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XyZspineZyX
07-16-2003, 12:58 AM
Mainly, FB+TrankIR+head mounted display.

You know, like 3D goggles, except they are actually the screens mounted to a headset.

Can you imagine the imersion?

It woul dbe like owning a full cockpit of every plane flyable in Il-2.

I've seen high-resolution ones at vid arcades/amusement parks, that kind of thing.

This would totally rock.



So my question is this: are there consumer HMD's available that won't suck and won't cost 8 billion dollers? (head mounted displays . . not sure if that is the 'correct' termenology)

XyZspineZyX
07-16-2003, 12:58 AM
Mainly, FB+TrankIR+head mounted display.

You know, like 3D goggles, except they are actually the screens mounted to a headset.

Can you imagine the imersion?

It woul dbe like owning a full cockpit of every plane flyable in Il-2.

I've seen high-resolution ones at vid arcades/amusement parks, that kind of thing.

This would totally rock.



So my question is this: are there consumer HMD's available that won't suck and won't cost 8 billion dollers? (head mounted displays . . not sure if that is the 'correct' termenology)

XyZspineZyX
07-16-2003, 02:24 AM
I tried this setup at the Flight Sim exhibition that Oleg addressed last year. The frame rate was absolutely awful - a real slide show. I assumed they'd configured it badly, but if so it was pretty dire piece of marketing!

XyZspineZyX
07-16-2003, 02:26 AM
would you need trackIR with a VR headset ???

i would have thought head tracking was built in

XyZspineZyX
07-16-2003, 04:48 AM
I think with the VR Headset you need "GYRO IR" /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif



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adlabs6
07-16-2003, 05:14 AM
I guess such a thing could work. If you bought some of these Sony's for $499:

http://www.gamesfirst.com/articles/shawn/glasstron/glasstronsmall.gif

http://www.gamesfirst.com/articles/shawn/glasstron/glasstron.htm

I guess sticking the TrackIR dot to them would work just as well, and then sit in front of the IR unit. Still, these are for NTSC signals, getting a video headset that has a native PC resolution, I don't know about.

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XyZspineZyX
07-16-2003, 05:36 AM
As I understand it.

TrackIR users move their head in small movements to move their viewpoint all the way back to 6 o'clock. The camera ceases to track once it loses sight of the dot on your head.

So! If you had Glasstrons like Adlabs posted, you'd either:

1) motion sickness in a minute or so when the view in the goggles doesn't equate to your head movement range; or
2) have a limited range of view due to the TrackIR's range.

That's why true VR setups are equiped with inbuilt motion/attitude sensors.


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XyZspineZyX
07-16-2003, 05:57 AM
You know, a 21 inch monitor is all the immersion I'll need, or can afford.

Now, this track IR thing, is that the thing were you mount a robot head looking thing on top of your monitor and stick a white dot on your forehead?

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XyZspineZyX
07-16-2003, 06:39 AM
usually several white dots and usually on your mike boom or baseball cap or 3D glasses cos if you stick em on your forehead you will run out of dots pretty quick .. but yeah thats the one

XyZspineZyX
07-16-2003, 08:20 AM
I remember that ef2000 provided support for VR glasses and I heard that it was VERY immersive but made you movement sick very fast. Anyway the goggles were at VGA resolution and the game was smooth.

adlabs6
07-16-2003, 07:08 PM
I own an older LCD visor, bought it around 8 years ago, paid like $30 at a closeout. It only has like 240x140 resolution. I'd hook the visor to my PC and test it with cam2pan, but my GF4 only has S-video out, visor only has composite in. Plus I'd have to reassemble the LCD visor, which I took apart for a LCD projector project years back.

I never thought of the motion sickness, and yes, it did happen with that visor I have. I had forgotten about the fact that after I'd take it off, I had a headache for an hour afterwards.

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XyZspineZyX
07-16-2003, 07:29 PM
WTE_Galway wrote:
- usually several white dots and usually on your mike
- boom or baseball cap or 3D glasses cos if you stick
- em on your forehead you will run out of dots pretty
- quick .. but yeah thats the one



I use an infra-red LED in place of the dots.

It's much better and it never runs out./i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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