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rodion_zero
10-30-2004, 12:59 AM
Tried releasing a mistal Ju88 flying bomb at the Lexington...the screenies speak for themselves:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/rodsky/m0001.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/rodsky/m0002.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/rodsky/m0003.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/rodsky/m0004.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/rodsky/m0005.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/rodsky/m0006.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/rodsky/m0007.jpg

The Lex? Not a scratch...steamed along happily after the spectacular blast, as if nothing happened http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif I don't know if this is a bug, or maybe the Mistal is just full of HE-type explosives and nothing armor-piercing that can penetrate the hull or something.

For comparison, I ordered an AI He-111 to release two 1,000-pounders on the Lex (in the same custom mission), and when the He-111's bombs hit, she sank quickly, like a rock. And although the explosion was less fancy than the nuke-like explosion of the Mistal impact, the He-111 was damaged from the blast from its own bombs.

-RODION

DD_NL
10-30-2004, 01:24 AM
I think it's very lame that the carriers are invincible.

Viper_42
10-30-2004, 01:31 AM
wow that's pretty ridiculous. But I guess until this gets "fixed" you just need to decide between which is most effective againsts carriers and just use that.

rodion_zero
10-30-2004, 01:34 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DD_NL:
I think it's very lame that the carriers are invincible. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Whoa whoa wait a second. I wasn't implying that the carriers were indestructable, because as I said, the He-111's bombs were indeed able to sink the Lex. I was just disappointed that the Mistal wasn't the "ship killer" I was hoping it would be in the sim. I was simply planning to have an AEP+PF multiplayer session with my brother and I told him I was building a custom MP-mission where I was going to give his carrier a "surprise treat", but alas, it wasn't to be--I was the one who was surprised. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

-RODION

P.S. I am also wondering if the Ohka flying bomb that can be carried and released by a Betty is also a dud when it comes to sea vessels. Because if the Ohka works, then it might be an AEP weapon stats vs. PF weapon stats bug/issue. Will try out the Ohka later and posts results of my tests here.

Sakai9745
10-30-2004, 01:48 AM
That is an evil masterpiece. Thanks for sharing the screenies.

No way that I'm an expert, but using that mushroom cloud as a guide, I'd imagine that the force of such a blast would have some serious effects on any ship, even the Lex. Anything will break if it's hit hard enough.

rodion_zero
10-30-2004, 01:58 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Sakai9745:
That is an evil masterpiece. Thanks for sharing the screenies.

No way that I'm an expert, but using that mushroom cloud as a guide, I'd imagine that the force of such a blast would have some serious effects on any ship, even the Lex. Anything will break if it's hit hard enough. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I believe the explosion would have looked better if I had a decent graphics card (taken using an ancient GeForce2+GTS/Ultra). But since the track is saved, will watch it again soon in my brother comp (he has a 6800 hehe). It's amazing that this complex sim still works on quite ancient rigs (now playing it on a P3-733mhz can you believe that). Yeah I don't get the fancy water and most of my land detail is nil, but hey, the important thing is, I can play the game--no complaints here! Hahahahaha!

-RODION

Texas LongHorn
10-30-2004, 02:04 AM
Rodion, I ran the same type mission against the Tirpitz months ago when AEP came out... the result is the same. You get this great semi-nuke sized mushroom cloud and blast radius, then the Tirpitz sails serenely out of the maelstrom <ggg.> It must be something in the code about how the Mistel is modeled, it works great on ground targets. All the best, LongHorn

Sakai9745
10-30-2004, 02:11 AM
Must be the code... now could someone please explain to me what code is. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif j/k

Hey Rodian. That IS amazing. If it makes you feel better, I'm running a P4 3.2 with an 128MB X300 Radeon and 1GB RAM. I COULD run with perfect water, but the FPS is a bit unacceptable, so I don't.

John_Stag
10-30-2004, 02:16 AM
Given the size of the bang, I don't doubt that the carrier took some serious damage, but there are no damage LODs to reflect this. Having said that, I don't doubt that a Mistel would have a pretty good chance of sending a carrier to the bottom.

Couple of things to consider; Lexington and Saratoga were originally laid down as battle-cruisers, but were converted to carriers halfway through construction. they're a bit better armoured than your average CV.

When 617 squadron attacked the Tirpitz, they used "Grand Slams" to pierce the armour. they could have used 4000lb block-busters, or any other ordinance, but the chosen weapon was the biggest armour-piercing bomb in the inventory, so I guess the ability of armour to protect against a purely big bang shouldn't be underestimated.

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

rodion_zero
10-30-2004, 02:23 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Texas LongHorn:
Rodion, I ran the same type mission against the Tirpitz months ago when AEP came out... the result is the same. You get this great semi-nuke sized mushroom cloud and blast radius, then the Tirpitz sails serenely out of the maelstrom <ggg.> It must be something in the code about how the Mistel is modeled, it works great on ground targets. All the best, LongHorn <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

LOL I loved the way you put it... "serenely" HAHAHAHAHA! Because that's exactly how the Lex emerged from all that smoke. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Anyways, I read somewhere that the Ohka was designed primarily as an anti-ship flying bomb, similar to that Japanese Suicide Jet-Bomb that the IJAAF developed in 1945, so I am really interested to know if the damage boxes on the US carriers would get a beating from it.

-RODION

Seahawk89
10-30-2004, 02:46 AM
Mistels can not hurt any of the ships. Been that way from the start.

NorrisMcWhirter
10-30-2004, 05:52 AM
Hi,

Mistel obviously has the same damage effect model as the 151/20 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

So, why doesn't the Mistel destroy ships?

Cheers,
Norris

VMF223_Smitty
10-30-2004, 06:11 AM
Pretty ridiculous all around.

Jippo01
10-30-2004, 07:18 AM
In real life Mistel was designed to sink capital ships. It has a shaped charge warhead and it was able to penetrate huge amounts of armor. IIRC 7 metres, which is several times more than any warship had.

more reading (for example):
http://www.making-history.ca/ju88project/Mistel/defaultl.htm


-jippo

Mashie_Nibblick
10-30-2004, 07:46 AM
I remember reading somewhere on these boards shortly after the AEP release that the Mistel was no good against ships (in the game, mind) because for collision detection purposes, it was considered an aircraft rather than an ordnance. Aircraft colliding with ships had no effect, pre-PF, if I recall. Why this hasn't changed for the Mistel, I can't say.

The above post is based upon vague recolections. As always, I could be wrong.

KeenFox
10-30-2004, 08:38 AM
I just have to correct a fellow pilot here:
"When 617 squadron attacked the Tirpitz, they used "Grand Slams" to pierce the armour. they could have used 4000lb block-busters, or any other ordinance, but the chosen weapon was the biggest armour-piercing bomb in the inventory, so I guess the ability of armour to protect against a purely big bang shouldn't be underestimated."

No, the Tripitz was sunk by 15hits of armour-piercing 500lb and 1000lb bombs. -All- modern antiship missiles, such as the harpoons and tomahawks uses explosive power to TEAR ship armor apart. I can assure you that the mistle carries far more explosive firepower then modern weapons do.

I dont know who told you this, but you should tell him to check is sources.

SKULLS Virga
10-30-2004, 08:46 AM
You were not supposed to release it - I wanted to see you land that thing on the Lex! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

rodion_zero
10-30-2004, 09:24 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SKULLS Virga:
You were not supposed to release it - I wanted to see you land that thing on the Lex! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Don't tempt me http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Oh well, I'll give it a shot--I always love challenges! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Err, do I win something in case I give you guys an NTRK of me doing it successfully? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

-RODION

SKULLS Virga
10-30-2004, 10:54 AM
You could win a days worth of respect and possibly a "track of the week award". And maybe I can talk Goat into giving you a rubber chicken. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

rodion_zero
10-30-2004, 01:26 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SKULLS Virga:
You could win a days worth of respect and possibly a "track of the week award". And maybe I can talk Goat into giving you a rubber chicken. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

"a days worth of respect" eh? Hmmm, I thought I already earned that via my carrier land tutorials and the spectacular landing videos I made? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Oh alright...just to show to you that I keep my word...hehe...

Well it was more of a crash landing really, hehe, but I survived! What is it they say about landings? Any landing you can walk away from is a good one? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Reason behind wheels-up landing is that, when I land it with wheels, it rolls off due to the fact that the Ju88 portion of the Mistel-combo don't have wheelbrakes! It was actually tricky to land it wheels up because there was the danger of detonating the Mistel (I attempted it no less than 24 times because of these err explosions LOL), and even discovered what part of the carrier that the Mistel should hit in order to sink it (yeah it does sink! Details in next post). Ok enough talk, pics here:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/rodsky/mistel_lands_on_essex01.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/rodsky/mistel_lands_on_essex02.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/rodsky/mistel_lands_on_essex06.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/rodsky/mistel_lands_on_essex03.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/rodsky/mistel_lands_on_essex04.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/rodsky/mistel_lands_on_essex05.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/rodsky/mistel_lands_on_essex07.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/rodsky/mistel_lands_on_essex08.jpg

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Download the NTRK here!

http://www.msuiit.edu.ph/astrosoc/temp/mistel_landed_essex.ntrk

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Don't forget to read the next post--I managed to SINK the Essex (as well as the Lex) with the mistel!!!

-RODION

rodion_zero
10-30-2004, 01:35 PM
MANAGED TO KILL ESSEX AND LEX WITH MISTEL!

Due to the many times I attempted landing the Mistel on the carriers (NOTE: PLEASE READ THE POST IMMEDIATELY [i]BEFORE THIS ONE!!!)[/b], I accidentally discovered the carriers' weak spot...the STERN!!! Hehehe I kept hitting that while attempting to land the Mistel-combo on the deck, when I noticed the carrier kept getting damaged and eventually sinks! So I did a "formal" attempt using a low-altitude hi-drag (wheels down) method and here are the results!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/rodsky/mistel_kills_essex00.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/rodsky/mistel_kills_essex01.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/rodsky/mistel_kills_essex02.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/rodsky/mistel_kills_essex03.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/rodsky/mistel_kills_essex04.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/rodsky/mistel_kills_essex05.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/rodsky/mistel_kills_essex06.jpg

I also think that a direct Mistel hit on the carrier deck will either sink it or heavily damage it, because I also tried this on the Lex, and once, I managed to sink it when I accidentally stalled the Mistel on an attempted landing and dove straight down on the deck. Thus, I have proven that carriers do sink if hit with the mistel...you just have to know where the damage boxes are!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

NTRK here!

http://www.msuiit.edu.ph/astrosoc/temp/mistel_kills_essex4a.ntrk

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

-RODION

P.S. The Betty-Ohka combo seems to have NOT yet been implemented in-game. Maybe it comes with the upcoming patch (where the Betty becomes flyable).

Snootles
10-30-2004, 01:41 PM
So the Mistel does work after all!

Though with that thing a hit anywhere should put any vessel out of commission, and make it look a bit more "damaged" too.

BTW, I'm surprised your Fw 190 didn't lose any pieces, being as close to the blast as you were...

rodion_zero
10-30-2004, 01:50 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Snootles:

BTW, I'm surprised your Fw 190 didn't lose any pieces, being as close to the blast as you were... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

See that yellow-orange blast radius? From my many attempts, I discovered that if you are outside that area at the moment of the blast, you're A-OK. Thus, a climb-out maneuver is bad because you lose speed and can't get out of the blast radius quicker than a gentle (not a break turn) diving bank 120 degrees towards left or right of the target.

Hey aren't you going to congratulate me for being able to land and actually SURVIVE the crashlanding of the mistel on the Essex (see previous post)? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif LOL my fingers are sooooo stiff from all the attempts...it's 3:51 AM here, I need to sleep...oh wait, I don't know what sleep anymore is...I forgot. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

-RODION

P.S. Before I forget, SKULLS, you owe me a rubber chicken!!!!!!!!!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

rodion_zero
10-30-2004, 05:52 PM
(reposting this here, in case SKULLS is too lazy to read the previous page http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif )

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SKULLS Virga:
You could win a days worth of respect and possibly a "track of the week award". And maybe I can talk Goat into giving you a rubber chicken. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

"a days worth of respect" eh? Hmmm, I thought I already earned that via my carrier landing tutorials and the spectacular landing videos I made? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Oh alright...just to show to you that I keep my word...hehe...

Well it was more of a crash landing really, hehe, but I survived! What is it they say about landings? Any landing you can walk away from is a good one? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Reason behind wheels-up landing is that, when I land it with wheels, it rolls off due to the fact that the Ju88 portion of the Mistel-combo don't have wheelbrakes! It was actually tricky to land it wheels up because there was the danger of detonating the Mistel (I attempted it no less than 24 times because of these err explosions LOL), and even discovered what part of the carrier that the Mistel should hit in order to sink it (yeah it does sink! Details in next post). Ok enough talk, pics here:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/rodsky/mistel_lands_on_essex01.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/rodsky/mistel_lands_on_essex02.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/rodsky/mistel_lands_on_essex06.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/rodsky/mistel_lands_on_essex03.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/rodsky/mistel_lands_on_essex04.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/rodsky/mistel_lands_on_essex05.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/rodsky/mistel_lands_on_essex07.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/rodsky/mistel_lands_on_essex08.jpg

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Download the NTRK here!

http://www.msuiit.edu.ph/astrosoc/temp/mistel_landed_essex.ntrk

-RODION

Tater-SW-
10-30-2004, 06:01 PM
I think all the ships should trigger the smoking state earlier than they do. The sinking can stay the same (except for bugs, obviously), but they should smoke with a single bomb hit, IMO.

Many many times pilots flew home claiming a burning ship as sunk that wasn't. Heck, the Yorktown was claimed sunk 4 times by IJN pilots before she was actually sunk by a sub (that claimed her just the 1 time http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif ).

tater

RAF74_Buzzsaw
10-30-2004, 08:50 PM
Salute

The Tirpitz was not sunk by 1000lber's. It was sunk by Tallboys, carried by Lancasters. Previously it had been damaged by 1000 lbers.

Details:

http://www.bismarck-class.dk/tirpitz/tirpitz_menu.html

Heuristic_ALgor
10-30-2004, 10:10 PM
Nice pics and very funny stuff Dave. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

rodion_zero
10-31-2004, 02:45 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Heuristic_ALgor:
Nice pics and very funny stuff Dave. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Err, who's Dave? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

-RODION

Heuristic_ALgor
10-31-2004, 05:10 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by rodion_zero:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Heuristic_ALgor:
Nice pics and very funny stuff Dave. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Err, who's Dave? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

-RODION <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hello.

My name is HAL.

David Bowman was the last person I ever saw before IT happened.

Now I call everyone Dave.

rodion_zero
10-31-2004, 06:12 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Heuristic_ALgor:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by rodion_zero:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Heuristic_ALgor:
Nice pics and very funny stuff Dave. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Err, who's Dave? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

-RODION <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hello.

My name is HAL.

David Bowman was the last person I ever saw before IT happened.

Now I call everyone Dave. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ahh I see. So, do you know how to sing "A Bicycle Built for Two?" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

-RODION

GerritJ9
10-31-2004, 08:09 AM
1) Tallboys were 5 ton "Earthquake" bombs designed by Barnes-Wallis, the man behind the Vickers Wellington, the dambusting bouncing bomb and the 10-ton version of the Tallboy, the Grand Slam. 617 Squadron (of dambusting fame) sank the Tirpitz in November 1944, flying from RAF Lossiemouth with Lancasters modified to carry Tallboys.
2) If the Mistel hit the stern of the carrier, why does she go down by the bows??????

rodion_zero
10-31-2004, 11:14 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by GerritJ9:

2) If the Mistel hit the stern of the carrier, why does she go down by the bows?????? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Did she go down by the bows? Did you infer from the screenshots, or did you download my NTRK and watched it?

-RODION

GerritJ9
11-01-2004, 04:47 AM
Screenshots- they clearly show the carrier down by the bows and NOT the stern.

rodion_zero
11-01-2004, 06:39 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by GerritJ9:
Screenshots- they clearly show the carrier down by the bows and NOT the stern. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Looks like the "ship sinking animation" is the same for all ships (the bow sinks first ALWAYS), regardless of where the breach in the hull is. I've noticed this after hundreds of skip-bombing practice runs and torpedo practice runs using different approach angles towards a cargo ship and some destroyers.

-RODION

SKULLS Virga
11-01-2004, 06:51 PM
O.k. I give - you got your days worth of respect... Which will be over in about 5 minutes. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

Sorry I forgot to tell you yesterday!

rodion_zero
11-01-2004, 06:58 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SKULLS Virga:
O.k. I give - you got your days worth of respect... Which will be over in about 5 minutes. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

Sorry I forgot to tell you yesterday! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Just attempting to do it and succeeding was a reward in itself :P

I still want my rubber chicken though! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

-RODION

John_Stag
11-01-2004, 07:18 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by KeenFox:
I just have to correct a fellow pilot here:
"When 617 squadron attacked the Tirpitz, they used "Grand Slams" to pierce the armour. they could have used 4000lb block-busters, or any other ordinance, but the chosen weapon was the biggest armour-piercing bomb in the inventory, so I guess the ability of armour to protect against a purely big bang shouldn't be underestimated."

No, the Tripitz was sunk by 15hits of armour-piercing 500lb and 1000lb bombs. -All- modern antiship missiles, such as the harpoons and tomahawks uses explosive power to TEAR ship armor apart. I can assure you that the mistle carries far more explosive firepower then modern weapons do.

I dont know who told you this, but you should tell him to check is sources. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Your abosoutly right. Bad memory. it wasn't "Grand Slams," they were "Tallboys"

http://www.kbismarck.com/tirpitz.html

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/2WWtirpitz.htm

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/2WWtallboy.htm

http://college.hmco.com/history/readerscomp/ships/html/sh_092300_tirpitz.htm

Yup, should always check sources.

ehangar
11-01-2004, 08:23 PM
Hi rodion_zero

I would love to see all your Mistel vs Lex pics, but there're only Photobucket placeholders in your posts. Hope they come up again soon http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://www.ehangar.com/printgallery/uploadImg/print/mw2wieldingtheironhammer_big.jpg

.

rodion_zero
11-01-2004, 09:37 PM
I exceeded bandwidth LOL

Anyways you can still view them by right clicking and opening the image in a new window, I think.

-RODION

EFG_beber
11-02-2004, 02:54 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by rodion_zero:
I exceeded bandwidth LOL

Anyways you can still view them by right clicking and opening the image in a new window, I think.

-RODION <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
try this.
http://www.imageshack.us/
no bandwitch limit

KeenFox
11-02-2004, 06:35 AM
Hehe, I stand corrected.
Okey, seem I read something wrong.. I was reading about the Barracuda, and it was refering to a famuse attack on the Tripitz.
Rereading it, it never said anything about sinking the ship.. I jumped to conclusions, a lesson to us all.(I am glad I was polite about it.)

Now lets never talk about this ever again.

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

joberrick
11-02-2004, 07:55 AM
Last night I was flying with at least ten planes at the illustrious each with a 250 kg. bomb load but still couldn't sink the thing. Finally I gave my self unlimited ammo a hit it a dozen or so times barely puting a scratch in it!

Wseivelod
11-02-2004, 09:11 AM
The Illustrious is a bad example, because it was reknown for having steel plated armor on the deck- it could withstand MUCH much more then an American carrier.

Friendly_flyer
11-18-2004, 10:08 AM
The Mistel against ships:

I finally got around to test the Mistel in PF. In AEP, the Mistel would wreak havoc all around, taking out small towns, but not even dent a ship. In PF, the system seems to have changed.

After having conducted quite a few runs, I discovered that only the deck of carrier ships will trigger the payload, possibly because the game treat the deck like €œground€. If the Mistel is hitting a ship in any other part (like in the flank, right at the water line), it will simply fly right through. The wings are torn off though. I'll give the slow stern attack a try.

Too bad the Mistel doesn't work. Hunting ships wit it would have made for some very interesting missions. Bridges aren€t quite the same...