable given the usual short time-to-combat travel in these kind of servers. It also depends on what everyone is flying. Fighting against bombers, fw190s or P47s are going to soak up a lot more ammo than other planes.. so you're less likely to rack up big kill tallies, for instance.

I wish that every server had the stat-tracking software enabled.. makes for a fun way to review your sorties and establish intersting statistical comparisons between different aircraft and other pilots.

That's one thing I do like about WWII Online. I haven't been doing any flying over there for a while, but it's still fun to pop in and check out historical stats once in a while.

Supr
10-25-2004, 05:25 PM
doesn't it matter what server you play on, and what settings you use? Don't you think soeone on a big map with full real settings is not going to get as many kills as someone in an airstart arcade server?

El Turo
10-25-2004, 05:28 PM
Well.. of course. Which is why I precluded my statement with a "Warclouds" like server.

xxcurarexx
10-25-2004, 05:38 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by El Turo:
Kills per hour in a dogfighting server like warclouds? Probably somewhere between 5-15 an hour sounds about right, QUOTE]

That's quite a bit. Do you spend your time hunting or do you just dive into the furball. It takes me about 15 min to even find a fight on Warclouds, unless I head for the furball. But I don't last very long in those so I try to pick off stragglers.

Korolov
10-25-2004, 05:53 PM
My normal K/D ratio is reflected on locked pit servers - part of the reason I manage to stay alive. You can hit someone, then run away without ever being caught based on surprise alone.

Vision also makes a big factor here, you need to learn how to spot small light dots amoungst a light background, and vice versa. It's hard to keep that up for more than a few hours.

xTHRUDx
10-25-2004, 06:28 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by xxcurarexx:
...and what types of servers do you plan on?Just curious about what the average player can expect in terms of success rate on line in dogfights. And let's be honest here guys... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I play on Full Real Servers only (with the exceptions of speed bar and my own map icon sometimes).

Kills/session: ~0.1

I get killed A LOT more than I get a kill and sometimes I go days without a kill. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>



check out our stats page to awnser your question
http://209.209.44.31/il2/stats/

VW-IceFire
10-25-2004, 06:39 PM
On UK-Dedicated I average probably 2 or 3 kills to every death.

On other servers I can manage 2 deaths for 10 shot down or better. Depends on the scenario, the planes, etc.

My best plane is the FW190 (any variant), my second best is the Spitfire IX, my third is the P-51, and so on.

HART_dreyer
10-25-2004, 06:54 PM
Average? Between 3 and 4 per sortie (best ratio is 282:1 kill/death http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif). Highest, 9 with spitfire and 13 with Zero (2 times).

Hunde_3.JG51
10-25-2004, 07:28 PM
About 12-15 in a two hour session on Warclouds. My last three times on WC I have scored 40+ kills while being shot down 3 times (killed once by enemy flak). My last time on I got 15 kills with one shootdown (PF-Coastie got me IIRC while I jumped a P-51).

Actually it is strange, the 12-15 is pretty consistent. Getting shotdown can vary though and this is all in my trusty FW-190A-9. Put me in 109, P-47, P-38, etc. and I would likely do worse. The proper use of hit & run tactics of the FW-190 also lends itself to higher kill ratio because disengaging is much easier (which is one of the reasons I like the FW-190 so much, you can let the plane do alot of the work for you).

LuckyBoy1
10-25-2004, 07:58 PM
I'll let HH_Quazi or HH_Bebopp tell you because you won't believe it if I tell you.

PlimPlam
10-25-2004, 08:07 PM
Wow xthrudx I just went and checked my stats for the gg server. Says 11hours played 0 deaths 0 kills with only 14 shots fired.

Man am I depressed now. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif I get so lost on that server.

Edit=But I escaped from the enemy once! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Lunix
10-25-2004, 09:00 PM
I average 2 kills per hour pretty constantly over the past couple years unless xxcurarexx is online then it doubles http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

TgD Thunderbolt56
10-25-2004, 09:05 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Lunix:
I average 2 kills per hour pretty constantly over the past couple years unless xxcurarexx is online then it doubles http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


'Bout the same here.

xxcurarexx
10-25-2004, 09:42 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Lunix:
I average 2 kills per hour pretty constantly over the past couple years unless xxcurarexx is online then it doubles http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh hey now...let's keep it on the server, man. All these folks don't need to know that! LOL

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif I'll get you one of these days, you'll see

BfHeFwMe
10-25-2004, 10:11 PM
Cough.......gasp.......

Besides Hunde I've yet to see any of you others ever in the top scoreing positions on WC WF. Three thousand in an hour http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

TheJoyStick
10-25-2004, 10:46 PM
Well, back in the original IL2 days I'd fly on nooby settings and rack up kills like it was an FPS, but with the addition of FB and AEP, and my looonnnggg break, I never really got back in the "zone" where I could kill stuff..

So I didn't play a whole lot, but I did race a bit and was pretty good at that.


Now with PF, I can DF again and instead of nooby settings I fly full-real exclusively.

Sometimes if there aren't any, I'll fly whatever they give me.


Anyway, I've played 4 different games of PF online.

3 times on the same server, and once on another server.


My first time up I was shot down 0 times, I was shot up by AAA and had to run home like a little girl twice, I killed 13 people, and I landed 4 times.


My first time up ever I got 3 kills right off the bat, and proceeded to fly for another half hour, then get 2 more kills, and RTB with no scratches at all.


My second time I got pounded hard. Killed 2 people, died 7 times, crashed twice, and got smacked down by AAA a few times. No RTBs.

My third time I got 7 kills, 0 deaths, 1 RTB, and then I had to go.


Fourth time I got 3 kills, died twice, got shot up by AAA and had to RTB once, then I left.

ak-71
10-25-2004, 11:24 PM
I'd guess the AVERAGE kill/death RATIO online is ~1 (there are some crushes too),
or am I missing something?

I lately provide a target rich env. there. Today I got 1/3 and happy.
After I got X-45 when old joystick died a week ago I really suck http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

PS - I think AAAs are not really a death - just an accident http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

El Turo
10-25-2004, 11:36 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BfHeFwMe:
Cough.......gasp.......

Besides Hunde I've yet to see any of you others ever in the top scoreing positions on WC WF. Three thousand in an hour http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Here's a good example of a typical quick session in warclouds. Not that I feel particularly bound to prove myself.. but I just felt the urge to get you a screen cap for some reason. I had only died once to triple-A but had to log for the evening. Next time I'll go for 2000 pts just for you.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

http://home.comcast.net/~el_turo/Quick_Session.jpg


Regards,

~T.

Hunde_3.JG51
10-25-2004, 11:42 PM
Thanks BfHeFwMe, the other night I was over 2,000 with only one shootdown (don't think it was capture or death either IIRC), all in-flight aircraft. I wish I had the time to see how far I may have taken it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif. Btw, do you fly under the same name in HL? If not what is it as I try to look for forum guys (sorry if it is, my brain has been on vacation lately so bear with me).

Right now I am out of action until I get joystick woes sorted out http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif.

WUAF_Badsight
10-26-2004, 02:02 AM
WUAF_Genswat stayed in a server without a disco for just over 10 hours once to get 10,000 points . . . .. forget his final tally

WUAF_Badsight
10-26-2004, 02:04 AM
in a fully loaded Feild Mod Sturmovik i successfully Vulched a single spawn point DF map in a 12 person DF room

once i had run out of ammo my team-mates showed up to escourt me back

landed 1800 points =D

last re-install of FB lost my track http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

JtD
10-26-2004, 02:16 AM
I usually get about 5 kills per hour. But I spend about half my time going after ground targets.

Most fun for me is the IL-2 in early maps.

Most fun recent sortie was in a FW 190 A-6 where I crippeled 7 Spit IX's within something like 5 minutes. Sadly I got awarded only 6 of them.

(No I didn't fight 7 Spits by myself, they simply didn't watch their 6 while chasing my comrades.)

Korolov
10-26-2004, 02:24 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BfHeFwMe:
Cough.......gasp.......

Besides Hunde I've yet to see any of you others ever in the top scoreing positions on WC WF. Three thousand in an hour http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not everybody flies 24/7 in WC, numbnuts. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

Lunix
10-26-2004, 08:43 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WUAF_Badsight:
WUAF_Genswat stayed in a server without a disco for just over 10 hours once to get 10,000 points . . . .. forget his final tally <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
One Sunday afternoon I spent on comms with 'swat and I can confirm 99 kills before his computer crashed. Legendary.

jurinko
10-26-2004, 09:02 AM
few times i did 5 kills and rtb on full real. i do not fly online too much since have dial-up.

JG14_Josf
10-26-2004, 10:00 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Just Curious: How Many Kills per Online Session Do YOU Get?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I notice my handle on El Toro's post and my score was 0 while flying with JG14_Saci. This is typical for me. No kills. No deaths. JG14_Saci and I do not team up well yet. We are learning each others methods.

My average is about 1 kill per 2 hour session alone and about 1 kill per hour flying with a familiar wingman.

Coincidently I've been keeping track of teamwork stats since last week:

The following are two element team missions on the Warclouds WF server:

I flew 7 missions with Hertt and 2 missions with Scott.

JG14_Hertt: (7 flights) 11 kills no loses
6-P51
2-P39
1-P47
1-P38
1-Spit

JG14_Josf: (9 flights) 9 kills no loses
3-P38
2-Spit
2-P51
2-P47

JG14_Scott: (2 flights) 3 kills
2-Spit
1-Hurricane

On my 10th mission since starting this record we ran into some bad luck. Hertt lost his engine during a fight with a Spit and a Mustang at 7k meters. Hertt tried to ditch but ran into a building that he did not see until it was too late.

Our team score resets back to 0.

Good teamwork can easily double my kills per Online Session.

Last weeks WC fun (http://mysite.verizon.net/res0l0yx/IL2%20fight%20night%20log.htm)

http://mysite.verizon.net/res0l0yx/Zen.jpg

LilHorse
10-26-2004, 10:06 AM
Depends on what I'm flying. If I fly something like a P-51, Spitfire or a P-40 on P-40s vs. Zekes, I can manage about a kill per sortie. If I'm flying a 109, which is most of the time, I can go for three hours of flying without getting a kill and be shot down several times. But I'd rather be flying the 109. More of a challenge for me.

NorrisMcWhirter
10-26-2004, 10:07 AM
Hi,

I used to get a kill ratio of about ~4:1 on dial up and that had risen to about 5:1 on broadband. In WC or similar, I get ~2:1 kill ratio but I don't fly in there that often. Co-ops seems better at about 2-3:1.

How many I get in a session despends on the length of the session, the scenario and the aircraft chosen - any FW190A seems to give me the best opportunity of racking kills up while staying alive...providing it's not a desert map.

Cheers,
Norris

F19_Ob
10-26-2004, 12:04 PM
I'm quite happy if I get 1 kill during a sortie, most of the time I'm occuppied with evading and escaping foes and am surprised if I and/or my wingmen land in one piece.
Its not so unusual that I may damage several planes enough so I can get away though.

After AEP many of my kills are shared kills.
I usually fly with one or more wingmen now and Its really more fun to try keep my mates safe than nescessarily making the kill...I ofcourse take every opportunity to shoot.
One of the more satisfying moments are when I succeed in shooting down or scaring off an enemy from a friendlys tail in the last moment and/or we manage to get home under difficult circumstances.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

BinaryFalcon
10-26-2004, 12:12 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
Last weeks WC fun
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Semi-OT but,

Every time I see it written that way I think "water closet", and I'm not even from the UK.

What's up with that? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

RedDeth
10-26-2004, 12:18 PM
i think a good yardstick for any online ace is five kills per plane fullreal or pitoff.

with about 1 death per every 3 or 4 planes flown.or 1 death for every 15 to 20 kills.however with good teamwork and a couple aces you should get more kills and less deaths.

this isnt the norm just what you should strive for if you wish to be a good pilot.

thats what i personally look for in recruiting pilots.

El Turo
10-26-2004, 12:20 PM
Hart_Dreyer.. that kill-streak is impressive, btw. I've had similar luck in my attempt of achieving the longest possible kill streak without being shot down, but that's the biggest difference between our streaks. I just went until I was shot down as the sim I was playing at the time (WWII Online) didn't allow for parachuting to safety. Managed 74 kills without being shot down by being *extremely* conservative and safety-minded. Towards the end, I got sloppy and dove into a pack of Hurricanes climbing up at my 109 and got the golden-BB to the head insta-death as they sprayed and prayed in my direction.

=]

It's fun as a change of pace and personal challenge, but it does get a bit draining and tense too.

Best,

~T.