PDA

View Full Version : Revi reticle is OK in game



Lurch1962
03-19-2007, 04:39 PM
A question by Tipo_man a short while ago got me to thinking...

I didn't know what the angular diameter of the Luftwaffe's Revi gun sight reticle was, and indeed mistakenly assumed its size to be measured in Gradians. Well, in another post a link was supplied to a Finnish web site which had a translation (in Finnish http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif ) of a German gunnery manual circa WWII. I saw there that the reticle's circle was 1/10 radian in diameter.

So I decided to verify this in Il-2. The image below is a 1600x1200 screen capture which hasn't been re-touched--only cropped and JPG'd. To the limits of measurement accuracy, the reticle's circle is spot on...

EDIT: I've been trying to get the link to my image at Google to work here, but it seems to be constructed in such a way as to require viewing through their web site. I'll have to keep trying, I guess...

In the meantime, Bearcat has kindly offered a work-around:

http://star.walagata.com/w/bearcat/Revi_100mils.jpg
Is the Luftwaffe's WWII Revi gun sight modeled correctly in the flight simulator IL-2? As can be seen here, yes! The real thing had a circular reticle of diameter 1/10 radian, or 5.71 degrees or 100 mils. Therefore a plane whose wingspan just fit within this circle was necessarily at a distance of 10 times its wingspan.

......... here ya go Lurch... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
......... thanks, Bearcat!... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif


And check out the other couple of IL-2 images (captioned) as well, at the link below. I may make a separate post regarding their content later...

http://picasaweb.google.com/Lurch1962/Il2

--Lurch--

VW-IceFire
03-19-2007, 04:44 PM
You need to put that image on a server somewhere. We can't access your G drive on a local computer.

Back in the 1.22 version days the reticle was much smaller and I believe the development team made a similar error. I think some other games have as well. The bigger reticle is apparently the more accurate one...it certainly makes sense in terms of deflection shooting.

Lurch1962
03-19-2007, 04:46 PM
Ice-Fire,
I Just realized that, after the second attempt!! This is the first time trying to post an image. I'll see what I can do, but the prospects don't look promising at the moment.

--Lurch--

VW-IceFire
03-19-2007, 05:58 PM
If you've got a Google account you can just put your image up there. Or Flikr or whatever image site people are using in droves these days.