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XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 02:34 AM
I remember i saw a development update with a V1buzzbomb on it. whats the deal with it?

XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 02:34 AM
I remember i saw a development update with a V1buzzbomb on it. whats the deal with it?

XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 02:35 AM
Still in the works,I guess....

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JerseyD
09-24-2003, 04:34 PM
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XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 06:22 PM
Will it be flyable? /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 06:43 PM
Latro wrote:
- Will it be flyable? /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
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I don't think so, not enough info on the cockpit /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif


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XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 08:41 PM
Fly a bomb? Thats an interesting though although actually the first prototype was piloted. However after that they had no pilots I imagine if included they would be for AI only.

On another note they would be a pointless addition. They never fired them at the Russians to my knowledge. That and you can't exactly shoot one down in a fighter. It's a friggin flying pulse jet. You'd have to be right on top of them, and be good before it flew away.
The british used flak to take them out as I've watched actual war footage of them doing so. It's low altitude, and the fact you could hear it before you ever saw it as pulse jets are incredibly loud. Gave the flak gunners plenty of warning to get dialed in before it reached their position. Plus it flew perfectly straight and level which made it even easier to hit.

XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 08:59 PM
Actually, you could shoot them down, and if you got close enough, you could nudge it off course with your wings.. Hurricanes, I believe, were assigned this job.

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XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 09:04 PM
Boosher-PBNA wrote:
- Actually, you could shoot them down, and if you got
- close enough, you could nudge it off course with
- your wings.. Hurricanes, I believe, were assigned
- this job.
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I have read that Tempests, Spitfires and Mosquitos all shot down V-1's. I think some Gloster Meteors also shot some down. Never heard of a Hurricane getting one.

XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 09:16 PM
Found these V-1 claims:

Types of aircraft and number of V1's shot down
Hawker TempestV 638
Mosquitoes 428
Spitfire X1V's 303
Mustangs 232
Typhoons/Spitfire V, 1X & X11 158

Meteors 13


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XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 12:16 AM
sorry, that's the History Channel in me talking. They keep saying Hurris did it.

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XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 12:16 AM
it will be a V1 not flyalbe jeez who would want to fly one lol

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Bearcat101
09-25-2003, 12:50 AM
The training variants had cockpits.

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XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 03:48 AM
Whats a V1?
Can someone post a pic please?

XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 07:02 AM
Training variants? Why would a pilot train in a flying bomb?

I can see fighters shooting one down. I doubt it took much, but I dunno about the nudging them off course thing. They were electronically guided, and would have corrected.
Range was simply set by fuel load.

The british had radar so if fighters were to intercept they would have plenty of time.

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09-25-2003, 07:18 AM
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XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 11:29 AM
Hopperfly22, in fact V1 Flying Bombs could be made to nudge of course. What happened was that an aircraft would fly so close alongside that the airflow would disturb the buzz bomb's gyros and sent it out of control. This happened several times.

In regards to a piloted V1, this would be impossible given that it was a pilotless bomb controlled by a simple gyro system.

On a side note however, there are some, often contradictory, accounts of an obscure plan to produce a piloted V1. The idea was for pilots to point their aircraft at a ground target and bail out. In May 1944, SS Hauptsturmfuehrer Otto Skorzeny, proposed using the V-1 for this job. Within two weeks, prototypes of variants of the manned weapon, known as "Reichenberg", were built, with designations "R-I" through "R-IV".

The R-I and R-II were glider trainers and lacked engines. The R-I was a single-seat trainer, while the R-II was a two-seat trainer with dual cockpits. The R-III was a two-seat powered trainer, while the R-IV was the operational weapon. About 175 R-IVs were built, and a group of volunteers was organized to fly them.

The piloted flying bombs were to be launched by bombers of "KG-200", the Luftwaffe special operations unit.

Unusually, the weapon would have lacked an ejection seat, and though provisions were made for escape, getting out of such an aircraft safely as it dived at high speed towards a target would have been risky. Perhapse aptly, the pilots who would have flown such craft were called "Selbstopfermaenner" (Suicide Men)".

In October 1944, a new commander named Werner Baumbach was appointed to KG-200 and the idea was abandoned (with nothing comming of it).

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09-25-2003, 12:44 PM
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fluke39
09-25-2003, 12:58 PM
Hopperfly22 wrote:

- I can see fighters shooting one down. I doubt it
- took much, but I dunno about the nudging them off
- course thing. They were electronically guided, and
- would have corrected.

fighters would fly alongside, place their wingtip under the bombs wing tip then flick their wing up thus throwing the bomb totally off course and upsetting the simple gyro system which guided it - the bomb would then come hurtling to earth.

similarly a near hit with a flak gun could upset the gyro sending it to the ground too.

of course this was usually done in more *remote* areas

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XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 01:12 PM
Whoa, they MUST have worn earplugs, sitting so close to the turbine.... phew!!!

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XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 02:06 PM
Boosher-PBNA wrote:
- Actually, you could shoot them down, and if you got
- close enough, you could nudge it off course with
- your wings.. Hurricanes, I believe, were assigned
- this job.

Hurricane? No, not really. AFAIK the preffered weapon for this was Tempest as well as fast Spitfires (Mk.XIV for example).

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XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 02:12 PM
wing tiping was the brave method wasnt it?/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 05:01 PM
It was the Hawker Tempest, Hurricanes werent fast enough to intercept!