View Full Version : Average tonnage per patrol

04-22-2005, 08:30 AM
Whats you guys average tonnage per patrol?

I just wanna know if i am actually doing well or if i am actually trailing behind everyone else.

04-22-2005, 10:48 AM
So far (9/1939-10/1940) 11 patrols.
average tonnage with a VIIB around 30.000-40.000 (best 112.000). Realism 86%.

04-22-2005, 11:44 AM
VIIC, 100% realism

Avg. tonnage during Happy Times: 35,000/patrol
Avg. tonnage following 1942: 20,000

I expect the avg. tonnage to continue dropping as the war goes on.

04-22-2005, 01:49 PM
1939/early 40, (92% realism) 5 patrols avg 2 boats per!

I was sitting round about 15,000 ton when I went out on my 6th patrol, NW of Scotland on my way down to my patrol area off the SW coast of Ireland I sunk 2 boats a Coatal and a Trawler for about 2,400 tons.

I sailed on to my patrol area meeting nothing else on the way there, I did my 24hrs partol and was setting of due west to see if would come across anything, I got a radio message that a Large Convoy was close (next grid to the one I was in ) so I set off at Flank speed.

I travelled a few thousand mts, when I stopped all engines. I went to the H'Phones and listened, seemed to ne nothing there! on the 2nd sweep I thought I heard a faint noise so I turned up my speakers and move the dial away from it and back again a few times and sure enough it was a engine turning.

I went to the CTower and ordered Flank speed in the direction I picked up. After about 30mins I stopped the uboat again, and listen in, there it was loud engine sounds some slow and at least 1 fast. I went back to flank and with in about 15mins I spotted the outline of the convoy in the distance, the weather was calm no wind but some light fog. I closed to about 8000mts then dived to pscope depth.

The convoy was 20+ ships and had only 1 destroyer as an escort, it was in 4lanes with about 5/6 ships in each line. The sad thing was the 4 C3's that were on the end of each line were flying the stars and stripes and at least another 2 oil tankers did the same, the rest were british merchant navy with a british destoryer way out in front.

I close to about 1200 and fired my 1st torp at a heavy laden C2 the 2nd at another just behind it, my 3rd I fired at a tanker in the 2nd lane. The 1st 2 ships when up with a very large explosion but the 3rd either bounced off or missed its target. As the convoy started to split I sail into open water between the 1st and 2nd line of ships.

It only took a few mintues with the Destroyer came at me between the lanes of the convoy, silly git! he was on my nose "0" charging right at me, aob "0" I waited and waited, just under 700mts I fired the last of my 1st salvo of 4 front torps and dived.

I click onto the outside camera and waited I thought I had missed, but just when I thought "ah-hell" the stern of the destoryer was lifted out of the water with the expolsion and back down. He still dropped 3 dc's as he sailed on over me, but it was only light damage I came back up to PS depth and swung my scope round to 180 to see him go down stern first.

Yes, play time! I surfaced the boat and manned the deckgun ( manually) I used all my shells and sunk another 6 ships (now 8 in total in the convoy) I then sunk another 4 with my torps and turned back to get one large C2 sitting as dead as a duck in the water. I sent her to the bottom and headed home!

I just had the best patrol ever I bagged 15 ships in total. 2 on the way to my patrol grid 2300+ and sunk another 13 in the convoy 1 Destroyer and 12 Merchant ships...

I never counted the lot at the time but it must have been over 50,000 tons!

Yes you guest it, I should have jumped to base but I didn't AGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGh sunk on the way home!

End of ........

I just wanted to see what I would have got for the crew in the way of medals and so on!

I am struggling to start all over again! It took me ages to get that far, struggling through with only 2 ships a patrol, then I get a 20+ convoy and I sink there covering destroyer!

I am on a downer just now and I will have to leave it for a while , I can't face it!

04-22-2005, 01:59 PM
On an average patrol I get anywhere from 20k tons to 50k tons regardless of time period. It depends entirely on whether I can find some big ships or get stuck with just the little coastal and small merchants. If I had to guess though I'd say around 30k-40k tons. I play on 92% difficulty (free camera only).

04-22-2005, 02:18 PM
Okay, so you guys are averaging 35,000 tons per patrol, which would mean about 5 ships per patrol if they are all in the 7k range.

Historically, a U-boat capt. had 16 patrols so at your rate, you'd all sink about 80 ships for 560,000 tons.

Historical figures:

863 U-boats operational throughout the war.

25 boats attacked and at least damaged 20 or more ships.
36 boats attacked and at least damaged between 11 and 20 ships.
70 boats boats attacked and at least damaged between 6 and 10 ships.
190 boats attacked and at least damaged between 1 to 5 ships.

NOTE: These are BOATS, not CAPTS. Meaning in the life of the whole boat over MANY more than the average 16 patrols a typical Capt. got.

ALSO NOTE: These are figures for ATTACKS, not sinkings. While subs tended to sink about 67% of all ships they attacked, you'd have to take the above figures and reduce them by a third to compare to what you are doing in the game.

FINAL NOTE: 542 (63% of all operational U-Boats) never even damaged an enemy ship at all, not even during the Happy Times.

So if you are wondering if the game is a bit arcadish, well, put a quarter in the slot buddy and play again.

Even with my 20% mod, the seas are still a very target rich environment.

04-22-2005, 09:37 PM
I play on 71%. All the boring stuff off with all the fun stuff on.

I average about 50-55k per patrol.

04-22-2005, 09:56 PM
I use auto-tdc and auto-map update, and of course the free cam for fun- not to help me in an engagement, though. I get about 50K per patrol, and haven't been killed yet in about 22 patrols - mid 42 for me now.

My low tonnage total was 19K and my high was 90K.

04-22-2005, 10:23 PM
I'm taking the sim pretty slow and am only on my second patrol. So far I am still quite a ways away from my patrol grid and am sitting at over 13000. So I figure since my patrol is less then half over, I'll probably finish with around 30000 tons.

04-22-2005, 11:37 PM
I always miss http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

04-22-2005, 11:48 PM
I usually sink 60k-100k on 82% realism. This is because once you find a good place for convoys, you'll never RTB without having fired all your torpedoes again. I've only sunk over 100k once, but that included sinking a Nelson class battleship anchored in port, so it doesn't really count.

04-23-2005, 09:34 PM
I've just completed my 6th patrol with my 2nd boat and crew. I've sunk around 68k of shipping which averages out to 10k each patrol. I've yet to encounter a convoy (except a neutral one rats!). Came upon 2 tankers but they were flying the stars & stripes so left 'em alone. Encountering merchants armed with bow or stern guns which can make life interesting but generally they are lousy shots. This sim definately offers up different experiences on each patrol and the mods that are either out or on the way will keep this one alive for a long time.

04-23-2005, 10:56 PM
I generally bag about 30,000 to 40,000 as well a cpl of times 20,000 or less. This varies a lot and you can see where most shipping was routed on your grid map that was included with the game. If I'm stuck in a no shipping area I will patrol there till I complete the 24 hrs then move to better hunting grounds. I catch a lot of shipping at the south end of Ireland. I'm about half way through and have 300,000 + total tonnage. Got lucky one time and pulled a 80,000 ton patrol, just missed the 100k club. Had one string of 2 x T3 tankers, a T2 tanker, and a little itty bitty coastal merchant. Didn't understand the coast merchant since we were in grid AK I think 58. Not to much coast there for him. In fact none at all for days.

04-23-2005, 11:06 PM
If you play realistically, and I'm not just talking about Realism Settings, the Sea is not that rich an environment.

All the traditional exploits of wwii subsims are still there and they always will be.

I LMFAROFL when someone says they play at 100% Realism, then go on about how they sunk 16 ships.

Really funny stuff.

04-24-2005, 03:38 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by HeibgesU999:
If you play realistically, and I'm not just talking about Realism Settings, the Sea is not that rich an environment.

All the traditional exploits of wwii subsims are still there and they always will be.

I LMFAROFL when someone says they play at 100% Realism, then go on about how they sunk 16 ships.

Really funny stuff. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I "LMFAROFL" when somebody says they've completed 20+ patrols. How long's the sim been out?! I just completed my third patrol last night (I do use TC).

Do some of you guys carry out actual torpedo attacks at x32?? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

04-24-2005, 03:52 AM
In my Ironman career 89% with only free cam for screenshots and event camera on I've reached 495,000 tons and its only March 1941. I've yet to be seriously damaged (below 90% on the hull) and my best tonnage so far has been 76,640 tons in one patrol. I've taken to using only type 2 electrics now on impact so I actually have to fire a spread at a large ship and not just 1 to kill or cripple magnetic.

04-24-2005, 06:27 AM
I'm on my second career (after a destroyer cut my first short in late 1941) and am on my fifth patrol at 82% realism. My first 4 patrols I averaged 60,000 tons, and now it's dropped to 42,000 and looks set to get worse as lone merchants get harder to find, more merchants are armed with deck guns and more escorts are employed on convoys. Cant wait for air cover to extend out past Ireland, that'll make it even more fun.

04-24-2005, 02:13 PM
Hi all,

I'm now about to start my 25th patrol, I now have a IXB and so far sunk 608.000 tons wich averages about 25.000 tons per patrol.

My realism is at 94%, in time it's may '42 and i started of in sept. '39,

Last patrols are getting more difficult because all merchants seem to be equipped with guns wich seem to be getting more and more accurate lately, but i'll keep u guys posted!!!

04-27-2005, 04:44 PM
On my first patrol I sunk around 17k, on my second I sunk over 40k, on my third I sunk over 60k b/c of a Nelson Battleship as well as a bunch of C2's. The battleship was in Lock Euwe(I don't know if I spelled that right), and when I snuck in and attacked it it was around midnight. When I used the impact torpedoes(the ones that leave bubbles trailing), the battleship didn't move like others would. And after I hit it twice and sent the last shot, it tried firing up its engines but they quickly died(I also didn't hit the propellers). I think I literally caught them sleeping

04-27-2005, 05:00 PM
Dunno what I'm doing wrong.. On my 14th patrol (140 ktons, January 41), and I'm sinking 7000-20000 per patrol. What I do is take the shortest route possible (yesss!) to the patrol grid, patrol it in a zig-zag pattern for 24 hours, then head home the same way. Oh, and I do not sink anything with a lower displacement than 1000 tons. I feel bad for just attacking merchants.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
(Shame there are no life boats and shipwrecked people I could avoid to fire upon.)

This at 76% realism, only got auto TDC on (I'm useless at acquiring targets manually) and the camera for screenshots.

Ironically, I'm in command of U-48, the only U-boat that was in service throughout the whole war. (:

04-27-2005, 06:04 PM
I've just passed 850.000 tons 14-15 patrols 1 january 1942. 85% realism......ridicolous easy. latest patrol totally wasted a small convoy: 19 ships. 1 c2, 1 c3, 2 flower cv, 2 armed trawlers (warships sunk with 10.5 cm deckgun) the rest small and coastal merchants. approx 50.000+

04-27-2005, 08:40 PM
Well I've been patroling from `39 untill end `41. I think I have done about 23 patrols and the average is between 20t and 30t.

two thirds of the patrols was in an VIIB and the the last part in a IXB. I have expierenced that due to change of U-boat I have more long distance patrols in less intresting area's for this time period. In my VIIB had lot of patrols at the British Isl. In my IXB I have most of my patrols assigned at the west African coast (Freetown). I get my fun by sneaking near Gibraltar and stay put. Sometimes quite riskfull with the amount of planes (think I shot as much planes down with my IXB as ships with my VIIB http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif).

I've got the feeling that gameplay changes during time (enemy activity, merchant activity, torpedo duds etc)boat types and flotilla placement. A replacement to another Flotilla can be usefull.

Last comment that the figures of war time are misleading. A lot of the U-boats in early and later war time were not only front boats but training u-boats(training flotillas), resupply u-boats, mine layers, transporters and test boats. For a short period of time some were even adapted as Flak boats to trap enemy planes.

In all I think the game serves a broad scale of people, with or without some modifications. The last subsim I've played with so much fun and dedication was Aces of deep on my 486. So I wish you all "Hals und Bein bruch, und fette Beute" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif.

Kapitaen U-123
Taken out of service at Lorient, France 17 Jun 1944. Scuttled there 19 Aug 1944. Surrendered to France in 1945 and became the French submarine Blaison. Stricken 18 Aug 1959 as Q165

04-27-2005, 11:28 PM
Try out the 20/20 patch.

You'll find it's a lot harder to find and sink enemy ships. You might not even be able to lead the Aces board.


04-27-2005, 11:31 PM
Hmmmmm.....let me see.

Since I've started playing using the Beery "Real U-boat" mod, I've been on 4 patrols and have sunk 0 tonnage each time. If my math is correct, my average is 0. BEAT THAT! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

I really enjoy the real u-boat mod. I'm sure that first kill is going to be rewarding....unless, of course, it's me that gets killed. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

04-27-2005, 11:57 PM
I've just finished reading this entire thread. I would be bored to tears with this game in 2 days if I put up numbers like the ones posted.

I went on a patrol and loved http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif the fact that I didn't see or hear anything for a month, then...there it was....a contact ! Hunt...hunt...hunt......there it is....fire, miss.....fire, miss......fire, miss......fire, miss....fire, miss. Nuts !! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif Time to go home empty handed again.

Don't get me wrong, I know I'm not good but, I'm having a lot of fun with the suspense and uncertainty of the hunt. Sinking a (one) ship is going to be a real prize.

...it's beautiful.

Thank you Beery and mod team. Without this mod, SHIII would have been collecting dust on the shelf already.

04-28-2005, 12:06 AM
I have fun seeing big explosions.

To each his own though. Enjoy it Mylo http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

04-29-2005, 05:57 AM
I like explosions too as long as they aren't near me.

I have a lot of respect for the guys who have the patience to maybe only sink 1 boat per patrol especially with the mods.

I'd get too frustrated. I wanna sink things and watch them blow up and say things like "Hasta la Vista...baby". Oooops wrong movie.