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LLv34_Stafroty
03-23-2005, 10:51 AM
go whine and bark on allied side discussions about plane bugs and other issues like does many allies side leaned ppl do at Lw side discussions? just look how blutarski, tagert and what soever comes in FW, mg151/20 cannon, 109 etc thread to bash their mouths. Just looked at "Latest consensus on hellcat FM?" thread, there isnt any LW side boys name calling etc whining about their issues. seems like lw side knows how to behave, let em tell their opinions about the issue and thats it. while some di*kheads come on lw side threasds. should we start to do the same???

jurinko
03-23-2005, 11:05 AM
no, we should not start the same.

sikira_SG
03-23-2005, 11:18 AM
No for 3 reasons:

1.We dont want thoothless targetdrones
2.We are not affraid off properly modeled allied
planes,we actually like the challange.
3.We are not lame spammers like some nonamed
caracters,that are affraid sissys.

Cheers
JV44Sikira.

Sig.Hirsch
03-23-2005, 11:25 AM
Stafroty , bear in mind that more than 90% of the people here are kids and know nothing about aviation , they come here just to repeat what they saw elsewhere or to bring their propaganda .

The Russians won the war , and i appreciate their attitude on this forum that i almost stopped to read since a long time , at least they behave like adults , Privet guys .

Don't pay attention Stafroty http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

JG53Frankyboy
03-23-2005, 12:06 PM
and few LW "boys" are interested in the Pacific - actually if they have to fly japanese !
so, they dont care the FM of a Hellcat - make a P47, P51 ore Spitfire topic out of it , it look would change rapidly http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

lrrp22
03-23-2005, 12:28 PM
Thanks Frankyboy- it's nice to see a balanced opinion. For some here to claim that Luftwaffe fans don't flock to Mustang/Spitfire/.50 cal/etc. threads is simply laughable.

Both sides tend to readily jump into each other's topics. If they didn't, how could we ever hope to get a balanced view? Although the extremists from both sides tend to quickly degrade the discussion.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JG53Frankyboy:
and few LW "boys" are interested in the Pacific - actually if they have to fly japanese !
so, they dont care the FM of a Hellcat - make a P47, P51 ore Spitfire topic out of it , it look would change rapidly http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

p1ngu666
03-23-2005, 01:12 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by lrrp22:
Thanks Frankyboy- it's nice to see a balanced opinion. For some here to claim that Luftwaffe fans don't flock to Mustang/Spitfire/.50 cal/etc. threads is simply laughable.

Both sides tend to readily jump into each other's topics. If they didn't, how could we ever hope to get a balanced view? Although the extremists from both sides tend to quickly degrade the discussion.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JG53Frankyboy:
and few LW "boys" are interested in the Pacific - actually if they have to fly japanese !
so, they dont care the FM of a Hellcat - make a P47, P51 ore Spitfire topic out of it , it look would change rapidly http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

yep i agree with u guys http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif, there are ppl like me and icefire, badsight,leadspitter, who fly all planes http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

i also think if u fly only 1 plane or side, u will get paranoid http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

faustnik
03-23-2005, 01:21 PM
Most well thought out posts asking about a possible issue with a LW plane don't attract a lot of "you're a Luftwhiner" replies. The "Oleg is biased, LW planes are porked" posts get a lot of negative replies. So, maybe its just a case of garbage in, garbage out.

HayateAce
03-23-2005, 01:53 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LLv34_Stafroty:
some stuff <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

And this post is in ORR....why?

Do you have a track to post or something?

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LLv34_Stafroty
03-23-2005, 02:07 PM
Hayatehater, yea, i had a track of it but i lost it as like you lost your brains.

JG5_UnKle
03-23-2005, 02:42 PM
Oh lordy http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Stanger_361st
03-23-2005, 02:54 PM
http://home.carolina.rr.com/squad/AwJ.jpg

whitetornado_1
03-23-2005, 03:14 PM
I like Faustnik's reply the most. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

carguy_
03-23-2005, 03:18 PM
Maybe because allied side sh!theads like to spam down the drain every single FAIR LW bugs thread.Those threads that are legitimate I leave alone.

I do not care of what type are those people.
But I`d like to see any post not contributing to a discussion deleted.

Blutarski2004
03-23-2005, 04:23 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LLv34_Stafroty:
go whine and bark on allied side discussions about plane bugs and other issues like does many allies side leaned ppl do at Lw side discussions? just look how blutarski, tagert and what soever comes in FW, mg151/20 cannon, 109 etc thread to bash their mouths. Just looked at "Latest consensus on hellcat FM?" thread, there isnt any LW side boys name calling etc whining about their issues. seems like lw side knows how to behave, let em tell their opinions about the issue and thats it. while some di*kheads come on lw side threasds. should we start to do the same??? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


..... Thank you for mentioning my name, Stafroty. I've written a zillion posts in support of FW cockpit visibility, FW forward view, improving 151/20 effect, MGeschoss. Maybe you missed those posts.

If you had the slightest clue, you might possibly be useful to this community. I look forward to that day.

VW-IceFire
03-23-2005, 05:22 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by p1ngu666:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by lrrp22:
Thanks Frankyboy- it's nice to see a balanced opinion. For some here to claim that Luftwaffe fans don't flock to Mustang/Spitfire/.50 cal/etc. threads is simply laughable.

Both sides tend to readily jump into each other's topics. If they didn't, how could we ever hope to get a balanced view? Although the extremists from both sides tend to quickly degrade the discussion.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JG53Frankyboy:
and few LW "boys" are interested in the Pacific - actually if they have to fly japanese !
so, they dont care the FM of a Hellcat - make a P47, P51 ore Spitfire topic out of it , it look would change rapidly http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

yep i agree with u guys http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif, there are ppl like me and icefire, badsight,leadspitter, who fly all planes http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

i also think if u fly only 1 plane or side, u will get paranoid http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
So right Pingu. I do not understand at all the people who only fly one plane or only one side. There's a 140 someodd flyable aircraft. As far as I know, I have flown all of them, in every variation and subversion available.

I will argue for the historical correction of any plane. It should be as accurate as possible to simulate history. It can't be perfect but it can be good.

p1ngu666
03-23-2005, 05:27 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by p1ngu666:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by lrrp22:
Thanks Frankyboy- it's nice to see a balanced opinion. For some here to claim that Luftwaffe fans don't flock to Mustang/Spitfire/.50 cal/etc. threads is simply laughable.

Both sides tend to readily jump into each other's topics. If they didn't, how could we ever hope to get a balanced view? Although the extremists from both sides tend to quickly degrade the discussion.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JG53Frankyboy:
and few LW "boys" are interested in the Pacific - actually if they have to fly japanese !
so, they dont care the FM of a Hellcat - make a P47, P51 ore Spitfire topic out of it , it look would change rapidly http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

yep i agree with u guys http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif, there are ppl like me and icefire, badsight,leadspitter, who fly all planes http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

i also think if u fly only 1 plane or side, u will get paranoid http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
So right Pingu. I do not understand at all the people who only fly one plane or only one side. There's a 140 someodd flyable aircraft. As far as I know, I have flown all of them, in every variation and subversion available.

I will argue for the historical correction of any plane. It should be as accurate as possible to simulate history. It can't be perfect but it can be good. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

TX-Zen
03-23-2005, 06:34 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sikira_SG:
No for 3 reasons:

1.We dont want thoothless targetdrones
2.We are not affraid off properly modeled allied
planes,we actually like the challange.
3.We are not lame spammers like some nonamed
caracters,that are affraid sissys.

Cheers
JV44Sikira. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Well said Sikira http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I'd like to add that whining is useless and the only thing that I have seen it create is a rather hostile and divisive forum where its often more important to stroke one's ego than to have a more accurate sim.

JG54_Arnie
03-24-2005, 02:18 AM
Maybe we should set a rule from now on, that anyone engaging in a topic about complaints or issues with a certain plane must have flown it first. Its quite obvious we're getting a little tired of people flying one plane only and then complaining about planes they fly against. If they would actually fly that plane themselves first they would:
- learn more about how to counter it and its weaknesses.
- find out that when they were blown out of the sky, it must have been a very good pilot, cause they cant make the plane do similar moves.
- find that there are actually other good planes out there besides their exclusive ride.
- become a better pilot themselves.
- be able to find out if the problem discussed is really there.

TAGERT.
03-24-2005, 08:56 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LLv34_Stafroty:
go whine and bark on allied side discussions about plane bugs and other issues like does many allies side leaned ppl do at Lw side discussions? just look how blutarski, tagert and what soever comes in FW, mg151/20 cannon, 109 etc thread to bash their mouths. Just looked at "Latest consensus on hellcat FM?" thread, there isnt any LW side boys name calling etc whining about their issues. seems like lw side knows how to behave, let em tell their opinions about the issue and thats it. while some di*kheads come on lw side threasds. should we start to do the same??? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>What a self serving trolling tard that can not tell the difference from a discussion and a troll topic.

p1ngu666
03-24-2005, 09:36 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JG54_Arnie:
Maybe we should set a rule from now on, that anyone engaging in a topic about complaints or issues with a certain plane must have flown it first. Its quite obvious we're getting a little tired of people flying one plane only and then complaining about planes they fly against. If they would actually fly that plane themselves first they would:
- learn more about how to counter it and its weaknesses.
- find out that when they were blown out of the sky, it must have been a very good pilot, cause they cant make the plane do similar moves.
- find that there are actually other good planes out there besides their exclusive ride.
- become a better pilot themselves.
- be able to find out if the problem discussed is really there. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

yes.
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JG5_UnKle
03-24-2005, 10:09 AM
Yes Flying "Aggressor" is always worthwhile training. After a match we always ask to swap planes http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Funny how few allied squads take us up on it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

WTE_Gog
03-24-2005, 11:11 AM
Holy Cow Batman! And I thought I was a little heavy handed here! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif I got nothing on you guys!!

I can see the point about whining for missing aircraft or long overdue and promised features but I can't see the point in getting all wrapped up in what 'you' think is a fault with a particular aircraft, unless of course it was a glaring error that made it a useless piece of crapola.
The endless posts on things like,

'The seat in the Fw190 is too hard!'

'Roll rate on P-38 is 1/32 of an inch per second too slow', etc etc are mystifying. Where do these people get all their aircraft knowledge? Sure as heck they didn't fly the real thing.
Just fly the planes, warts and all, and if they have little quirks then it just makes them more of a challenge and the kills you get in them more satisfying.

Nubarus
03-24-2005, 02:35 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LLv34_Stafroty:
go whine and bark on allied side discussions about plane bugs and other issues like does many allies side leaned ppl do at Lw side discussions? just look how blutarski, tagert and what soever comes in FW, mg151/20 cannon, 109 etc thread to bash their mouths. Just looked at "Latest consensus on hellcat FM?" thread, there isnt any LW side boys name calling etc whining about their issues. seems like lw side knows how to behave, let em tell their opinions about the issue and thats it. while some di*kheads come on lw side threasds. should we start to do the same??? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think you should do a little more research before posting **** like this since there are plenty of LW fanboys crapping in Allied plane questions and bugs threads.

The usual reply from them is mostly: "Our planes are porked more then yours so shut your pie hole" kinda attitude.

But I guess you missed those before going on your "Look how inocent we LW fans are" crusade.

Nubarus
03-24-2005, 02:46 PM
And btw Stafroty, I also noticed that the majority of your threads in the ORR should not even be here but in the GD forum with all the other GD threads.

Or do you think you are someone special that can open chitty chat topics in the ORR?

Did you miss this thread Stafroty?

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=63110913&m=3721028592