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FE_pilot
08-27-2007, 02:47 PM
I was flying the YP-80 against 3 Arado-234 bombers in QMB, when this happened after my fist attack on the lead bomber.

On final:
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s45/emiljan-1991/il2fb2007-08-2716-39-53-43.jpg

Checking Out the Damage:
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s45/emiljan-1991/il2fb2007-08-2716-40-42-76.jpg

Damage:
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s45/emiljan-1991/il2fb2007-08-2716-40-48-45.jpg


If this has happened to anyone else please share your story.

ImMoreBetter
08-27-2007, 02:50 PM
...

Now I know what I'll be doing tonight.

Skunk_438RCAF
08-27-2007, 04:14 PM
Could you still fire guns?

VW-IceFire
08-27-2007, 04:38 PM
Happened to me many times. Usually a MK108 in the nose or a crash landing will do it but random other things will cause it.

All guns are jammed when this damage is sustained.

DKoor
08-27-2007, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
Happened to me many times. Usually a MK108 in the nose or a crash landing will do it but random other things will cause it.

All guns are jammed when this damage is sustained. +1

FE_pilot
08-27-2007, 05:10 PM
This happened when i caught the golden BB from the rear 20mm cannons of the Arado. It was strange because i did not realize what had happened until i played the .ntrk from external view. When it happens it doesn't give you a message that says machine guns jammed, they just stop firing and a message saying guns are out of ammo appears every time you pull the trigger.

The performance of the airplane is not affected in anyway as for as i can tell either.

AVG_WarHawk
08-27-2007, 06:19 PM
Hey! It has a "black box". Thought those were introduced about 15 yrs. later http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/touche.gif

leitmotiv
08-27-2007, 07:53 PM
Pretty ridiculous. I bet the real aircraft would have the aerodynamic characteristics of a kitty box after that. Not to mention the huge number of pieces which would go right into the intakes. Losing all that weight in the nose should have sent your trim haywire---at the very least.

ake109
08-27-2007, 07:58 PM
Originally posted by FE_pilot:
When it happens it doesn't give you a message that says machine guns jammed, they just stop firing and a message saying guns are out of ammo appears every time you pull the trigger.
.

That is probably somewhat accurate, your guns did not jam, the ammo boxes just fell off.

Its like when massive damage removes the whole rear end of the plane and the forward fuselage with pilot is spinning downwards, you don't get a 'fuel tank leak' message but the engine might say 'out of fuel'.

Waldo.Pepper
08-27-2007, 08:55 PM
Pretty ridiculous.

Not too far fetched actually.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/WaldoPepper/bomber%20damage/PagesfromGunCameraWorldWar.II.jpg

FliegerAas
08-27-2007, 11:13 PM
But I'm pretty sure the FM of that bomber was affected by the missing nose. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

Besides that, a small jet is much lighter and faster and would have more problems when the nose is missing.

leitmotiv
08-28-2007, 02:21 AM
Exactly. Not only that, the jet has lost the enormous weight of six .50 cal. machine guns and their ammunition. Another matter, had the nose been blown off the ammunition would likely have caused a secondary explosion. As noted earlier, any blast which removed the whole nose would have sent fragments into the air intakes and destroyed the turbine. This is an error. Should be fatal damage for the airplane. That the pilot was able to have a routine landing was a joke---trim should have been impossible to adjust after such a loss of forward weight.

ploughman
08-28-2007, 03:11 AM
Happened to me. Can't remember the story but I think it involved a face full of Me-262.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/mctomney/yp80noseless.jpg

You can shoot the face off the Fw-200 and the C-47 too.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/mctomney/condor.jpg

Xiolablu3
08-28-2007, 03:17 AM
Lol I once lost my nose on a Do335.

Lost the front prop and the pilot was in view exactly the same way.

EXCEPT, the plane flew around perfectly using just the rear prop.

Gibbage1
08-28-2007, 01:09 PM
This sort of damage was modeled more as a joke. You can do the same thing on many aircraft, including the He-111. Also a lot of aircraft can have there engines blown clean off from the front and still fly around just fine. BTW, those two boxes are in the real P-80. One is the radio, but I cant remember what the upper box was.

I also modeled the tail comming off, exposing the engine. I dont know if it made it into the game or not.

Daiichidoku
08-28-2007, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by Gibbage1:
This sort of damage was modeled more as a joke. You can do the same thing on many aircraft, including the He-111. Also a lot of aircraft can have there engines blown clean off from the front and still fly around just fine. BTW, those two boxes are in the real P-80. One is the radio, but I cant remember what the upper box was.

I also modeled the tail comming off, exposing the engine. I dont know if it made it into the game or not.

it did

looks like engine change time http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

BaronUnderpants
08-28-2007, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by Gibbage1:
This sort of damage was modeled more as a joke. You can do the same thing on many aircraft, including the He-111. Also a lot of aircraft can have there engines blown clean off from the front and still fly around just fine. BTW, those two boxes are in the real P-80. One is the radio, but I cant remember what the upper box was.

I also modeled the tail comming off, exposing the engine. I dont know if it made it into the game or not.


Think iv seen that a couple of times, one can see a long dark tube....engine nozzle i guess.

ploughman
08-28-2007, 02:35 PM
Originally posted by Gibbage1:

I also modeled the tail comming off, exposing the engine. I dont know if it made it into the game or not.

It did, you're just left with the exhaust pipe at the back of the jet. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

stalkervision
08-28-2007, 02:36 PM
My planes never ever get damaged in cool ways.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Retrofish
08-28-2007, 02:57 PM
I was strafing some friendly B-24's that had just landed (as you do), and came a bit too "close" to one of them. To my surprise the only damage to my A-20 was that the ventral gun was ripped off.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a127/retrofish/a20.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a127/retrofish/a201.jpg


Realistic or not, it's a lot more realistic than in most other sims where if you hit something even at a snails pace you blow up instantly.

ImMoreBetter
08-28-2007, 03:03 PM
I was flying a P-63 when a collision took off my vertical stabilizer.

I couldn't use the rudder in the air, but when I landed I could taxi just fine. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

ElAurens
08-28-2007, 04:18 PM
The nose wheel of all aircraft that have them are modeled as if they are steerable, even if they should be just a gimbaled installation, as in the P39/P63.

PBNA-Boosher
08-28-2007, 05:05 PM
To be perfectly honest, it's an exploit. Whenever I'm attacking bombers in a YP-80 and run out of ammo, I know I can ram an enemy's wing with my nose and still keep flying. I'll record a track if anyone wants to see it.

stalkervision
08-28-2007, 05:29 PM
Originally posted by PBNA-Boosher:
To be perfectly honest, it's an exploit. Whenever I'm attacking bombers in a YP-80 and run out of ammo, I know I can ram an enemy's wing with my nose and still keep flying. I'll record a track if anyone wants to see it.

Please do.... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

could you try lowering your gear and either landing on a bomber or giving it a good bashing with your gear while your at it..?

That I would just love to see scrennies of.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif

Heliopause
08-31-2007, 01:34 AM
This reminded me of a B1 damage model I survived:

Checking controls, they still work. Even the engine if needed.
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b334/PauseHelio/BI-FA.2.jpg

Landing: flaps and gear ok!

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b334/PauseHelio/BI-FA.4.jpg