View Full Version : Is Northrop going to sue every toy, model, & game that features their products...???

12-22-2004, 08:27 PM
I really can't see Northrop suing every product out on the shelves today that features one of their products produced 60 years ago.

Just think of all the games alone that have been produced that incorporate one of their ships or A/C in some obscure way.

Then you have the toys that may have a carrier with a few small plastic Avengers on the deck. Those nasty toy companies!

Give me a break! I could see a problem if someone was selling life size, flyable, Northrop A/C on the open market as civilian A/C, and not giving Northrop their $$$$. But were talking about a simulation here (it's not real).

12-22-2004, 09:54 PM
Not every company, just those who can't afford to lose if they fight back. In the USA, letigation is like a poker game. It doesn't matter what hand your holding as long as you can convince your opponent his hand is not as good as yours, you win.

12-23-2004, 10:55 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/yago9/fluch.gif Who did this ? Northrop? i will never buy from them ..ever!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

12-23-2004, 11:26 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Gr7_Bizu-RO:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/yago9/fluch.gif Who did this ? Northrop? i will never buy from them ..ever!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
LMAO - how many did you buy from them in the past? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

12-23-2004, 11:28 AM
Most companies go through the pain of securing the right to use Northrops aircraft.

It's not their fault someone else messed up.

12-23-2004, 11:45 AM
Defense contractor Northrop Grumman Corp. said Wednesday that it received a $248 million Air Force contract to continue producing replacement motors for intercontinental ballistic missiles.

Under the agreement - the fourth of seven possible production extensions - Northrop will continue remanufacturing motors to replace aging solid rocket motor sets in the Minuteman III ICBM fleet.

The program, which carries a total value of $1.75 billion, is geared at maintaining the Minuteman III force in alert readiness status through 2020.
I just canceled my order for Ballistic Missles in protest. Interesting though, Part of IP lawsuit you have to show econonic loss. Lockheed stock has tripled since Bush took office, His Carlyle grough has bought my Verizon Hawaii and look at what Forbes magazine says about Northrup/ Grumman..Google Northrup!

"........Northrup Grumman just recieved a 250 million dollar Contract........Northrop holds a 15-year contract with a total projected value of more than $6 billion to upkeep the United States' ICBM weapon system.

"Shares of Northrop rose 1.1 percent, or 62 cents, to close at $56.53 on the New York Stock Exchange."
Really, if microsoft took them to court Northrup would loses. It really is fair use. IMHO. If 1C Maddox (Russian Co.)took them to court they might lose, The US is still pissed that Stalin stole our B29,LOL just kiddin... Cheers mate! and Merry Cristmas too..

12-23-2004, 12:41 PM
The only thing they can enforce is the use of the company names, logos, etc. This means Northrop, Grumman, Vought, not Hellcat, Black Widow, or Corsair.

As my father points out, there were models of the B-17 available, in wood or bakelite during WWII. In addition, model and toy companies made they wares ever since. The design, image of the TBF and everything else is in the public domain. The fact that the design rights were not protected in the period between WWII and the mid-nineties, when the licensing bug hit, means that in reality they have surrendered their rights to the image or to the right make represenations, scale or graphic models. Since the early models included the factory name, this too may be open, since this will not confuse a buyer of the current N-G products.

If this ever went to court, I doubt that N-G could ever prove damages. (What? IL-2 hurt the sale of F4U-1's to other county?!http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif)

As regards to the naval vessels built in Newport News, I thing these too are fair game as they were designed and named by the Department of the Navy. You never hear of the USS Yorktown (CV-6) described as the Newport News USS Yorktown?

I say "Go for it!" Let the modelers finish the planesa and ships!

12-23-2004, 12:53 PM
Nothing will come of this...

The US government has been a subsidizer of every military aircraft "ever developed" in America.

This is like Batman waving his cape...LOL

12-24-2004, 10:21 AM
In the american civil legal system to win a litigation of this kind you need to merely show:

a. damage has been done to company name by creating this product.

b. that said company is monetarily damaged or has suffered a monetary loss...ANY LOSS..(this includes the loss of royalties the product company would have paid the company for the rights)by the creation of this product.

c. that "a" has or will eventually cause "b"

the system exists not only to pay money where money is due...but to punish the product company so they will not do it again...(in theory)

And even though it sucks bigtime...everyone is right...a bigtime company like N/G has all the resources in the world to "bluff" a smaller company into thinking they will lose a civil lawsuit on any one or all of these grounds. Ergo...smaller companies will settle out-of-court for a much smaller "penalty" and save some $. REGARDLESS OF IF THEY HAVE OR HAVE NOT DONE ANYTHING WRONG. (Not that I would know anyway)